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Nicotine, DHEA, brain and fat metabolism and ageing

 
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Smokers have substantially higher serum levels of dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA), its sulfate (DHEAS) and androstenedione (Hautanen et al., 1993; Field et al., 1994; Baron et al., 1995; al'Absi et al., 2003). There is also extensive evidence that cigarette smoking acutely increases circulating cortisol levels (Winternitz & Quillen, 1977; Wilkins et al., 1982; Seyler et al., 1984).
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Individuals of low DHEA would seek drugs that increase DHEA. Schizophrenics would be more prone to have significantly low DHEA. It is known that nicotine significantly increases the reserve form of DHEA, DHEA sulfate. DHEA is made from DHEAS.
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Fat Loss Supplements Update DHEA, Nicotine and Usnic Acid
DHEA Cuts Abdominal Fat
DHEA is a naturally occurring steroid hormone produced by the adrenal glands.
Before being secreted into the blood, most of the DHEA is sulfated to form dehydroepiandosterone sulfate (DHEAS), which is the dominant steroid in the blood in most mammals, including humans. As illustrated in Figure 1, the levels of DHEAS in men and women decline as they get older.
Fifty-six elderly men and women (aged 65-78 years) with age-related decreases in DHEA-levels
participated in this randomized, double-blind, placebo controlled trial.
Results indicated that DHEA supplementation compared with placebo induced
significant decreases in abdominal fat (-13 cm2 versus +3 cm2) and subcutaneous fat (-13 cm2 versus +2 cm2). DHEA also improved insulin sensitivity and increased blood levels of insulin-like growth factor (IGF-1). According to the authors, “These findings provide evidence that DHEA replacement therapy may partially reverse the aging-related accumulation of abdominal fat in elderly people with low [blood] levels of DHEAS… Large studies, however, will be needed to verify our findings.”
Dr. Anna Jessen and colleagues at the Royal Veterinary and Agricultural University in Denmark examined the acute thermogenic (heat producing) effects of chewing gum containing different doses of nicotine and caffeine. This well-controlled study included 12 healthy, normal-weight men; energy expenditure was measured before and 2.5 hours after subjects chewed the gum. Interestingly, the results indicated that one milligram of nicotine has a pronounced thermogenic effect, which is increased by about 100 percent when it’s combined with 100 milligrams of caffeine. Also, no side effects were reported with the gums that contained one milligram of nicotine with 50 or 100 milligrams of caffeine.
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There is a theory that DHEA (dihydroepiandrosterone), an adrenal hormone, conserves tissues and prevents ageing. Significantly higher levels of DHEA are found in meditators, some equivalent to people 5-10 years their junior.
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Jeanne Louise Calment (21 February 1875 – 4 August 1997)[2] was a French supercentenarian who had the longest confirmed human lifespan in history, living to the age of 122 years, 164 days.
Calment smoked from the age of 21 (1896) to 117 (1992).
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My work suggest that all tissues require DHEA for optimal transcription of genes. Also, all tissues compete for the available DHEA. I think the brain is able to absorb more DHEA than any other tissue. Hence, increased DHEA results in increased transcription in the brain, compared to other tissues. Brain is characterized by high metabolic activity and exhibits two to three times the transcriptional activity of other tissues. (J. Neurochem. 1991; 56: 812). This means that the "dip" in available DHEA between the peak from birth to early childhood and adrenarche is due to use of DHEA by the developing brain. As the brain finishes its development, the available (measurable) levels of DHEA increase.
As the brain increases in size, measurable levels of DHEA decline. The brain is using the DHEA. This also follows the size of the denditions. Lots of DHEA means large teeth.
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Interesting.
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But what about all the crap they add to cigarettes? I think tobacco/nicotine have little adverse affects in moderate amounts, but there's all kinds of junk added to cigarettes these days.

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But what about all the crap they add to cigarettes? I think tobacco/nicotine have little adverse affects in moderate amounts, but there's all kinds of junk added to cigarettes these days.

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Yeah, that's why if one uses tobacco it should be the unadulterated variety.
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Nicotine.

