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ISAIAH 17 and what comes before.

 
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Matthew 26:27-29

27 Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29 I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.”

May your kingdome come.
Soon, as the Lord promised and have said, we will indeed drink with Him again in His Kingdome that comes.

His Church waits eagerly for that glorious day.

In Jesus Christ!
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Some serious questions:

The Christian religious 'authorities' and their followers categorically deny that John the Baptist was Elijah 'raised from the dead'.

So, according to the Prophecy of Malachi and the Prophecy of Jesus, Elijah is to return again; and before Jesus.

In other words, shouldn't the Christians be looking for the arrival of Elijah before the arrival of Jesus?

And yet I never hear in any of these "time lines" from Daniel, etc. anything about either the arrival of Elijah or the arrival of the Michael Prophesied by Daniel.

Why not?

And how does this Elijah return in the first place?

Michael
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Jesus Himself testified that John the Baptist was the "spirit of Elijah" that was to come, which he did:

Matthew 11: 7-15

7 As John’s disciples were leaving, Jesus began to speak to the crowd about John: “What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed swayed by the wind? 8 If not, what did you go out to see? A man dressed in fine clothes? No, those who wear fine clothes are in kings’ palaces. 9 Then what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet. 10 This is the one about whom it is written:

“‘I will send my messenger ahead of you,
who will prepare your way before you.’

11 Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. 12 From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subjected to violence, and violent people have been raiding it. 13 For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John. 14 And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come. 15 Whoever has ears, let them hear

As for Michael, where did Daniel ever prophecy that he was to come before? There is no such scripture?

Elijah I believe will come again during the days of TRIBULATION that is soon coming.

I believe he will be one of the 2 witnesses.
He may be even on the earth now, who knows, waiting for the appointed time.
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Well, first of all, you ignore the plain meaning of the words of Jesus by ignoring the meaning of the question of his disciples, because you are a follower of Paul.

Never mind.

The Prophecy of Daniel says that Michael will arrive and, after he arrives, the "time of trouble" will occur.

What do you mean "on the earth now"?

How could he have arrived without anyone knowing?

Did he arrive in the context of the Doctrine of "resurrection"/'rebirth' as taught by Jesus?

Or did he fly out of the sky on a white horse...

And no one noticed?

Michael
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Joel: 30 - 32

30 I will show wonders in the heavens
and on the earth,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
31 The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.32 And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved;
for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem
there will be deliverance,
as the Lord has said,
even among the survivors
whom the Lord calls.

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One must understand this and today it will be...

Mount Zion the Mountain of Evil that is to be delivered... Cast out of Jerusalem... Jerusalem This Earth... And the survivors that have called on the name of thy lord will walk in Paradise... As In The Days Of Noah... No Outcasts Allowed Here... The Wicked will not hide... Can not hide... They will be delivered to the abyss as written...
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Soon the Church will celebrate the day we were given life because our Lord, Jesus Christ died for us.

This good friday, when we were given eternal hope and eternal life in Him, who died for our sins and rose again on the 3rd day of Easter.

May you find peace in the Hope that we have in our Lord, Jesus Christ who always watches over us.

To those of you who have given your life over to Him, blessed are you as you are forever in His hands and care and under His Grace.

Turn ye from your wickedness, from your sin.
Repent of the desires that tie you to the flesh and of this world and seek the Lord and His Spirit that you may be filled with True Understanding and Wisdom.

For the Lord who created all that is, is the source of all that is Wisdome and Goodness.

From Him and in Him center your life that in all that you do, you will find happiness and fulfillment and the promise of His ever presence and direction.

Be thankful in all things and remember the Lord.
For this is the greatest blessing of all.

In Jesus Christ!
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Stop being an idiot and assuming an earthquake is really an earthquake, it means sweeping change.

Political earthquake!

Wake up dumb dumb.
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For those of you wondering how you can make the most impact for Jesus Christ.

For the VERY SHORT time we have.
Stand up for Jesus Christ.
Tell people about Jesus Christ.

This is how you can do the work and will of the Lord.
By telling other people your testimony and your faith in Jesus Christ.

If you tell one person, maybe you might indeed change the world in His Power and Name.

In Jesus Christ!
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Stop being an idiot and assuming an earthquake is really an earthquake, it means sweeping change.

Political earthquake!

Wake up dumb dumb.
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To be honest, it is ok for me not to see any of the visions I spoke about in this thread, if the Lord would come for me and all believers in Him before then.

But if the Lord is willing to show me the things I have mentioned come to pass, then I pray the Lord enables me to do a great follow up and reach as many people as I can with the message of salvation in Him and through Him.

