Graffiti tagger receives 8 years in prison with no possibility of parole! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31557420 United States 01/23/2013 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 8 years to a kid for that? Quoting: violentoppisition police "worked hard" to catch this kid? someone needs to help this kid, AND at the same time put that cop and judge in for his sentence, then 1 year for every life they have wrecked. this whole thing is so fucked up i want to doubt that it is real. THAT IS NOT JUSTICE $7000 of damage, and 8 years back to back no parole. people get away with crazier shit than that everyday. poor kid Go back and look at the video there were other crimes. Marijuana possession... |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 01/23/2013 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a law and order guy but this is bullshit. The sentence is way out of line. Do Texas taxpayers know how much it'll cost to keep this kid locked up for 8 fucking years? For tagging?!Are judges elected in Texas? She looks to me like she's grandstanding. I'd be shocked if an appeal didn't lower the sentence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32583415 6 months in county, with any time served, restitution [he probably has no $] and probation. That's would be an appropriate sentence Of course he has no money but he can work and pay it off. |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 01/23/2013 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 8 years to a kid for that? Quoting: violentoppisition police "worked hard" to catch this kid? someone needs to help this kid, AND at the same time put that cop and judge in for his sentence, then 1 year for every life they have wrecked. this whole thing is so fucked up i want to doubt that it is real. THAT IS NOT JUSTICE $7000 of damage, and 8 years back to back no parole. people get away with crazier shit than that everyday. poor kid Go back and look at the video there were other crimes. Marijuana possession... no crime there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31557420 United States 01/23/2013 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32599202 United States 01/23/2013 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if i had caught him painting on my own property.. like my house or my car that i worked very hard to own. i would shoot him dead Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30927848 and then you'd go to jail and be someone's bitch for the rest of your life...deservedly so! Maybe or maybe not, this happened in Texas. Texas penal code gives alot of room on how people respond to dirtbags fucking around on their property especially if it's night time. Have a look at it. Not. I know for a fact that the castle doctrine in texas allows you to kill someone to prevent them from further destroying your property... I am not pro-vandalism, but there are better ways to handle this... I don't know. I wouldn't want to use that kind of force on anyone over something like vandalism myself and probably not even any sort of theft. Just wouldn't be worth having to go through the process and deal with the aggravation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17851333 United States 01/23/2013 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 8 years to a kid for that? Quoting: violentoppisition police "worked hard" to catch this kid? someone needs to help this kid, AND at the same time put that cop and judge in for his sentence, then 1 year for every life they have wrecked. this whole thing is so fucked up i want to doubt that it is real. THAT IS NOT JUSTICE $7000 of damage, and 8 years back to back no parole. people get away with crazier shit than that everyday. poor kid Go back and look at the video there were other crimes. Marijuana possession... Yep, Texas is down on pot. Someone mentioned prison system slaves, this is true. They have to keep those beds full and from what I can gather, they prefer non-violent offenders to do the work. That's why every day there are more and more laws for the people to follow. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31557420 United States 01/23/2013 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 8 years to a kid for that? Quoting: violentoppisition police "worked hard" to catch this kid? someone needs to help this kid, AND at the same time put that cop and judge in for his sentence, then 1 year for every life they have wrecked. this whole thing is so fucked up i want to doubt that it is real. THAT IS NOT JUSTICE $7000 of damage, and 8 years back to back no parole. people get away with crazier shit than that everyday. poor kid Go back and look at the video there were other crimes. Marijuana possession... no crime there. My point... it was felony possession so I don't know how much he had... but damn. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32583415 United States 01/23/2013 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a law and order guy but this is bullshit. The sentence is way out of line. Do Texas taxpayers know how much it'll cost to keep this kid locked up for 8 fucking years? For tagging?!Are judges elected in Texas? She looks to me like she's grandstanding. I'd be shocked if an appeal didn't lower the sentence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32583415 6 months in county, with any time served, restitution [he probably has no $] and probation. That's would be an appropriate sentence Of course he has no money but he can work and pay it off. That's fine. But 8 fucking years in state prison for tagging and weed possession? That's insanely harsh. It's way out of proportion to the crimes committed. And how much marijuana did he have? In my state small amounts are decriminalized. