BREAKING: IDF Orders Civilian Aircraft Evacuated from Haifa Airport! Israeli Warplanes over Lebanon. Bibi Makes Cases against Hezbollah

im sure if iran is really nuclear either israel or the usa knows about it and if its a lie then they will know about it aswell.. iran is in election so they spread alot of bs atm just like the new jet that turned out to be a mock up and all those statemants about attacking syria is an attack on iran. anyway they got all the information all we can do is guess.

Oh I didn't realize the plane was a mock up.

Again, both are illuminati puppets.
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could tell by the size of it. lol...those iranians are funny.

Bwa-ahahahaah!!!


Mercy!

This is pathetic. The first thing is that Israel will do nothing. They are far too weak to actually do anything. Remember the last time they attacked Lebanon. It was a disaster. They killed children and U.N. personal and they did it on purpose. They came out looking like real a**holes and rightly so. Hezbollah handed them a defeat with very little on their side. Israel lost the war.

Israel will never attack Iran. They would have their asses handed to them. What Israel wants is for the United States to attack Iran. That will not happen either. You have a fake president in office who was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. If he were to attack Iran and start WWIII then the Nobel Peace Prize would become the biggest joke in history.

Obama may give them as much money and artillery as they want but he is not going to to actually take part in any hostilities. It is just not going to happen. He is part hippy and too many people are still anti-war.

Haifa Airport is really a huge IDF base that allows private jets to use the airstrip. One of only three in the north compared to several in the south.

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Now that those jets have been parked...


Report: Israeli jets making 'mock attacks' in southern Lebanon

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thanks for the insight.

it's nice to have an israeli perspective.

I thirst to see him hanging from a lamp post.

What pro-war government? Israel has been under constant war & terror threat since even before its inception, so this distinction is immaterial.

Put away silly Muzzue/Commie propaganda. If anything Netanyahu is seen as SOFT & indecisive for stopping Pillar of Defense short. And of course for generally not starting wars during his 2 terms of PM --- most major wars in Israel were started by Lefties, actually.

Now I personally think that Bibi did the ONLY smart thing available during Gaza op. But he still took hits at polls during election for it (which is one of the signs of a real statesman - willingness to sacrifice popularity & short-term considerations... but I digress)

As for Syria, Hezbollah and Iran go... most Israelis not to mention IDF, ministers, strategists, et al understand that war is inevitable at this point. Thanks to BIll Clinton and Barack Obama for neglecting this issue -- and Bush was too pre-occupied with Iraq, too.

It's all a matter of Iran blinking first. And they have/will.

Interesting.

Yeah. Despite Israel having its hands tied behind its back by "international community".... despite Israel having been led at the time by stunningly incompetent, corrupt trio of PM Ehud Olmert, the former labour-union boss Amir Peretz as Defense Minister and Tsipi Livni as FM.... despit the fact that Leftists policies had for years degraded IDF's training & tank programs...

Israel had kill ratio of 8 best Hezbollah for 1 Israeli reservist (mostly tank ambush). Stellar 8:1 ratio. Hezbollah even tried to hide their casualty totals in Syrian hospitals & mass graves in collapsed tunnels in Bekaa, etc. Eventually about 800 were tallied up -- and again, we're talking their finest commandoes & anti-tank/anti-aircraft crews.

(Israel alos lost about 50 civilians, mostly Israeli-Arabs. Lebanon lost about 700 civilians having Hezbollah infrastructure illegally integrated next to their "human shields" of course.)