That I can do a great work for the Lord so that when I see Him on that day, my JOY will be that much greater and sweeter when I see His face.

In Jesus Christ,

God Bless!
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I think with all our learning the human race in totality has become disillusioned and jaded to the point of being sarcastic.

So many people have thought human beings could create a perfect society, a utopia, every generation thinking THEY were the ones that were going to do it.

And look at history, every one of those people have failed.
Completely.

Human beings can't do it, do you know why?
Because the SIN, the EVIL that is in us that fights against our godly desire to do what is good and right.

We are weak and as long as sin is a part of us, we will erode and eventually become a rotting cesspool, as all things that are contaminated become.

Then Jesus Christ, Son of God, CREATOR, came.
He cleaned up that contamination and introduced in us a cure. That cure is His blood that purifies ours.

For the LIFE is in the blood and His blood makes us clean.
Born-Again we have a renewed hope. Not one that was driven by contamination, which was SIN in us, but now by His BLOOD, the CURE in us, that is the Holy Spirit.

The cure that Jesus Christ gives, makes us like how Adam and Eve were before they sinned.

When we as human beings new perfection. Saw the face of God and did not die from the pure GOODNESS that penetrates our very souls. That GOODNESS that did not find sin but radiated and reflected that GOODNESS from within as we were originally intended and created to be.

IN GOD'S IMAGE.
HIS REFLECTION.


We are going to be like that again.
And THIS TIME, we are going to be able to make that UTOPIA come true, in our Lord, Jesus Christ.

Because the CURE that Jesus Christ gave us, those of us who asked for forgiveness and are forgiven and now clean:

THAT Holy Spirit works in us to make us and change us more and more, to be like Him, until the DAY He comes for us and transforms us to be GLORIFIED AS HE IS.

CAN YOU JUST IMAGINE ALL OF CREATION AND ETERNITY at your fingertips?

To be in the very presence of God Himself?
To witness and SEE creation first hand?
To be committed to a plan of God's that He says NO ONE HAS EVER CONCEIVED OF?

You unbelievers and mockers say we'll get bored in heaven and eternity, standing around and just worshipping Him forever and ever...

But then, they don't know what the Holy Spirit in me is telling me.

No, they don't know at all.
With great assurance, our imagination and expectation cannot even fathom the immensity and conceivability and awesomeness of what God has prepared and promised for those that Love Him and Believe in Him.

Stand Ready.
Keep rooted in Jesus Christ.
Don't give Him up for anything.
Because knowing the Lord and the Promise He is coming to pass for you is unimaginably awesome! More than winning the Lottery forever and ever, every single day.

Because we cannot imagine the scale of awesome, the Lord's promise is going to be.

It is literally a scale that is eternity, and in forever there is no measure, but it keeps going on and on without end.

That's how much awesome the AWESOME we are going to get IS.

PRAISE BE TO THE LORD OUR GOD!!!

In Jesus Christ!
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Easter.

I am hoping and praying that the Lord shows the world how real He is.

Today He was crucified and on the third day, He rose again from the dead.

He IS God in the flesh.
The WORD made flesh, as it is written.

Ask Him to forgive you of your sins today.
Today could be the final day.
Don't wait, do it today.

I tell you, it really sucks when you miss out on the lotto, when all you had to do was scratch the ticket.

All you have to do is ASK JESUS CHRIST TO FORGIVE YOU OF YOUR SINS AND FOLLOW HIM.

TODAY!

In Jesus Christ!
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I am hoping and praying that the Lord shows the world how real He is.
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That's definitely the way to go
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I am hoping and praying that the Lord shows the world how real He is.
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That's definitely the way to go
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The thing is, when He does, will it be too late for most of the sinners who did not ask their sins to be forgiven?

Anyone can believe what they see, but Faith is believing that which is not seen but known in your heart.

For the Lord calls out to those who Hear His voice. They that strive in their heart and gravitate toward what is right and good.

For though they sin, they desire to be good.
The Lord enable those who seek to find and those that have the heart for righteousness to have eternal life.

In Jesus Christ!
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I think the time is almost at hand.
Maybe even this easter, its a pure wanna be desire.

But if there was any day that the Church would be taken, why would it not be Easter?

On the day Eternal Life was given to the hopeless and Grace was given to the hopeless and sinful.

On the day Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour, our one true God in the Flesh, the Son of God, rose from the grave to Eternity to sit on the Right hand of the Father and have all Authority and Power given to Him.

The HEAD of the Church.
Praise ever be to our Lord!
Who comes for us.

In Jesus Christ!
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too late
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There's no such thing
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too late
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There's no such thing
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Of course there is.

When you die without forgiveness, it is too late.
Don't die without asking Jesus to forgive you of your sins.

