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KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov's warning to America !

 
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I am no fan of the kgb however looking at things objectively which country is starting all the wars and killing so many people so the wealthiest families can control other nations oil.
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It is the leadership which needs to change! We are way overdue for a third party in this country.
 Quoting: Fire Watch


We have the:

Democrat Party

Republican Party

Libertarian Party

Communist Party

Socialist Party

Green Party

Liberal Party

When was the lastime you were in a voting booth. DUH!!!
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Ours is a two-party system dumb fuk. This has to change NOW!
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No it isn't. It is about as vibrant a society as we have had to date. It is unremittingly merit based however. In other words, one must have that necessary ability to engage with it and it is there that power lies and will continue to lie for the duration.

And there is no point in pinning your hopes on any meaningful challenge as capitalism seduces all that fall within its challenge. No one can restrain it dynamic. It pays to understand it however.
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Most of the damage has been done by JEWS! The Jew is always behind evil and things that damage society. America needs to round up all Jews and exterminate them once and for all!

You need to take a shower, you filthy Jew bastards!
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These are examples of barbarism. In the early days of America, the common call of the then elite in Europe was to exterminate the serf. Feudal society was also misogynistic. With the rise in colonialism, the new divide was at race. As post colonialism makes way for globalism, merit will rise to the fore. Of course, these remaining barbaric impulses evident in all corners of this globe will be with us for a while yet.
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there is that presentation about the new order of the barbarians. Some people really should give it a listen...
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FYI Yuri Bezmenov had a profound respect for Jewish culture. I know this because he was my wife's dad. He always spoke very highly of Jews and sent his kids to Jewish schools and summer camps. His message was one against the threats of Communism and loved America deeply and it's respect for freedom. If he were alive today I doubt he would agree with any of the conspiracies you guys foment in here. God bless...
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Most of the damage has been done by JEWS! The Jew is always behind evil and things that damage society. America needs to round up all Jews and exterminate them once and for all!

You need to take a shower, you filthy Jew bastards!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33245995


These are examples of barbarism. In the early days of America, the common call of the then elite in Europe was to exterminate the serf. Feudal society was also misogynistic. With the rise in colonialism, the new divide was at race. As post colonialism makes way for globalism, merit will rise to the fore. Of course, these remaining barbaric impulses evident in all corners of this globe will be with us for a while yet.
 Quoting: Marxist


there is that presentation about the new order of the barbarians. Some people really should give it a listen...
 Quoting: acegotflows


Barbarism was a product of its age. In the age of the feudal, it was essential that parochialism prevailed so as land based wealth may be protected in the hands of the few. Likewise with tribal societies and tribal privelege.

However, a free market does not distinguish on any basis and thus must compel adaptation. To try and tinker with these objective forces is pretty much a waste of time...unles of course one sees an opportunity in selling something to a particular group.

Capitalism is dynamic enought to preside over a market that caters for barbarian sentiment...just about anything in fact
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FYI Yuri Bezmenov had a profound respect for Jewish culture. I know this because he was my wife's dad. He always spoke very highly of Jews and sent his kids to Jewish schools and summer camps. His message was one against the threats of Communism and loved America deeply and it's respect for freedom. If he were alive today I doubt he would agree with any of the conspiracies you guys foment in here. God bless...
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His fears were groundless and probably based on not really understanding the nature of capital and its dynamism. We are headed for a more open society...whether it will be the one you like is another question as the freedoms will be predoninantly based around improving the profitability and movement of capital.
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The Marxists have won. Obama was elected and re-elected.
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Not yet, they haven't disarmed Americans and they won't.
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The Marxists have won. Obama was elected and re-elected.
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Not yet, they haven't disarmed Americans and they won't.
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Even if they did, they would be won over to capitalism the next week. Anyone trying to forment any change, communist, fascist or religious is wasting their time. They would soon relent or be removed by someone with the requisite cunning.
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nowhere else to defect to?
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You know the saying: "God help those who help themselves." And what Americans are going to do about it?!

5* OP
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Network, talk about it, wake people up. We have an advantage that didn't exist in the early 80's--the internet (which is why TPTB want so badly to control it).

It wouldn't take as long as he said to turn things around--or at least slow it down long enough to form a viable 3rd party, shore up the remaining liberty minded people in local, state and federal governments, push for changes in the education system, fight oppression however possible, etc.