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17851333 United States 01/23/2013 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31759711 and then you'd go to jail and be someone's bitch for the rest of your life...deservedly so! Maybe or maybe not, this happened in Texas. Texas penal code gives alot of room on how people respond to dirtbags fucking around on their property especially if it's night time. Have a look at it. Not. I know for a fact that the castle doctrine in texas allows you to kill someone to prevent them from further destroying your property... I am not pro-vandalism, but there are better ways to handle this... I don't know. I wouldn't want to use that kind of force on anyone over something like vandalism myself and probably not even any sort of theft. Just wouldn't be worth having to go through the process and deal with the aggravation. Neither would I, but it sure would be fun to watch how fast they could run if you fired a couple rounds into the ground. |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 01/23/2013 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a law and order guy but this is bullshit. The sentence is way out of line. Do Texas taxpayers know how much it'll cost to keep this kid locked up for 8 fucking years? For tagging?!Are judges elected in Texas? She looks to me like she's grandstanding. I'd be shocked if an appeal didn't lower the sentence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32583415 6 months in county, with any time served, restitution [he probably has no $] and probation. That's would be an appropriate sentence Of course he has no money but he can work and pay it off. That's fine. But 8 fucking years in state prison for tagging and weed possession? That's insanely harsh. It's way out of proportion to the crimes committed. And how much marijuana did he have? In my state small amounts are decriminalized. of course |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 01/23/2013 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31759711 United States 01/23/2013 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31759711 and then you'd go to jail and be someone's bitch for the rest of your life...deservedly so! Maybe or maybe not, this happened in Texas. Texas penal code gives alot of room on how people respond to dirtbags fucking around on their property especially if it's night time. Have a look at it. Not. I know for a fact that the castle doctrine in texas allows you to kill someone to prevent them from further destroying your property... I am not pro-vandalism, but there are better ways to handle this... I don't know. I wouldn't want to use that kind of force on anyone over something like vandalism myself and probably not even any sort of theft. Just wouldn't be worth having to go through the process and deal with the aggravation. you're concerned with process and aggravation? What about living with the fact that you took another human's life over some graffiti?? |
RockHall User ID: 31649069 United States 01/23/2013 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | American justice. Kill someone drunk driving and you'll get an easier sentence. Poor bastard couldn't buy his way out like rich people do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30688956 This kid will go in a spraypainter but come out a hardened criminal. This self righteous judge is probably a cokehead. This self righteous judge is probably a cokehead. Or at least something like that. This is just another American horror story. "I think, therefore I am..." René Descartes "I don't think, therefore I am not..." RockHall "The ONLY hope we have is Donald Trump" ... Should Trump file for a recount in all the states he lost? Absolutely. Fair is fair. Thread: Should Trump file for a recount in all the states he lost? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32583415 United States 01/23/2013 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Graffiti is ugly,promotes crime,hurts property values etc.. I see no problem with the tagger getting 8 years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32599202 Have you ever spent just one night in jail you sick fuck? Amen. This kid will be fucked up for life after spending years in a state prison, at his age, for non-violent offense. He's not hardened. He will be when he gets out and still be a young man. Maybe that's the idea, they know odds are good he'll end up being in and out of prison. Fucking sick. |
Kybeam User ID: 27604421 United States 01/23/2013 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 01/23/2013 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32599202 Maybe or maybe not, this happened in Texas. Texas penal code gives alot of room on how people respond to dirtbags fucking around on their property especially if it's night time. Have a look at it. Not. I know for a fact that the castle doctrine in texas allows you to kill someone to prevent them from further destroying your property... I am not pro-vandalism, but there are better ways to handle this... I don't know. I wouldn't want to use that kind of force on anyone over something like vandalism myself and probably not even any sort of theft. Just wouldn't be worth having to go through the process and deal with the aggravation. you're concerned with process and aggravation? What about living with the fact that you took another human's life over some graffiti?? Amazing, isn't it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32583415 United States 01/23/2013 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | google '8 years in prison', and you'll get a lot of hits. Compare the offenses listed to what this kid did. Child porn drug trafficking armed robbery multi-million dollar embezzlement We can now add tagging and marijuana possession. |