So good that it kills you instantly once injected.
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But what about all the crap they add to cigarettes? I think tobacco/nicotine have little adverse affects in moderate amounts, but there's all kinds of junk added to cigarettes these days.

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I think it is the same thing as plastic water bottles, the water is good for you but the crap they add to it for profit isn't.
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So add some nicotine lozenges to my morning coffee?
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I've been taking DHEA for awhile now. I'm no longer menopausal, but still waiting for that tummy fat to disappear.
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Nicotine.

So good that it kills you instantly once injected.
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Every drug is killing in higher ammounts.
Pharmacy: from pharmakeus (fem. pharmakis) "preparer of drugs, poisoner, sorcorer" from pharmakon "drug, poison, philter, charm, spell, enchantment."
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Pure nicotine in small dosages is perfectly fine. No worse than caffeine.

Combustion of material for it however is not fine.
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Maize, Pellagra and Tobacco
Pellagra is a vitamin deficiency disease most commonly caused by a chronic lack of niacin (vitamin B3) in the diet.
The traditional food preparation method of corn (maize),
nixtamalization, by native New World cultivators who had domesticated corn required treatment of the grain with lime, an alkali. It has now been shown that the lime treatment makes niacin nutritionally available and reduces the chance of developing pellagra. When corn cultivation was adopted worldwide, this preparation method was not accepted because the benefit was not understood. The original cultivators, often heavily dependent on corn, did not suffer from pellagra. Pellagra became common only when corn became a staple that was eaten without the traditional treatment.
In the early 1900s, pellagra reached epidemic proportions in the American South. There were 1,306 reported pellagra deaths in South Carolina during the first ten months of 1915; 100,000 Southerners were affected in 1916. ( [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Niacin was first described by Hugo Weidel in 1873 in his studies of nicotine. The original preparation remains useful: the oxidation of nicotine using nitric acid. Niacin was extracted from livers by Conrad Elvehjem who later identified the active ingredient, then referred to
as the "pellagra-preventing factor" and the "anti-blacktongue factor."
The symptoms includes:
High sensitivity to sunlight
Aggression
Insomnia
Mental confusion
Dilated cardiomyopathy
Eventually dementia
( [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Looks like the use of Tobacco by pre-Columbian Americans was an antidote to Pellagra, the illness that most likely was common at that time.
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But what about all the crap they add to cigarettes? I think tobacco/nicotine have little adverse affects in moderate amounts, but there's all kinds of junk added to cigarettes these days.

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what crap added to cigs?

who made that up

if you are referring to a specrtal analysis of tobacco??

then i think you will find all organic matter contains the same 'added' ingredients!
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And yet there are a shitload of fat smokers. So?
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Nicotine.

So good that it kills you instantly once injected.
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same could be said of almost anything injected in too high of a dosage.
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Nicotine Improves Memory And Helps Brain Repair Itself
The remarkable protective effects of nicotine — the addictive chemical in tobacco — on the brain are continuing to surprise scientists. One recent study has found that one of nicotine's metabolites, cotinine, may improve memory and protect brain cells from diseases such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. Another new study shows that nicotine can help improve some of the learning and memory problems associated with hypothyroidism. Such studies suggest that nicotine — or drugs that mimic nicotine — may one day prove beneficial in the treatment of neurological disorders.
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Nicotine Improves Memory And Helps Brain Repair Itself
The remarkable protective effects of nicotine — the addictive chemical in tobacco — on the brain are continuing to surprise scientists. One recent study has found that one of nicotine's metabolites, cotinine, may improve memory and protect brain cells from diseases such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. Another new study shows that nicotine can help improve some of the learning and memory problems associated with hypothyroidism. Such studies suggest that nicotine — or drugs that mimic nicotine — may one day prove beneficial in the treatment of neurological disorders.
[link to www.scienceagogo.com]
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The only two "illicit" drugs that have been found to produce neurogenesis are nicotine and THC.
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Nicotine Improves Memory And Helps Brain Repair Itself
The remarkable protective effects of nicotine — the addictive chemical in tobacco — on the brain are continuing to surprise scientists. One recent study has found that one of nicotine's metabolites, cotinine, may improve memory and protect brain cells from diseases such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. Another new study shows that nicotine can help improve some of the learning and memory problems associated with hypothyroidism. Such studies suggest that nicotine — or drugs that mimic nicotine — may one day prove beneficial in the treatment of neurological disorders.
[link to www.scienceagogo.com]
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The nicotinic ACh receptors (nAChRs) are widely expressed throughout the brain, including in the hippocampus where they are thought to be involved in regulating excitability, plasticity, and cognitive function. In addition, dysfunction in hippocampal nAChRs has been linked to a variety of neurological disorders and diseases, including Alzheimer’s disease, schizophrenia, and epilepsy.
[link to ntr.oxfordjournals.org]