One thing that will cause any such movement to fail is devisiveness, which is often government instigated.

It sounds almost impossible but Republicans & Democrats, liberals & conservatives and others who often seem diametrically opposed are going to have to put aside differences and realize that without true LIBERTY, they will no longer have the freedoms they take for granted today.

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You know the saying: "God help those who help themselves." And what Americans are going to do about it?!

5* OP
 Quoting: Kinga



Network, talk about it, wake people up. We have an advantage that didn't exist in the early 80's--the internet (which is why TPTB want so badly to control it).

It wouldn't take as long as he said to turn things around--or at least slow it down long enough to form a viable 3rd party, shore up the remaining liberty minded people in local, state and federal governments, push for changes in the education system, fight oppression however possible, etc.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


Just be prepared to become well heeled and defanged in the process. Like some of your shock jocks who really, if the truth be known, wouldn't want to change the status quo if it was an option although they probably started off with a good dose of zeal.
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Ok, but what is the desired outcome?

So what if Russia takes us over?

For what purpose?

Do they want something?
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Marxist commies are The Borg in Star Trek.
They want to assimilate everyone. Destroy individuality.
Eliminate private property ownership and make us all wards
of the state. That is the ones they let live.
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Ok, but what is the desired outcome?

So what if Russia takes us over?

For what purpose?

Do they want something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32555522

Marxist commies are The Borg in Star Trek.
They want to assimilate everyone. Destroy individuality.
Eliminate private property ownership and make us all wards
of the state. That is the ones they let live.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17898558


Assimilation occurs because the market works to create a standardised consumer. After all, there are only so many kinds of consumer that fit into the needs of the auto manufacturer.

The other facts such as property and such like will not be considered in our lifetimes. The world will fully globalise into a world culture as the markets adapt cultures to the needs of consumerism. In fact, you concern yourself with issues that will be of no consequence to you in your lifetime.

America will be ascendent for decades, private ownership will continue to be sacrosanct and extend into other cultures due to market forces. The general level of parochialism will wane as people become accustomed to, for example, travelling to their jobs in faraway places.
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Ok, but what is the desired outcome?

So what if Russia takes us over?

For what purpose?

Do they want something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32555522

Marxist commies are The Borg in Star Trek.
They want to assimilate everyone. Destroy individuality.
Eliminate private property ownership and make us all wards
of the state. That is the ones they let live.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17898558


Assimilation occurs because the market works to create a standardised consumer. After all, there are only so many kinds of consumer that fit into the needs of the auto manufacturer.

The other facts such as property and such like will not be considered in our lifetimes. The world will fully globalise into a world culture as the markets adapt cultures to the needs of consumerism. In fact, you concern yourself with issues that will be of no consequence to you in your lifetime.

America will be ascendent for decades, private ownership will continue to be sacrosanct and extend into other cultures due to market forces. The general level of parochialism will wane as people become accustomed to, for example, travelling to their jobs in faraway places.
 Quoting: Marxist


they have been preparing this country for this since at least WW2. At this point I don't see much that can be done without a complete unplug and restart...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Ok, but what is the desired outcome?

So what if Russia takes us over?

For what purpose?

Do they want something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32555522

Marxist commies are The Borg in Star Trek.
They want to assimilate everyone. Destroy individuality.
Eliminate private property ownership and make us all wards
of the state. That is the ones they let live.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17898558


Assimilation occurs because the market works to create a standardised consumer. After all, there are only so many kinds of consumer that fit into the needs of the auto manufacturer.

The other facts such as property and such like will not be considered in our lifetimes. The world will fully globalise into a world culture as the markets adapt cultures to the needs of consumerism. In fact, you concern yourself with issues that will be of no consequence to you in your lifetime.

America will be ascendent for decades, private ownership will continue to be sacrosanct and extend into other cultures due to market forces. The general level of parochialism will wane as people become accustomed to, for example, travelling to their jobs in faraway places.
 Quoting: Marxist


they have been preparing this country for this since at least WW2. At this point I don't see much that can be done without a complete unplug and restart...
 Quoting: acegotflows


When you use the word "they", you are inferring that there is some external force at play here, manipulating us. That is as far from the truth as anyone can get. I am mindful enough to admit that were I to say, run General Motors, I would quickly adopt existing practices. The market is made up of people, many of whom had humble beginnings...who when successful, adapt and take on the general practices of the market place in pursuit of competition. The fact that they send jobs to China, India, Brazil or some other low wage place (which is terrible for the American worker), is down to the fact that the owners seek to maximise profit.