Even despite sophistecated Russian ATGM like Kornet & Metis-M.... of about 40 or so mostly older Merkava tanks hit, all but 5 returned to service after repair. Wow, 5 tanks destroyed --- out of

LOL, Israel didn't even authorize real troop call-up until cease-fire was about to go in effect -- and there was enver more than 20,000 IDF reservists in Lebanon at any given time (they were used on rational basis as per IDF doctrine... in other words, numbers wise Hezbollah and IDF were about evenly matched + Hezbollah had great advatage of fighting on its own soil & blending with civilian population)

Hezbollah's "great divine victory" was in incurring multi-billion dollar damage, the wrath of the Lebanese Sunnis -- its popularity has plummeted greatly since then -- so much so even the normally shit-talking Hassan Nasrallah apologized to his people afterwards & pretty much admitted that had Nasrallah known how harsh Israel's response would be, he never would started the war with kidnapping of 2 soldiers. Lebanese PM also cried on Live TV.

In other words... don't believe the hype. And IDF is so far superior in 2013 to 2006, not to mention it's actually led by Right-wingers now... it's not even funny.

Nevermind, that in a real-war, unlike a guerilla operation.... UN will never be able to prevent IDF from using its power. Not even comparable to 2006.

Read and learn something, fool

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Best thing is that they are using your tax payers money to do it.....

Just about the only tax money we pay that is being spent wisely.

Comparatively speaking Hezbollah is a hero/freedom fighter organisation when it comes to Israeli atrocities. Hezbollah and likewise Lebanese citizens are far more victimized by Israel than the other way around, on any scale. Israel just needs to build an excuse to to loot and rob them of their lands as they've already done to the Palestinian natives and they know they cannot take them alone so they're(as usual) trying to garner some volunteer muscle from the west to be used as their pawns again as with the game of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc.

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are you a suni or a shit

Neither, I'm a Muslim.

LMAO!

There is literally NOT a single word of truth or common sense or historical facts in your entire paragraph. Congrats, you've broken some kind of a record for sheer falshood, non-sequitur & blood-libel.

Just more massive Muslim lies & conspiratorial paranoia.

Oh yeah, good luck buying water & gas from Israel. Jews are nice will give you a discount despite all your venality, venom, vitriol & vars :)

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Who Won the Second Lebanon War of 2006?
by Robert Werdine


On the morning of July 12, 2006, members of the Reserve Battalion of the IDF’s 300 Brigade, 91 Division were en route to a routine border patrol on the Israel-Lebanon border around milepost 105. At about 9:00am, one of their two HUMVEE utility vehicles struck an IED, and a hailstorm of ATGMs (Anti-Tank Guided Missiles) blanketed both vehicles, killing three and wounding four. Hezbollah militants at once pulled two of the wounded Israeli soldiers from the wrecked vehicles, and made off with them across the border. As a diversion, Hezbollah militants elsewhere then launched a salvo of rockets, mortars, and sniper fire at several Israeli villages and IDF outposts in the vicinity of milepost 105 to sow confusion and cover the kidnapper’s escape. A few Israeli Merkeva tanks sent across the border in pursuit yielded nothing, and one of the tanks hit an IED and was blown to bits, killing the crew. A rescue attempt to retrieve the dead crew encountered a firefight with Hezbollah, killing two IDF, and a stream of airstrikes hitting some 69 bridges in S. Lebanon failed to cut off the kidnappers escape. The Hezbollah cross-border raid/kidnapping was a complete success.[1]

The Israeli campaign in response to the Hezbollah provocation has been much criticized, and rightly so. The war unquestionably exposed failures in planning, intelligence, counterintelligence, command, mobilization, execution, and logistics. The Israelis wished, to the greatest possible extent, to destroy Hezbollah’s infrastructure and weaponry, neutralize them as a military force, and force their removal north of the Litani. They also hoped that a favorable political diminishment of Hezbollah within Lebanon would follow the successful military campaign. On July 24, 2006 the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs enumerated the following goals:

“First, regarding southern Lebanon, Israel wishes to preserve the gains of the current military campaign, whereby Hizbullah has been removed from the border region.

Second, regarding the Hizbullah's long-range missiles which are fired at Israeli civilians from beyond the border zone - unless Hizbullah disarms itself willingly, this threat must be clearly addressed.