• User ID: 18770744 Czechia 01/23/2013 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This kid will now become a hardened criminal when he may have been reformed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30688956 2 years or 6 minutes the choice should be given. [link to www.youtuberepeater.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30464505 United States 01/23/2013 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here in St Louis we have a tagger who calls himself "rat fag" over the last two years he's spray painted businesses , homes, cars and billboards This guys not an artist , it looks like something an 8 year old would do. But its all over the place. When you have " Rat Fag " crudely sprayed in 6 foot tall letters across the front of your store , you have to pay someone to get rid of it. I was talking to an insurance adjuster who's estimating that the guy has done over a half million in damages so far So yeah, I would have no problem putting his ignorant ass in jail for a 8 years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32583415 United States 01/23/2013 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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RockHall User ID: 31649069 United States 01/23/2013 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And btw... If this young man had been from a fairly wealthy family, he would have been given the right to make a phone call. He would have called a parent who, if he or she wasn't an asshole, would have told him not to say anything to the police (every non-asshole knows that). The parent would then call the family attorney who would have notified the police that the defendant was being represented by counsel. He or she would have then contacted a criminal attorney who would have taken it from there. The basic scenario as to what happened was that the perp was arrested on or near the scene of the crime, and then "brought upstairs" to be interrogated by a "nice guy" detective (good cop), then interrogated by a detective who would scare him to death (bad cop). Alternately, these two police-man/woman would work together to get the perp to admit to EVERYTHING (including things that he might have made up). The bottom line was that the police only had evidence for the initial crime. But by telling the perp that the judge would be much more lenient if he confessed to everything, he would get a lesser sentence. NO cop in this country would ever believe that! So in the end, the "district court" (misdemeanors only)tried the defendant for the crime he was caught committing, AND ALSO for the seven crimes he confessed to BECAUSE THE POLICE SAID THE JUDGE "WOULD GO EASY ON HIM" IF HE CONFESSED TO!!!!!!!! Much to the defendant's dismay, the judge buried him alive by finding him guilty for all the misdemeanors HE ADMITTED TO ... AND THEN sentenced him to CONSECUTIVE TERMS in the county jail! What is even far worse is that these jails are not designed to hold prisoners for more than a year. Sentences of more than a year are served in prisons. The basic point here is that the police and the judge showed absolutely no mercy for the defendant (which in these days is not unusual). Or if you prefer, they sentenced him to the stake (if you happen to know what that means). As a young black kid once said to me... "That's good old American justice." "I think, therefore I am..." René Descartes "I don't think, therefore I am not..." RockHall "The ONLY hope we have is Donald Trump" ... Should Trump file for a recount in all the states he lost? Absolutely. Fair is fair. Thread: Should Trump file for a recount in all the states he lost? |
RockHall User ID: 31649069 United States 01/23/2013 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | His final sentence of 2 years dates from 2009. This kid is out now. WTF are we arguing over it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32583415 There is still a point to be made. "I think, therefore I am..." René Descartes "I don't think, therefore I am not..." RockHall "The ONLY hope we have is Donald Trump" ... Should Trump file for a recount in all the states he lost? Absolutely. Fair is fair. Thread: Should Trump file for a recount in all the states he lost? |
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BAD WOLF User ID: 30099585 United States 01/24/2013 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I could see maybe 3 or 4 years sentenced plus community service in there somewhere but omg 8? And no parole? Yeah definately something wrong here. Yes it's still bad to graffiti buildings but 8 years and no possibility of parole is a bit much for it. While there's people get off less for abusing and killing their pets. There's others who probably done enough wrong to warrant that but yet get off for less. "The trust of the innocent is the liar's most useful tool"- Stephen King |
Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 01/24/2013 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is lucky he doesn't live in Singapore. Singapore has an UBER low crime rate. Why? People like Mr Graffiti Tagger get tied to a a post and CAINED for with 5 or more lashes depending on the severity of the offense. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 01/24/2013 12:08 AM |