All of this works out in particular ways which appear malignant to you. Like some dark conspiracy is at play.

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Marxist commies are The Borg in Star Trek.
They want to assimilate everyone. Destroy individuality.
Eliminate private property ownership and make us all wards
of the state. That is the ones they let live.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17898558


Assimilation occurs because the market works to create a standardised consumer. After all, there are only so many kinds of consumer that fit into the needs of the auto manufacturer.

The other facts such as property and such like will not be considered in our lifetimes. The world will fully globalise into a world culture as the markets adapt cultures to the needs of consumerism. In fact, you concern yourself with issues that will be of no consequence to you in your lifetime.

America will be ascendent for decades, private ownership will continue to be sacrosanct and extend into other cultures due to market forces. The general level of parochialism will wane as people become accustomed to, for example, travelling to their jobs in faraway places.
 Quoting: Marxist


they have been preparing this country for this since at least WW2. At this point I don't see much that can be done without a complete unplug and restart...
 Quoting: acegotflows


When you use the word "they", you are inferring that there is some external force at play here, manipulating us. That is as far from the truth as anyone can get. I am mindful enough to admit that were I to say, run General Motors, I would quickly adopt existing practices. The market is made up of people, many of whom had humble beginnings...who when successful, adapt and take on the general practices of the market place in pursuit of competition. The fact that they send jobs to America (which is terrible for the American worker), is down to the fact that the owners seek to maximise profit.

All of this works out in particular ways which appear malignant to you. Like some dark conspiracy is at play.
 Quoting: Marxist


You make good observations, but you failed to ask the most pertinent question and went straight to your explanations. Who are the They that I am referring to? Care to take a guess?
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Yep, one of the best videos in existence. The truth is out for a long time. thanks's for re-posting it, should be on perma-pin.
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Assimilation occurs because the market works to create a standardised consumer. After all, there are only so many kinds of consumer that fit into the needs of the auto manufacturer.

The other facts such as property and such like will not be considered in our lifetimes. The world will fully globalise into a world culture as the markets adapt cultures to the needs of consumerism. In fact, you concern yourself with issues that will be of no consequence to you in your lifetime.

America will be ascendent for decades, private ownership will continue to be sacrosanct and extend into other cultures due to market forces. The general level of parochialism will wane as people become accustomed to, for example, travelling to their jobs in faraway places.
 Quoting: Marxist


they have been preparing this country for this since at least WW2. At this point I don't see much that can be done without a complete unplug and restart...
 Quoting: acegotflows


When you use the word "they", you are inferring that there is some external force at play here, manipulating us. That is as far from the truth as anyone can get. I am mindful enough to admit that were I to say, run General Motors, I would quickly adopt existing practices. The market is made up of people, many of whom had humble beginnings...who when successful, adapt and take on the general practices of the market place in pursuit of competition. The fact that they send jobs to America (which is terrible for the American worker), is down to the fact that the owners seek to maximise profit.

All of this works out in particular ways which appear malignant to you. Like some dark conspiracy is at play.
 Quoting: Marxist


You make good observations, but you failed to ask the most pertinent question and went straight to your explanations. Who are the They that I am referring to? Care to take a guess?
 Quoting: acegotflows


People like you and I. However, as is to be expected in capitalism, people intent on defendng their positions and wealth and who thus seek the power to do so. This might well be old money, or even someone like Bill Gates who has only really been of any relevance since the '80's.

The point we need to remember is that there is a general shuffling of places in capital in the constant quest for profit and power. However, the theme is always the same. Survival in the mass of competition.

In fact, the fates of those who represent the past, people like Bin Laden should remind us that modernity is here to stay and that we all, everyone of us, play our own little part in its operation. Those who seek to take us back to some age in the past either become irrelevant, are assimilated or live inconsequential lives.

