A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless

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A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34795766 United States 02/22/2013 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless Catholics...here is a problem you have in believing that Mary was sinless... From James... God cannot be tempted by evil. [link to bible.cc] From John Jesus is God in the flesh (verse 14) [link to www.biblegateway.com] From the gospels.. Jesus was lead by the Holy Spirit into the desert to be tempted... [link to www.biblegateway.com] How could Jesus have been tempted...what part of Jesus's makeup allowed Him to be tested? Oh oh Catholics...Jesus inherited His ability to be tempted...from Mary. Mary had sinned...or why else would Catholics have had to invent the immaculate conception...in 1854? Catholics had to invent a doctrine that said that Mary was born sinless...utter nonsense!

Anonymous Coward User ID: 34960947 Canada 02/22/2013 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless I'm not catholic but I have never read that they portray her as sinless.
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 34795766 United States 02/22/2013 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless I'm not catholic but I have never read that they portray her as sinless. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34960947 Oh...they do say that...just wait...follow this thread for a little while...somebody will chime in to defend Mary as sinless.
Ozi Dude User ID: 34960172 Australia 02/22/2013 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless I was raised chatholic and I was never taught that Mary was sinless. ????

Anonymous Coward User ID: 27202787 Australia 02/22/2013 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless I'm not catholic but I have never read that they portray her as sinless. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34960947 Oh...they do say that...just wait...follow this thread for a little while...somebody will chime in to defend Mary as sinless. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34795766 God chose Mary and He kept her sinless.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18661203 United States 02/22/2013 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless Another stupid thread by a protestant with no clue. 1) Mary is sinless. Yep. This doesn't mean she wasn't tempted, just that, she stayed open to grace, kept following God and never sinned. 2) Jesus is God and man. In his humanity, he experienced temptation. Temptation isn't sin. See 1.
Ozi dude User ID: 34960172 Australia 02/22/2013 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless I have a huge problem with SIN. God created man and woman just the way we are. Everything else up until us was good. According to the bible. But then God went and wrecked it all with us humans. Full of sins. Why did he make us that way if he does not like it. I dont get it. Are we that powerful that God has to destroy us. Is it that we have something in us that God fears??? The whole sin concept seems to be a control mechanism. either good or bad I am not making a jugement call. just saying. Oh and sorry OP dont mean to take you off you subject
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 34795766 United States 02/22/2013 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless Another stupid thread by a protestant with no clue. 1) Mary is sinless. Yep. This doesn't mean she wasn't tempted, just that, she stayed open to grace, kept following God and never sinned. 2) Jesus is God and man. In his humanity, he experienced temptation. Temptation isn't sin. See 1. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18661203 And the "brilliant" Catholic scholars needed a mere 1821 years to come up with this doctrine? Mary needed a Savior...because she had sinned. Why did Mary offer a sin offering...the birds that were sacrificed (to fulfill Moses Law) regarding childbirth? Nice try to ignore obvious Scripture.
Shoot straight Johnny User ID: 34799401 United Kingdom 02/22/2013 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless They also believe the pope is infallible. Another lie. 'Traditions of men'. The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands.
Ozi dude User ID: 34960172 Australia 02/22/2013 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless They also believe the pope is infallible. Another lie. 'Traditions of men'. Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny That is true.

Anonymous Coward User ID: 11934995 Canada 02/22/2013 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless Another stupid thread by a protestant with no clue. 1) Mary is sinless. Yep. This doesn't mean she wasn't tempted, just that, she stayed open to grace, kept following God and never sinned. 2) Jesus is God and man. In his humanity, he experienced temptation. Temptation isn't sin. See 1. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18661203 And the "brilliant" Catholic scholars needed a mere 1821 years to come up with this doctrine? Mary needed a Savior...because she had sinned. *Why did Mary offer a sin offering...the birds that were sacrificed (to fulfill Moses Law)* regarding childbirth? Nice try to ignore obvious Scripture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34795766** your question answers itself
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1468685 United States 02/22/2013 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless lol @ morons wasting time and brainpower arguing this nonsense. You may as well argue how many stripes are on the cat in the hat's hat.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30270036 United States 02/22/2013 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless We inherit original sin at birth. If you claim Mary wasn't sinless then you're also saying Jesus wasn't sinless.

Anonymous Coward User ID: 11934995 Canada 02/22/2013 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless lol @ morons wasting time and brainpower arguing this nonsense. You may as well argue how many stripes are on the cat in the hat's hat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1468685 27
CeeLite User ID: 33205178 United States 02/22/2013 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless Catholics...here is a problem you have in believing that Mary was sinless... From James... God cannot be tempted by evil. [link to bible.cc] From John Jesus is God in the flesh (verse 14) [link to www.biblegateway.com] From the gospels.. Jesus was lead by the Holy Spirit into the desert to be tempted... [link to www.biblegateway.com] How could Jesus have been tempted...what part of Jesus's makeup allowed Him to be tested? Oh oh Catholics...Jesus inherited His ability to be tempted...from Mary. Mary had sinned...or why else would Catholics have had to invent the immaculate conception...in 1854? Catholics had to invent a doctrine that said that Mary was born sinless...utter nonsense! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34795766
Mickeyblue User ID: 9806228 United States 02/22/2013 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless You have to understand that no one is born sinless. We are corporal creatures born in sin, meaning we are born into corruption and will die. Jesus died, the fully human part of him died, but not the God part of Him died.
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 34795766 United States 02/22/2013 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: A riddle for Catholics and the false belief that Mary was sinless We inherit original sin at birth. If you claim Mary wasn't sinless then you're also saying Jesus wasn't sinless. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30270036 No, the "original sin" idea is a Catholic invention. You are born with a sinful nature...a tendency to sin...but, you are not born with sin. Ezekiel 18 does a good job of explaining the situation... [link to www.biblegateway.com]
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