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Possible DA14-small over Chely. scenario. Check the angles. | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19514200 United States02/19/2013 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] This is ONLY at about 30 degree incline to the earth-sun plane, so coming over the arctic just go easier. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19514200 United States02/19/2013 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200 This is ONLY at about 30 degree incline to the earth-sun plane, so coming over the arctic just go easier. just got easier |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34757761  United Kingdom02/19/2013 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19514200 United States02/19/2013 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to blogs.discovermagazine.com] Closest approach appears to be over Bay of Bengal on this animation. Now, if a piece of this was on the other side coming in, that would take it over the arctic and to the Urals easy enough...! Check out the side view animation (scroll down more). |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19514200 United States02/19/2013 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19514200 United States02/19/2013 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it 14 hours earlier, or 24, I hear different accounts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200 I will find out. [link to www.esa.int] 3:20 GMT for Russian Meteor |
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G. House  User ID: 34776906 United States02/19/2013 06:39 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chelyabinsk was very near the "top" of the globe of Earth as observed from above the solar system at the time of this hit. Sunrise has just occurred, it was a month from equinox and it's at 55 deg. north, so the tilt of Earth puts it up there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 247684 If a small piece of DA14 split and entered the Earth's atmosphere from the Sun-side, but from the south, by the time it gets pulled into the Urals it has curved around to the top of the globe where it finally hits. The final angle seems to be plausible. Check this with a globe and imagine a piece rounding the sun-side of earth from a generally south direction. It comes over the artic ocean before hitting Chely. Apparently you have mental issues? Did horribly in school with geometry and math? Last Edited by G. House on 02/19/2013 06:41 PM "Everybody lies." |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19514200 United States02/19/2013 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the Russian one would be on the SAME SIDE JUST CLOSER, like in a HIT, 13 hours ahead of the main! Comes in over Mexico at 3:19 GMT, then over northern Canada, Arctic Ocean then Siberia, then Chelyabinsk. 13 hours later main piece passes over Indian Ocean. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19514200 United States02/19/2013 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the Russian one would be on the SAME SIDE JUST CLOSER, like in a HIT, 13 hours ahead of the main! Comes in over Mexico at 3:19 GMT, then over northern Canada, Arctic Ocean then Siberia, then Chelyabinsk. 13 hours later main piece passes over Indian Ocean. This works, check it out. Astro, check it out. I'm still looking also. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19514200 United States02/19/2013 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19514200 United States02/19/2013 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The best viewing location for the closest approach will be Indonesia, from which the asteroid will be seen to move at a rate of almost 1° per minute against the star background." [link to www.astronomy.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19514200 United States02/19/2013 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34464973 United States02/19/2013 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no es posible The Chebarkul meteor came from the general direction of the sun. Their trajectories are in almost opposite directions of each other DA14 came in behind the Earth from the sun and curved in Earth's gravity and ending headed towards the sun. [link to wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net] If you look at the direction DA14 left in the above pic, thats fairly close to the direction that the Chebarkul meteor came from. So no, they are completely unrelated. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19514200 United States02/19/2013 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a path: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200 Passing the equator, then Mexico City, Seattle, Anchorage, Tura, over the East Siberian Sea, then Tura, then Chelyabinsk at dawn. Passing the equator, then Mexico City, Seattle, Anchorage, over the East Siberian Sea, then Tura, then Chelyabinsk at dawn. (had tura twice) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19514200 United States02/19/2013 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no es posible Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973 The Chebarkul meteor came from the general direction of the sun. Their trajectories are in almost opposite directions of each other DA14 came in behind the Earth from the sun and curved in Earth's gravity and ending headed towards the sun. [link to wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net] If you look at the direction DA14 left in the above pic, thats fairly close to the direction that the Chebarkul meteor came from. So no, they are completely unrelated. [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Look at the angle here from side view. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34464973 United States02/19/2013 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a path: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200 Passing the equator, then Mexico City, Seattle, Anchorage, Tura, over the East Siberian Sea, then Tura, then Chelyabinsk at dawn. Passing the equator, then Mexico City, Seattle, Anchorage, over the East Siberian Sea, then Tura, then Chelyabinsk at dawn. (had tura twice) If youre suggesting in any way that the Chebarkul meteor orbited the Earth - No it was traveling way too fast for that. It would have had a small curve at the last bit of its travel, but not much. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19514200 United States02/19/2013 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no es posible Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973 The Chebarkul meteor came from the general direction of the sun. Their trajectories are in almost opposite directions of each other DA14 came in behind the Earth from the sun and curved in Earth's gravity and ending headed towards the sun. [link to wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net] If you look at the direction DA14 left in the above pic, thats fairly close to the direction that the Chebarkul meteor came from. So no, they are completely unrelated. [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Look at the angle here from side view. Spin the Earth back west 13 hours from your pic and consider that the path is a hit at Russia. It can then pass over Mexico, then Canada to get there. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19514200 United States02/19/2013 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a path: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200 Passing the equator, then Mexico City, Seattle, Anchorage, Tura, over the East Siberian Sea, then Tura, then Chelyabinsk at dawn. Passing the equator, then Mexico City, Seattle, Anchorage, over the East Siberian Sea, then Tura, then Chelyabinsk at dawn. (had tura twice) If youre suggesting in any way that the Chebarkul meteor orbited the Earth - No it was traveling way too fast for that. It would have had a small curve at the last bit of its travel, but not much. No, not orbited, but around Mexico is began descending and it nearly hit the North Pole area but continued to Siberia. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34464973 United States02/19/2013 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no es posible Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973 The Chebarkul meteor came from the general direction of the sun. Their trajectories are in almost opposite directions of each other DA14 came in behind the Earth from the sun and curved in Earth's gravity and ending headed towards the sun. [link to wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net] If you look at the direction DA14 left in the above pic, thats fairly close to the direction that the Chebarkul meteor came from. So no, they are completely unrelated. [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Look at the angle here from side view. Yeah I realize that. They can from very close to opposite directions from each other, on a plane that was fairly close. Most asteroids in our solar system are fairly close to that same plane, as are all the planets and most comets. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19514200 United States02/19/2013 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no es posible Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973 The Chebarkul meteor came from the general direction of the sun. Their trajectories are in almost opposite directions of each other DA14 came in behind the Earth from the sun and curved in Earth's gravity and ending headed towards the sun. [link to wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net] If you look at the direction DA14 left in the above pic, thats fairly close to the direction that the Chebarkul meteor came from. So no, they are completely unrelated. [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Look at the angle here from side view. Yeah I realize that. They can from very close to opposite directions from each other, on a plane that was fairly close. Most asteroids in our solar system are fairly close to that same plane, as are all the planets and most comets. I'm listening to you. Can you do this for me? Grab a globe and consider the path I gave earlier. Do you think it would work? Seriously. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19514200 United States02/19/2013 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Spin the Earth back west 13 hours from your pic and consider that the path is a hit at Russia. It can then pass over Mexico, then Canada to get there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200 BINGO! 13 hours - Thats because they came from almost opposite directions from each other. ie. not related 13 hours earlier an early arriver that is hitting is passing over Mexico and headed north over the arctic. |
