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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32872223 United States 01/24/2013 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's the same old shit fraught with the same old problems of hoarding, usury and eventually corruption. if you're going to reinvent money, reinvent the system of money. Study on what currency Demurrage is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32390079 not when it's digital, and held together with mathematics that are loosely distributed across all users of the currency. bitcoins, as an infrastructure, have simplistic costs: electricity, which results in computing power. but even that is largely irrelevant: bitcoin leverages existing network infrastructure. only the people who want to add to this currency (mine coins), have to calculate the cost of additional computing power into it. It's vapor What happens if electricity goes down. How are you supposed to whip out your bitcoin digital wallet if you can't get a connection? If it's digital, it could disappear in the blink of an eye. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1521246 United States 01/24/2013 02:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not commonly used for buying peanuts and popcorn; can globally buy euros, us dollars, yen, gold and is crypto-secure that is what matters. Also there is nothing stopping anyone from using them for absolutely everything. Using my cell phone or computer by simply having the wallet code of the seller, like paypal uses email, I can send and verify payment to the seller in seconds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1521246 United States 01/24/2013 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing happens to them they are stored at thousands of nodes in the cloud and archived in the block chain, transactions can be done with a simple cell phone. What happens to the credit card networks when the power goes out? A lot worse. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32098210 Belgium 01/24/2013 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's vapor Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32872223 What happens if electricity goes down. How are you supposed to whip out your bitcoin digital wallet if you can't get a connection? If it's digital, it could disappear in the blink of an eye. which is no different that your savings in the bank, which you access through debet and credit cards. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33374537 Argentina 02/08/2013 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think.. bitcoins are more revolutionaty than a civil war, and will do far more damage to TPTB who are fucking with our lives than any armed resistance. p.s. they know it too. down here most bitcoiners stay hidden and quite and do not want other to know that they use it because it is quickly becoming the alternative currency answer to failing economies... and people fear that certain gubments will not hesitate to take them, and their users, outof circulation if they get too popular (especially people that remember what living in a tyranical police state is really like) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33374537 Argentina 02/08/2013 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's vapor Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32872223 What happens if electricity goes down. How are you supposed to whip out your bitcoin digital wallet if you can't get a connection? If it's digital, it could disappear in the blink of an eye. which is no different that your savings in the bank, which you access through debet and credit cards. actually, they come in coin version as well |
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Keep2theCode User ID: 20545539 United States 02/09/2013 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I set up a BC wallet just to have one and know how to get it. It wasn't exactly easy or intuitive, or clear about what to do first. I had to get a Dwolla account in order to send dollars to the BC exchange I chose, so there's two accounts plus my wallet. Then you have to wait for validation, which for Dwolla can take weeks. I had trouble with the "key" and couldn't use the 2nd level login, so it's a little less secure than I'd like. But... Most of the complexity in setup is because other currencies are involved. If the day came when there was nothing but BC, it would be fairly simple especially compared to having a typical online banking account, PayPal, and credit card. What I think most people don't understand about money is that you have to have a medium of exchange. Barter only works in small quantities for small groups of people locally, because you may wind up having to make eight trades just to get one thing you wanted. A medium of exchange is simply an agreed-upon store of "value" that is easy to carry or transfer. And there is no way to avoid hoarding; just as you can store up grain or tools, so also you can store up "value units" or money. What BC has over other media of exchange is that it is transferable over distance without banks or governments, cannot be shut down unless life as we know it has ceased and nothing matters anyway, and is a universal store of value determined by everyone who uses it. Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16) |
Xerces User ID: 33518993 United States 02/09/2013 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432 Maybe for now, but just wait until all the capital controls come down and massive sales taxes for anything on line. Bit coin or another alternative system like it will act as the blood for the black market system. Black market meaning even a damn loaf of bread mate. . I would use another word other than black market. I would say "alternative" market as that is exactly what it is. It's as black of a market as you can get. Why pussyfoot around the wording? "A black market or underground economy is the market in which illegal goods are traded". While this is true, we also see legal goods being purchased with bitcoins all the time. I think I was just trying to point out that the term black market tends to shadow the good intentions of the currency itself. People buy and sell illegal items all the time with USD all the time... it just doesn't fit the criteria of underground Silk Road anyone? "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33568463 Belgium 02/09/2013 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had trouble with the "key" and couldn't use the 2nd level login, so it's a little less secure than I'd like. Quoting: Keep2theCode you can not have "trouble with the key"; either the key corresponds, or not. it is basic math. how you store, acess, use and secure your keys, is of course entirely your own problem. |
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Keep2theCode User ID: 20545539 United States 02/09/2013 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had trouble with the "key" and couldn't use the 2nd level login, so it's a little less secure than I'd like. Quoting: Keep2theCode you can not have "trouble with the key"; either the key corresponds, or not. it is basic math. how you store, acess, use and secure your keys, is of course entirely your own problem. The key I'm referring to is a little USB stick with a "touch" spot on it that's supposed to present one key for one short touch and a second key for a longer-held touch. The second one never worked; it was a hardware problem and not worth shipping the little USB stick back for. Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35092908 United Kingdom 02/24/2013 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make it a currency in it's own right outside of the influence of the economy, then it may have some interest. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 20053617 United States 02/24/2013 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin is bought with regular money or credits. This is just a means to end paper money and make money credit only, electronic money, just what the self chosen elite want. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35092908 Make it a currency in it's own right outside of the influence of the economy, then it may have some interest. That is not the only way. You can be a bitcoin miner. look it up. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 20053617 United States 02/24/2013 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin is bought with regular money or credits. This is just a means to end paper money and make money credit only, electronic money, just what the self chosen elite want. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35092908 Make it a currency in it's own right outside of the influence of the economy, then it may have some interest. That is not the only way. You can be a bitcoin miner. look it up. also it is decentralized which OPPOSITE ofwhat the elite want |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35416865 United States 03/05/2013 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the wake of the economic turmoil that we've been seeing throughout the years it begs to wonder why we still stay centralized on anything that includes the masses. Quoting: Nyarlathotep Bitcoins Hit Peak As Real Currencies Flounder [link to www.iexpats.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1403333 United Kingdom 03/05/2013 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like all investments its a risk, I had 22btc before xmas which i spent on the road, if i'd kept them I'd have tripled my money. I treat them the same as silver, worth having a few dozen for an emergency, and with the way the market is you can always make a few quid by selling them on ebay in 0.1 or 0.25 increments, and buying as the price moves, it moves up and down throughout the day too. |
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