And many people will die when the TRIBULATION begins...
And for many people it will be too late.

Don't be one of those people.

In Jesus Christ!
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too late
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There's no such thing
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Of course there is.

When you die without forgiveness, it is too late.
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Ah, right - the contrived dogmatic deadline after which Almighty God's hands are utterly tied.
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too late
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There's no such thing
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Of course there is.

When you die without forgiveness, it is too late.
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Ah, right - the contrived dogmatic deadline after which Almighty God's hands are utterly tied.
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mortal.
You are going to die.
There is no stopping you from dying.
You will die.

Be respectful of the Living God who created You.
And fear His Wrath on your sin.

For that Day is coming.
And no one who sees that day will be found without guilt.

The boastfulness of a man's lips.
How their tongues will weight like lead within their mouth and lips become cracked and dried out.

For great will be the darkness and despair upon the heart of every man and woman.

Who will see the Day of the Lord.

In Jesus Christ.
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mortal.
You are going to die.
There is no stopping you from dying.
You will die.
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Gosh, really?! Never once crossed my mind! Wow - you've given me a lot to think about.
hf




For great will be the darkness and despair upon the heart of every man and woman.
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They'll be fine. Why don't you trust Him to judge fairly?
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mortal.
You are going to die.
There is no stopping you from dying.
You will die.
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Gosh, really?! Never once crossed my mind! Wow - you've given me a lot to think about.
hf




For great will be the darkness and despair upon the heart of every man and woman.
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They'll be fine. Why don't you trust Him to judge fairly?
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Do you think waving a love pic with flowers with your post masks your true nature?

Or how vile your words are when compared to scripture?

If you believe in God's Word, why is it that you question it?

Did He already not tell you ahead of time what is SIN?

Then if you plead your case before the Judge and the Law you are found guilty for there is no salvation there but only judgement.

If you are hoping that the Lord will judge you fairly, he surely well and will send you to the Lake of burning fire.

For no man, but Jesus Christ was ever without sin.

Only by HIS GRACE are you saved.
Why is it that you deny this to this day?
And mock what you do not know?

Repent before it is too late for you.

In Jesus Christ.
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mortal.
You are going to die.
There is no stopping you from dying.
You will die.
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Gosh, really?! Never once crossed my mind! Wow - you've given me a lot to think about.
hf




For great will be the darkness and despair upon the heart of every man and woman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720033


They'll be fine. Why don't you trust Him to judge fairly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Do you think waving a love pic with flowers with your post masks your true nature?

Or how vile your words are when compared to scripture?

If you believe in God's Word, why is it that you question it?

Did He already not tell you ahead of time what is SIN?

Then if you plead your case before the Judge and the Law you are found guilty for there is no salvation there but only judgement.

If you are hoping that the Lord will judge you fairly, he surely well and will send you to the Lake of burning fire.

For no man, but Jesus Christ was ever without sin.

Only by HIS GRACE are you saved.
Why is it that you deny this to this day?
And mock what you do not know?

Repent before it is too late for you.

In Jesus Christ.
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Golly!
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mortal.
You are going to die.
There is no stopping you from dying.
You will die.
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Gosh, really?! Never once crossed my mind! Wow - you've given me a lot to think about.
hf




For great will be the darkness and despair upon the heart of every man and woman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720033


They'll be fine. Why don't you trust Him to judge fairly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Do you think waving a love pic with flowers with your post masks your true nature?

Or how vile your words are when compared to scripture?

If you believe in God's Word, why is it that you question it?

Did He already not tell you ahead of time what is SIN?

Then if you plead your case before the Judge and the Law you are found guilty for there is no salvation there but only judgement.

If you are hoping that the Lord will judge you fairly, he surely well and will send you to the Lake of burning fire.

For no man, but Jesus Christ was ever without sin.

Only by HIS GRACE are you saved.
Why is it that you deny this to this day?
And mock what you do not know?

Repent before it is too late for you.

In Jesus Christ.
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Golly!
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Gee?
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Joel: 30 - 32

30 I will show wonders in the heavens
and on the earth,
blood and fire and billows of smoke. )Christ Blood, The Holy Spirit, and the wrath Of God poured upon His Son.)
31 The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
(Jesus will be killed and sin will be washed away)
before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord. (THE DAY OF THE LORD WAS THE RESURRECTION)32 And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved;
for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem
there will be deliverance,
as the Lord has said,
even among the survivors
whom the Lord calls.
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Can't you see "IT IS FINISHED"?
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Joel: 30 - 32

30 I will show wonders in the heavens
and on the earth,
blood and fire and billows of smoke. )Christ Blood, The Holy Spirit, and the wrath Of God poured upon His Son.)
31 The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
(Jesus will be killed and sin will be washed away)
before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord. (THE DAY OF THE LORD WAS THE RESURRECTION)32 And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved;
for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem
there will be deliverance,
as the Lord has said,
even among the survivors
whom the Lord calls.
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Can't you see "IT IS FINISHED"?

