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Message Subject FBI: Man attempted to bomb bank, trying to set off US civil war
Poster Handle davvi
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There are certainly a lot of stories out there lately about people thinking they are in contact with "someone bad", while it actually is a FBI agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884


That is what I was thinking. All these supposed cases of terrorism are all created by the government. To further justify the need for a crack down. In all reality, these supposed terrorist would not even have the means, and possibly the idea to commit the acts but for the government.I had a case a year ago where my guy was charged with possessing a machine gun. Truth of the matter is it was ATF s gun, and ATF sold it to him. The guy did not even know he wanted a machine gun until it was offered by the ATF.
 Quoting: Shellbe


^^ This ^^ i have no idea when what the LEOs do can be considered entrapment?

does one insist that an alcholic have a drink? and if one does aren't they an called an "enabler?" then why is the fbi not cast as an enabler?
 Quoting: davvi


entrapment is a very difficult defense to prove. If the government can show any predisposition on the defendants side, the defense fails. so basically, all they have to show is the defendant already had guns and that would be enough. text book example of entrapment is the distraught father with a sick child who cant pay the medical bills, government agent approached and offers a way out if the father commits a crime. In my case, we had a much better defense and did end up getting a not guilty. you can only hope the juries do the right thing in these cases, which in many cases they do not. In my opinion its because of fear created by the government.
 Quoting: Shellbe


interesting. i have often wondered about that tv show called "bait car". leaving a high-end car with keys in it and then arresting the person who "steals" it seems strange to me. yes i know that the perp had the option to not take it, but sometimes the temptation is too great.

i am in no way excusing the thief, but still...
 
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