These are objective facts that it pays to try and understand so as we can make sense of this system and why it always rises up, like the proverbial Phoenix.
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I am no fan of the kgb however looking at things objectively which country is starting all the wars and killing so many people so the wealthiest families can control other nations oil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33172168


It is the leadership which needs to change! We are way overdue for a third party in this country.
 Quoting: Fire Watch


I am no fan of the kgb however looking at things objectively which country is starting all the wars and killing so many people so the wealthiest families can control other nations oil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33172168


It is the leadership which needs to change! We are way overdue for a third party in this country.
 Quoting: Fire Watch



Won't work,look at the third party the UK has,

you will be stitched up, they are all in it together as usual
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I Hate incremental-ism.

This why the thirst for doom is a common thing here at GLP....you know something shocking needs to happen in order to have a chance of waking up the sheep and breaking the matrix.
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The goal is world communism aka the New World Order.

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The goal is world communism aka the New World Order.


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The rich elite have no desire to turn over their palatial residences to you and your 120 cousins so I suspect that you may perhaps be day dreaming.

Global capitalism is perhaps a more realistic expectation.
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said it all along

our 'free' countries are infested with commie traitors, and the nwo will be communist, with islam as the controlling religion

simple. what that man is saying is 100% true.

the fall of the berlin wall was all part of the deception. demoralisation is a very good word for it. the russians have won. You only have to look at this board, and the praise Putin gets to see that.
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Would you say that sums up the videos? I don't feel like watching the whole thing. I was looking for a summary of it. To anyone that would like to sum it up in a few key points.
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I am no fan of the kgb however looking at things objectively which country is starting all the wars and killing so many people so the wealthiest families can control other nations oil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33172168


It is the leadership which needs to change! We are way overdue for a third party in this country.
 Quoting: Fire Watch


I am no fan of the kgb however looking at things objectively which country is starting all the wars and killing so many people so the wealthiest families can control other nations oil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33172168


It is the leadership which needs to change! We are way overdue for a third party in this country.
 Quoting: Fire Watch



Won't work,look at the third party the UK has,

you will be stitched up, they are all in it together as usual
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I am afraid you are right. We have to try though...what other choice do we have?

Last Edited by Fire Watch on 01/29/2013 07:59 AM
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said it all along

our 'free' countries are infested with commie traitors, and the nwo will be communist, with islam as the controlling religion

simple. what that man is saying is 100% true.

the fall of the berlin wall was all part of the deception. demoralisation is a very good word for it. the russians have won. You only have to look at this board, and the praise Putin gets to see that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33207206


Would you say that sums up the videos? I don't feel like watching the whole thing. I was looking for a summary of it. To anyone that would like to sum it up in a few key points.
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It is really worth a listen...the video is a prophetic warning to America from a former KGB agent...30 years ago and he is dead on!
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The goal is world communism aka the New World Order.


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The rich elite have no desire to turn over their palatial residences to you and your 120 cousins so I suspect that you may perhaps be day dreaming.

Global capitalism is perhaps a more realistic expectation.
 Quoting: Marxist


Ah you're one of those "useful idiots" Yuri was talking about, the demoralized morons who can't see reality anymore...you're so gullible and naive, it's pathetic...

Governments are always corporations ie legal fictions/entities. Most of them are or become fascist since fascism is corporatism...

But what kind of corporate POLICY do fascist governments always use to command and control the people? SOCIALISM! That's why National-SOCIALISM was a socialist tyranny using the same rhetoric and symbolism as the soviets, and now we face INTERnational-SOCIALISM thanks to "useful idiots" like you...

The REAL definition of socialism from the horses mouth:

"Under Socialism, you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner; but whilst you were permitted to live, you would have to live well." -George Bernard Shaw, Fabian Socialist



"Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed." -Attributed to Sarah Brady, President of Handgun Control, Inc., to Senator Howard Metzenbaum - The National Educator, January, 1994, Page 3.

It's coming...the check is in the mail...
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Commies being commies. Fsb/kgb 9/11...commies being commies. Following the planks just like commies being commies.

Fuck all commies, socialist, libtards, faux right nutters and all the marxist useful idiots. The west is dying from the disease they injected.

Facism...Socialism....Marxism...all bastard children of the Great Mother Commieland. Fuck her and her children.
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Commies being commies. Fsb/kgb 9/11...commies being commies. Following the planks just like commies being commies.

Fuck all commies, socialist, libtards, faux right nutters and all the marxist useful idiots. The west is dying from the disease they injected.

Facism...Socialism....Marxism...all bastard children of the Great Mother Commieland. Fuck her and her children.
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This video of his is particularly interesting...


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