Third, the Hizbullah must be prevented from re-arming. This will require close monitoring of the possible routes into Lebanon from Syria or elsewhere.” [2]



To achieve these objectives, the Israelis had a contingency plan consisting of an air assault (code-named ICE BREAKER) to be complemented with a massive ground assault 72 hours later (code named MEY MAROM). Yet the IDF Chief of Staff, Lt. General Dan Halutz, eschewed both for an improvised air assault punctuated by pinpointed “surgical” forays at Hezbollah militants along the border. Halutz was repeatedly told by both military and intelligence analysts that such an approach would be wholly inadequate to eject Hezbollah from south Lebanon, but he ignored them.

II) The War: July 12, 2006—August 14, 2006

After a week of air assaults and commando raids that had undoubtedly inflicted much punishment on Hezbollah’s infrastructure and logistics, the decisive victory promised by Halutz was, however, nowhere in sight. Hezbollah was just as firmly entrenched along the border and south of the Litani as they ever were, and rockets were still popping into northern Israel at 100 or more a day. Halutz, realizing that air assault alone was not doing the job, now consented to the ground operation he had previously dismissed as unnecessary. Yet even here he equivocated; instead of the full-scale ground invasion envisaged by MEY MAROM, the IDF would deploy battalion and company size units in “raids.” [3]

On July 19, at the Shaked outpost near the border between Avivim and Maroun al-Ras, the IDF took fire from a Hezbollah detachment of 20 fighters situated on a hillcrest. For 12 hours a brutal firefight raged until the IDF brought up reinforcements, surrounded the position, and killed all 20 militants in place.

Next, the IDF engaged Hezbollah at the stronghold of Maroun al-Ras on July 20, and they were shook by the ferocity of the resistance they encountered. The main roadway junction up to the village was heavily mined, and an IED explosion ignited by the Israelis brought a hailstorm of fire on the Israeli advance guard. The village was mined, booby-trapped, and well fortified. Hezbollah militants made excellent use of direct and indirect small arms and anti-tank fire from concealed positions, and they worked their elaborate tunnel system to maximal effect, hitting the IDF advance guard from multiple emplacements. The Hezbollah defenders’ fire control was excellent and well coordinated.

After some initial missteps in which an infantry platoon from the Maglan brigade found itself temporarily surrounded, a reinforcement of an infantry company and an armored platoon was brought up, and a 5-7 hour firefight ensued in which all of the Hezbollah defenders were killed in place. Later in the day, some 15-30 Hezbollah militants counterattacked an Israeli company deployed in buildings on a hillcrest within the secured perimeter; the company was surprised, and there ensued some brutal hand to hand fighting before a score of the militants were killed, and the rest put to flight. The Israelis lost 8 killed and Hezbollah lost 24, and, though sniping from outside the village continued for some days afterward, the Israelis secured a presence inside the village, if not the entire surrounding area. [4]

On July 26 the IDF advanced on the Hezbollah stronghold of Bint J’Bail for a “raid,” and the Hezbollah defenders there had prepared a warm welcome for them that would even excel the one the IDF received at Maroun al Ras. The town had been the chief rocket-launching area, and had long been a heavily fortified Hezbollah HQ. Hezbollah had reinforced the 60 man garrison in the town to about 100-150, about 40 of which included members of the Unit Nasr from the Special Forces skilled in sabotage and anti-tank defense; all were armed to the teeth. As with Maroun al-Ras but even more so, Bint J’Bail was heavily mined and booby-trapped, and the advance guard of Companies A and C from the 51st Battalion came under withering fire.

