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Message Subject Will there be a noteable "last chance" sign to learn God's requirements before the tribulation?
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WHERE DID THEY GO?...

 Quoting: 9teen

Since the dead are resurrected first (as in Eze:37) how would people not be able to see that start and then repent and be part of the 1,000 year reign by the skin of their teeth? For the 'rest of us' our duties are the same in the last 3 1/2 years as they have been all along (with various degrees of success)

1Pe:4:12:
Beloved,
think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you,
as though some strange thing happened unto you:
1Pe:4:13:
But rejoice,
inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings;
that,
when his glory shall be revealed,
ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
1Pe:4:14:
If ye be reproached for the name of Christ,
happy are ye;
for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you:
on their part he is evil spoken of,
but on your part he is glorified.
1Pe:4:15:
But let none of you suffer as a murderer,
or as a thief,
or as an evildoer,
or as a busybody in other men's matters.

1Pe:4:16:
Yet if any man suffer as a Christian,
let him not be ashamed;
but let him glorify God on this behalf.
1Pe:4:17:
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God:
and if it first begin at us,
what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
1Pe:4:18:
And if the righteous scarcely be saved,
where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

The cut-off point is the end of the 2nd woe and the beginning of the 3rd. The last event is the man of sin sitting on a throne in Jerusalem in a Temple claiming to be God. The ones who give glory to God in the last few verses of Re:11 are the ones in Judea who have been passing gifts back and forth for 4 days and then the demand for worship comes or death. The 7,000 that die will be the 1st from mankind that would do that so God kills them rather than let that happen. The ones that witness that are the ones who should be doing the running and not stopping. The ones who do run away fast enough are the ones who witness the destruction of the city in 1 hour and a few hours later the 7th vial is the one being poured out and that earthquake is the same in in Zec:14 and the valley created holds a river that is more than 2 miles wide (Eze:47) and the graveyard in Eze:39.

1/2 hour of silence then the House of Prayer is built and then the 144,000 that witnesses the earthquake from the top of the mountain north of the Sea of Galilee where Moses and Elias were seen in a vision so the words in Zec:14 would be from their viewpoint as to how big Christ is. In that scale the 200M angelic horsemen would be trampled under his feet rather than His sword being used. That is used on the sinners of the world starting at Jerusalem but traveling around the globe.

They and the ones in the clouds would land at the temple courtyard and that would be the 2 witnesses and then any Prophet or Apostle and then their followers and then the remainder that are destined to be resurrected to life. The 12 tribes are in Re:4 through the 'beheaded for the word of God' in that all but the 144,000 will visit the grave like Jesus did before they are gathered. A period not less than 3 days and 3 nights. By specifying the 12 tribes He also includes all their relatives so that dates back to Abraham's days. Gentiles must then date back Adam unless the 12 stars the 1st woman has represents the 12 oldest people in the Bible as being the Elders. They would have been resurrected when Jesus was and Adam (and Eve) would be there leading them.

On the return they are the ones given crowns so they also have thrones and all other people there are 'starting day1 of 360,000 days before they know enough to be qualified to be priests (12 Tribes) and kings (Church) to all the sinners that are gathered at the GWT when all their punishment periods come to an end. God offers them a drink of the same water that the ones who were alive for the 1,000 years got. For them it was being resurrected in the land of Israel if you were a member of the 12 Tribes and then walking to the river in Eze:47 and Jeremiah 31. That is how they get the glorification that Jesus got between dawn and later that same day. For the Church they walk there starting after Israel is fully resurrected, evening the same day it starts. That could be the extension in some numbers given in Daniel. Without checking the 1335 might be the number of days that takes after the 1260 days of tribulation takes. The other one that is 'off is the 1290 days and that extra 30 days should belong to before the 1260 days of tribulation takes. In that 30 days the sealing of 144,000 and some repented Gentiles takes place and the 1st 4 trumps will unfold.

Not a whole lot to back that up as they are straggler verses. Like the dating in Isa:65 and the 120 years from Genesis 6, together they relay some 'possible' knowledge, separated they mean very little.
 Quoting: MHz

as soon as I saw about the man of sin on a throne i gave up.
TELL ME THIS PLEASE!the Holy Bible says the HUMAN BODY is the TEMPLE so why do you ALL say that the temple that the man of sin sits in is NOT a human body.Secondly the Holy Bible says CLEARLY that Jesus became a CURSE that HE bore sin IN HIS BODY that HE was DECREED by God to be sin and if you actually read it you will see many more references so PLEASE tell me why you think the MAN OF SIN is satan when in fact it is JESUS!Why do you twist Scripture and then say I twist it?READ Zech3.that is about Jesus in the paroussia in the 2nd coming.When He wore filthy garments.He was the man of sin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


Jesus bore the burden of our sins by providing the ransom sacrifice. To simplify this (I hope) read the following prophesy of the Man of Lawnessness, the pope:

"Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things?
6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness." 2Thes2
 
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