Nicotine upregulates the nicotinic receptors.

Nicotine-induced upregulation of nicotinic receptors: [link to www.iibce.edu.uy]

Jan. 14, 2003
Nicotine administration in humans is known to sharpen attention and to slightly enhance memory. Now scientists, using functional magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), have identified those areas of the brain where nicotine exerts its effects on cognitive skills.
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

Aug. 7, 2006
Nicotine Found To Protect Against Parkinson's-Like Brain Damage
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

4-Apr-2007
Mechanism of nicotine's learning effects explored
[link to www.eurekalert.org]
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I knew my two pack a day habit would pay off! Fuck you non smokers! I loves my smokes and now proof my smokes loves me! I'll bet my caffeine loves me too! Smoken if you got em boys!
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I knew my two pack a day habit would pay off! Fuck you non smokers! I loves my smokes and now proof my smokes loves me! I'll bet my caffeine loves me too! Smoken if you got em boys!
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I used to think that smoking was the cause of my high blood pressure, since I've cut way back on coffee I've found that caffeine was the culprit all along.
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid,
it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

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It's much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why?
Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand.
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See Thread: Nicotine Increases Brain Function
Without applying nicotine, about 35 percent of the messages sent by the brain cell reached the cortex. But when nicotine was applied to the axon, the success rate nearly doubled to about 70 percent.
“We looked for more conventional reasons why the response was enhanced, but the evidence just kept pointing to the axon. Nicotine activated the proteins that we think are on the axon,” Metherate said. “This is a completely new idea about how the brain works.”
[link to www.eurekalert.org]
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Niacin Vitamin B3

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"Niacin is vitamin B-3, one of the water soluble B-complex vitamins. One of niacin's unique properties is its ability to help you naturally relax and get to sleep more rapidly at night. And it is well established that niacin helps reduce harmful cholesterol levels in the bloodstream. Abram Hoffer, M.D., Ph.D. explains: "Niacin is one of the best substances for elevating high density lipoprotein cholesterol (the "good cholesterol) and so decreases the ratio of the total cholesterol over high density cholesterol."

"Another niacin feature is its ability to greatly reduce anxiety and depression. Yet another feature of niacin is that it dilates blood vessels and creates a sensation of warmth, called a "niacin flush." This is often accompanied with a blushing of the skin. It is this "flush" or sensation of heat that indicates a temporary saturation of niacin, and that is our topic here."

A safe way to achieve some of the same results as nicotine.

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Interesting thread, thanks!
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Jeanne Louise Calment (21 February 1875 – 4 August 1997)[2] was a French supercentenarian who had the longest confirmed human lifespan in history, living to the age of 122 years, 164 days.
Calment smoked from the age of 21 (1896) to 117 (1992).
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Supercentenary Thomas Wishart, 124, d. l 760, Dumfries, Scotland
He had chewed tobacco 117 years! When a child, his father gave him tobacco to allay hunger while shepherding in the mountains.
[link to www.custance.org]