Once again, Hezbollah militants made excellent use of direct and indirect small arms and anti-tank fire from concealed positions in the town’s elevated buildings, and 30 of C Company’s troops were hit, including the Deputy commander Major Roi Klein, who was killed. Company C was now in danger of being outflanked and cut to pieces; Company A now moved up to reinforce, and gave cover while Company C evacuated their wounded. The firefight had lasted 5-7 bitter hours, and the IDF lost 8 killed and 27 wounded while inflicting about 20 dead on the defenders, but the IDF had gained a foothold within the town by the end of the day. (On this occasion, the IDF stretcher bearers, who traversed in and out of the killing zone for several hours while the battle raged to tend and evacuate the wounded, showed particular heroism). The next two days would see sporadic fighting in and around the town, with areas see-sawing back and forth, and the IDF did not really secure a presence in the town until August 14, by which time the Israelis had lost 14 killed and 31 wounded, and Hezbollah had lost about 80 men killed. Bint J’Bail was the most fiercely fought battle of the war.

The first part of the battle raged from July 25-July 30. There was a tactical withdrawal of two companies of the Golani from an exposed position in Bint J’Bail on July 25 after a bitter firefight in which some 40 Hezbollah and 8 IDF were killed. There was a Hezbollah counterattack on the 890th Battalion on Hill 850 outside the town on July 28 in which 20 Hezbollah were killed. In another engagement on the 29th, elements of the Golani once again clashed with Hezbollah in which 26 Hezbollah were killed, , and where IDF forces uncovered 5 anti-tank missiles, 30 hand grenades, 41 ammunition clips, 10 battle vests, 20 assault rifles, 15 handguns, 4 shotguns, a mine detector and equipment used to manufacture and detonate explosive devices.

On July 30th the 890th Battalion and elements of the the Golani Brigade withdrew, but reentered four days later on August 3, destroyed a Hezbollah missile launcher, and discovered another cache of assault rifles. On August 5, some 8-10 gunmen were killed, IDF units discovered a cache of Katyusha rocket and Sagger missile stores, and hit another rocket launcher on August 6. On August 8, there was a fierce firefight between units of the Golani and Hezbollah when the IDF commandeered a Hezbollah command post where three IDF, and 15 Hezbollah were killed. A Hezbollah ATGM hit an IDF infantry position, wounding six and damaging a tank. In a firefight on August 9, 2 IDF paratroopers and 20 Hezbollah were killed.[5]

Up until the end of July the IDF made no attempt to occupy territory for more than raiding purposes. By the 1st of August, the IDF now decided to increase the forces on the ground, and by August 11 Operation Change Direction 11 had commenced.

Some 30,000 IDF troops—four divisions—were now deployed in South Lebanon. In the next three days, the Reserve Armored Division was deployed to Marjayoun; the 162 Infantry Division had advanced 6 miles westward from Addaisseh through At Tayyibah to Ghanduriyah and successfully linked with units of the Nahal that had been airlifted there; the 91st Division had advanced 3 miles northwest from Bint JBail to a position between Kafra and Brashit; and the Airborne Reserve Division had advanced 6 miles north through Debel to a position just south of Bayt Lif.

Units of the Nahal Brigade were airlifted into the vicinity of Ghanduriyih on August 12 to secure a link-up with the 162 Division which was advancing westward. The Nahal had scouted the high ground around the Wadi Saluki (i.e., the Saluki Valley), and pronounced it clear of the enemy. However, some 100 Hezbollah fighters armed to the teeth with small arms and ATGM’s had taken up positions beyond the area they scouted. Unbeknownst to them, the 24 tanks and two companies in the advance guard of 401 Brigade were walking into one of the fiercest ambushes of the war.

After a Merkava tank had hit an IED, the 24 tanks on the narrow incline were now plastered with a hail of ATGM fire. In the ensuing firefight, 11 of the 24 tanks were hit with ATGM fire, two of which were destroyed. 8 tankmen were killed, along with four infantry. The 401st could get no air cover for fear of fratricide, but once they brought up their artillery to bear on the attackers, the Hezbollah attackers ceased firing and withdrew, leaving 80 dead behind them. The 162 division continued its advance and linked with the Nahal outside Ganduriyuh.