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Do you have any clue to why Jesus said "IT IS FINISHED"?

This statement was made by Jesus right before He died because HE PAID FOR OUR SINS.

THAT PAYMENT FOR OUR SINS WAS ACCOMPLISHED AT HIS DEATH.
The Purpose for which He came from the Father was "finished" to be the Saviour of mankind, to ANY who would confess their sins and ask forgiveness of Him and accept His blood He paid your sins with.

If you try to understand the Word of God without True Faith, without the Holy Spirit's administering, you will never understand.

In Jesus Christ.
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Not to argue ....bur When God says "IT IS FINISHED" I for one don't have any need to think there is anything else for Him to complete except for the mansions He is completing for us all.
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Here is a very good example of "IT IS FINISHED"


Please read Daniel 9


49 + 62
= 111 = Calvary made all things NEW! The Three are indeed 1


49 x 7 = 343

62 x 7 = 434

= 777


777 FATHER
+111 SON

= 888 HOLY GHOST


777
+ 111
+ 888

= 1776
"This is where God sent His people in the WEST 270 !
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Not to argue ....bur When God says "IT IS FINISHED" I for one don't have any need to think there is anything else for Him to complete except for the mansions He is completing for us all.
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Well I'm not sure why you think anyone implied otherwise?
His death and resurrection is complete.

But the WORK OF SALVATION still goes on in the hearts of men and women, for they don't become automatically saved.

Salvation comes to those who ask forgiveness of their sins and follow Him.

Also, we as believers can share the Gospel message but it is HIS WORK IN THE HEART OF MAN that brings that person to that point of Salvation and being saved, which only Jesus Christ can do.

God is finished with the payment on sin.
The SALVATION of man is complete in God's plan.
But that gift needs to be accepted and shared, for if you want Salvation, your going to have to ask for it, first by asking Jesus Christ to forgive you of your sins and then following Him.


God is though, not finished with JUDGEMENT.
Because though HE PAID FOR ALL THE SINS OF MANKIND, those that reject that payment, will be JUDGED, because that SIN was retained by that person who rejected God's gift, in His Son, Jesus Christ.

In Jesus Christ!
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Here is a very good example of "IT IS FINISHED"


Please read Daniel 9


49 + 62
= 111 = Calvary made all things NEW! The Three are indeed 1


49 x 7 = 343

62 x 7 = 434

= 777


777 FATHER
+111 SON

= 888 HOLY GHOST


777
+ 111
+ 888

= 1776
"This is where God sent His people in the WEST 270 !
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Take your numerology crap from this thread.
If you want to believe in that nonsense, you have no place in this discussion.
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Are you calling Gods' Word crap?

He listed these numbers so we could understand

I am a Christian, not a soothsayer
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Are you calling Gods' Word crap?

He listed these numbers so we could understand

I am a Christian, not a soothsayer
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You interpret them as you wish.
I pay no attention to any of this.

My focus is in God's written Word and in Jesus Christ who is the fulfillment of that Word.

In Jesus Christ.
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Daniel 12

Are you aware 1290 and 1335 are amazing words from God our Father?

1290 was the time of Christs' ministry.... it started early at Cannan

1290 x 360 = is 3.5 years + eight days/ the day of circumcision for all mankind on Calvary

1335 is the 45th The Day The Holy Spirit fell on all the earth.

45 X 8 "The Holy Spirit fell at Pentecost = 360 degrees "all the earth"

The Holy Spirit of promise convicts us of sin and causes us to repent through His convicting authority.
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Easter.

I am hoping and praying that the Lord shows the world how real He is.

Today He was crucified and on the third day, He rose again from the dead.

He IS God in the flesh.
The WORD made flesh, as it is written.

Ask Him to forgive you of your sins today.
Today could be the final day.
Don't wait, do it today.

I tell you, it really sucks when you miss out on the lotto, when all you had to do was scratch the ticket.
So you are one of those who is working yourself to heaven?
All you have to do is ASK JESUS CHRIST TO FORGIVE YOU OF YOUR SINS AND FOLLOW HIM.

TODAY!

In Jesus Christ!
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360 "earth" x the number of man 6 = 1260 = 42 months = 42 generations from Abraham the father of our faith till Jesus Christ began His life here on earth 42 months is 3.5 years . Jesus Christ and The Holy spirit are God The Fathers TWO WITNESSES!

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