Amongst environmental factors, even such an obvious candidate as nonsmoking has failed to be
associated with extreme longevity. For example, the world's oldest man has smoked for most of his life and still smokes cigars regularly [6].
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Nicotine persistently activates ventral tegmental area dopaminergic neurons via nicotinic acetylcholine receptors containing α4 and α6 subunits.
Nicotine is reinforcing because it activates dopaminergic (DAergic) neurons within the ventral tegmental area (VTA) of the brain's mesocorticolimbic reward circuitry. This increase in activity can occur for a period of several minutes up to an hour and is thought to be a critical component of nicotine dependence.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Neuronal nicotinic acetylcholine receptors (nAChR) can modulate many cellular mechanisms, such as cell survival and memory processing, which are also influenced by the serine/threonine protein kinases ERK1/2. In SH-SY5Y cells and hippocampal neurones, nicotine (100 microM) increased the activity of ERK1/2.
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Because the complex I generates superoxide anion, we investigated the effects of nicotine, following NBT oxidation, and showed that nicotine was able to inhibit this reactive oxygen species (ROS) generation by 15.74% with an EC50 of 2.02x10(-11) M. In conclusion, the present study shows that nicotine interacts with the complex I of brain mitochondrial respiratory chain and decreases ROS generation. This may explain a part of the beneficial and protective effects of nicotine in few neurodegenerative diseases, as suggested by many epidemiological studies.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Nicotine protects rat brain mitochondria against experimental injuries
Epidemiological studies have reported that cigarette smoking may protect from neurodegenerative diseases such as Parkinson’s disease. These protective effects are thought to be mediated by nicotine. Recent data showed that nicotine significantly decreases respiratory control ratio (RCR) and superoxide anion generation of brain mitochondria.
mitochondrial damage were limited by chronic administration of nicotine. Nicotine developed Mitochondrial effects in vivo and in vitro at very low concentration. All these results were in accordance with epidemiological studies, which report a protective effect of nicotine in neurodegenerative diseases. Thus, we propose that one effect of nicotine is to preserve mitochondrial functions of the rat central nervous system.
[link to www.sciencedirect.com]
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NICOTINE MAY SLOW PROGRESSION TO ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE
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Nicotine Patch Improves Memory in People With Mild Cognitive Impairment
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Nicotine Analog Ups Brain Power in Alzheimer's
[link to www.medpagetoday.com]

Anti-smoking campaigns means big bussiness forecasts for the big pharma and health care:
Costs for care of people with Alzheimer's disease:
2010: $172 billion
2015: $202 billion
2050: $1.078 billion
[link to www.tenderrosehomecare.com]

16 million Americans will be battling this memory robbing disease by the year 2050.
Worldwide numbers of people with Alzheimer's or another dementia:
2009: 35.6 million
2030: 65.7 million
2050: 115.4 million
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My father died of Alzheimer's disease and he drank a lot of coffee but didn't smoke.

My Mother died at 70 looking like she was 90, smoked 3 packs of cigs a day, but her mind was sharp--when she wasn't foggy from prescription drugs.

I've never seen a smoker who was a heavy smoker over a long period of time not look very old, as in older than they were with very wrinkled skin.

Just saying dose and other factors are important--like what kind of additives are taken in with the tobacco.
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My father died of Alzheimer's disease and he drank a lot of coffee but didn't smoke.

My Mother died at 70 looking like she was 90, smoked 3 packs of cigs a day, but her mind was sharp--when she wasn't foggy from prescription drugs.

I've never seen a smoker who was a heavy smoker over a long period of time not look very old, as in older than they were with very wrinkled skin.

Just saying dose and other factors are important--like what kind of additives are taken in with the tobacco.
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Smokers look aged because smoking depleates vitamins E and C.
[link to www.livestrong.com]
So smokers should suplement with these vitamins.
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I honestly cannot figure out why almost everyone on this site seems to be brain dead. Nicotine is good for you, therefore smoke cigarettes? Are you serious?

Try Swedish snus or any other steam cured tobacco with no carcinogenic additives. The swedish have very low mouth/stomach cancer rates despite high usage of snus. Snus has a low nitrosamine count. Or just use the patch.

To add a bit of personal experience to further verify the studies mentioned previously, I used snus and had to quit for cosmetic reasons (breath and tooth stain). I have literally no withdrawal whatsoever because I supplement with DHEA and niacin, amongst other things. Its been two weeks and I still hardly even think about tobacco. I also am not experiencing the "brain fog" that is so often cited as a major withdrawal symptom.
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