In Ghanduriyuh, Hezbollah had skillfully prepared a series of defensive positions. However, when IDF units took one position, the defenders would move to the flank of the attackers in an attempt to retake the lost ground instead of withdrawing and regrouping to the previous defensive lines. Once again, Hezbollah defenders had an opportunity to bleed the enemy and conserve their forces for a stronger defense or a concentrated counterattack, and they instead opted for one of their usual pointlessly costly, to-the-last-martyr static defenses. IDF units had a fierce firefight with the town’s defenders, but they cleared it; the IDF lost 12 soldiers killed, and 57 dead Hezbollah were counted within the town. A squad sized counter-attack by Hezbollah on the town’s casbah was a failure. 162 Division was in firm possession of the town at the time of the ceasefire. [6]

The launch of this operation at this time, defied all common sense and logic. UNSC Resolution 1701 had just passed marking the cease-fire to be implemented on the 14th. What could possibly have been accomplished until then?

As Yaakov Katz of the Jerusalem Post wrote:

“Late Friday night, just hours before the resolution [1701] was passed, Armored Brigade 401 began moving its tanks across the Litani - facing fierce Hizbullah resistance - in what has become known as the "Battle of the Saluki." Crossing the Saluki required that the troops and tanks climb a steep hill overlooked by mountains in every direction. Understanding the risk at which he would be putting his tanks, Brig.-Gen. Zur deployed the Nahal Brigade on the outskirts of the villages of Andouriya and Farun to take up positions on the high ground and to provide cover for the armored column moving below.

Under the command of Col. Moti Kidor, then commander of Brigade 401, the Merkava tanks had been waiting for the push to the Litani for close to a week. They had received orders to begin rolling twice. When they began to move, however, they were immediately ordered to stop. But on Friday, August 11, at close to 5 p.m., the orders came again, and by 8 p.m. the tanks began rolling. Hizbullah had meanwhile made its preparations. Kidor's men had been in the field on standby for almost a week and Hizbullah knew that the only passage West was through the Saluki. At least 100 guerrillas took up positions with the most advanced anti-tank missile - the Russian-made Cornet - and waited. By early Sunday morning, just 24 hours before the cease-fire went into effect, Kidor had finally succeeded in crossing the wadi and climbing the hill - albeit after paying a heavy price. Twelve soldiers were killed - eight in tanks and four infantry - and 44 were wounded.

But then came the orders to stop the advance and to begin returning. Kidor and his men were left wondering what they had been sent out to achieve in the first place. Why were they dispatched to cross the Saluki when it was clear that the cease-fire would pass? What did these 33 soldiers die for? The battle of the Saluki is a microcosm of possibly all of the mishaps that occurred during the war. For a week, soldiers were like sitting ducks waiting for orders that were received and twice cancelled, signifying a total lack of clarity and confidence on the part of the diplomatic echelon in general, and particularly its head - Olmert. When the orders finally came, they made no sense. Why push to the Litani hours before the UN was set to approve a cease-fire? What was the point of the brief and very bloody operation, especially considering that two days after crossing the Saluki, they crossed it again - this time heading home?” [7]

The use of tanks on such a narrow incline at Wadi Saluki defies all logic, but, sure enough, the same could be said of the entire operation. No possible excuse existed for the latter part of the operation from August 11-14, and the first part was of doubtful necessity. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Chief of Staff Halutz spun the operation as having weakened Hezbollah and made the passage of Resolution 1701 possible, but this was self-serving cant. The truth is that 24 soldiers died to no purpose or benefit in an operation that should never have been launched. There was no getting around it: the entire ground offensive launched on July 19 and concluded on August 14, had failed to achieve any of the strategic goals that had been set. The war had ended in a stalemate... ....


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Don't recall any such order re civilian aircraft before. Does anyone know of any?

Thanks all for interesting thread.