the overlooked meaning of the parable of the sowing of the seeds | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22411078 United States 02/16/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jesus was slain in this time continium as a continuing sacrafice to atone for our sins till we take up our own cross and we do as he did. we are painting a portrait that will never dry till maybe the big guy wills it so. to not take up your own cross is antichrist. its not accepting a scapegoat that will die and suffer repeatedly and infinately for us and all humanity collectively, its about dieing for yourself and taking up your own cross. i dont know the future other than that. thoughts? |
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Keep2theCode User ID: 20545539 United States 02/16/2013 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what does rebirth have to do with seeds of truth being sown? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22411078 i dont follow. None whatsoever. Some people reject the Bible and make up whatever they want it to say, based on some scraps from the trash bins of history which, without anywhere near as much verification, they claim is "the hidden truth". Just read what Jesus said it meant, since it's his parable. The prophet Daniel specifically Prophesied of such "hidden Truths". Either you believe the Prophecy of Daniel or you do not. Michael Jesus is the revealing, the Reality. Either you recognize the limits of mystery or you reject God Himself. Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16) |
Keep2theCode User ID: 20545539 United States 02/16/2013 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | okay lets not digress into battles of opinion. but if you want to hear mine Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22411078 jesus was slain in this time continium as a continuing sacrafice to atone for our sins till we take up our own cross and we do as he did. we are painting a portrait that will never dry till maybe the big guy wills it so. to not take up your own cross is antichrist. its not accepting a scapegoat that will die and suffer repeatedly and infinately for us and all humanity collectively, its about dieing for yourself and taking up your own cross. i dont know the future other than that. thoughts? Yet everybody has an opinion, so there will be battles. We all think we're right. But not all of us go around claiming to be God or special or higher, as some do. Jesus died "once for all" as the writer of Hebrews tells us, not "repeatedly" or "continuing". Our sins are atoned for, if we accept his sacrifice on our behalf. But people are proud and prefer to earn things they could have for free. Dying to self means being made alive by faith in Jesus, and growing in the love of his realm rather than this world. It's all about being reconciled to God by the means he provided: faith in the risen Jesus. Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16) |
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drhoecker User ID: 16728269 United States 02/16/2013 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are you refering to the fact we come back around and one man has actually in past offered to verify this truth and set his likeness as a sign for when he return's all the world will see his face and know you can not kill the spirit? then creating the sowing of seeds in a new light? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22411078 United States 02/16/2013 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now the question is, does this time continium exist after we leave it? besides the rest of humanity living that jesus died for, does the past still exist as some sort of memory bank of lives in 4d (width length depth time) and experienced in 5d. aka continued pain? i dont think so, but its worth the thought and consideration im sorry i cant grasp the idea of one man attoning for my sins other than me. i am not in 4th grade letting jimmy getting punished for me spilling the ink. specially not gods son. ill take it, but reluctantly and i guess thats its own suffering itself. i can see the idea that we would be sent to hell left on our own accord suffering for our past selves, implying an inchangeable past and recorded brushstroke. drhoecker User ID: 16728269 i was refering to the idea when i first posted in that i at the time thought of the seed as being people being strewn upon various soils, brought upright and sometimes not. and that god dont make no junk, and that no seed (aka person) is not contained within the parable itself therefore is not forgotten or contained in gods word or book. |
Keep2theCode User ID: 20545539 United States 02/16/2013 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im sorry i cant grasp the idea of one man attoning for my sins other than me. i am not in 4th grade letting jimmy getting punished for me spilling the ink. specially not gods son. ill take it, but reluctantly and i guess thats its own suffering itself. i can see the idea that we would be sent to hell left on our own accord suffering for our past selves, implying an inchangeable past and recorded brushstroke. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22411078 So believing what Jesus said he came to do is "4th grade"? Wow. All right, I'll leave you alone. Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16) |
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Keep2theCode User ID: 20545539 United States 02/16/2013 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when did jesus say he was going to die for all humanities sins himself? inform me? was that the plan from the get go? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22411078 Look, in asking that question it's clear you haven't read much of the Bible, especially the New Testament. And if you think the Bible is "4th grade" I'm not going to waste my time. Make up your mind; do you really want help understanding the Bible/Jesus or not? ADDED: Remember, you started this thread as a teacher; look at the title. Last Edited by Keep2theCode on 02/16/2013 10:40 AM Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22411078 United States 02/16/2013 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i dont care what i was 2 hours ago. or at least i try not to i was saying its "4th grade like" to have somebody take the blame or penalty of my wrong doing. i am not saying at all that the bible is 4th grade like. i am just saying that i cannot understand logically this notion that somebody can atone for me, i guess though if anybody could it would be god's son. just doesnt make sense in an area of my brain as of right now my whole schtick was if somebody were to pull me out of this suffering, they would have to suffer a whole lot for it. and that compounded by billions of people past and futures,......... i dont know questions can be answers |
Keep2theCode User ID: 20545539 United States 02/16/2013 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i dont care what i was 2 hours ago. or at least i try not to Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22411078 i was saying its "4th grade like" to have somebody take the blame or penalty of my wrong doing. i am not saying at all that the bible is 4th grade like. i am just saying that i cannot understand logically this notion that somebody can atone for me, i guess though if anybody could it would be god's son. just doesnt make sense in an area of my brain as of right now my whole schtick was if somebody were to pull me out of this suffering, they would have to suffer a whole lot for it. and that compounded by billions of people past and futures,......... i dont know questions can be answers You have to look at the "big picture", which I tried to paint here: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Don't judge an idea juvenile if you just don't understand it; that's rather rude. But if you're going to keep changing every hour or two, it's impossible to carry on a conversation, like nailing jello to a wall. Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16) |
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