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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6822546 Argentina 03/17/2013 06:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the people from a third world country didn't burn the banks or killed any bankster after been totally robbed by them , what will stop them to rob all europe or the US? Where the laws are stronger than anywhere and you can go to jail with only a suspicious of you wil do something wrong.... Take all the money out of the banks! |
Relativity User ID: 1533848 United States 03/17/2013 06:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Planning 21st Century theft is fairly straightforward. The speed and interconnectivity of a digital society means that the theft itself can be executed by The State and its private sector actors flawlessly and quickly. Quoting: CrazyEyesThreadKilla The difficulty is in predicting the reaction. TPTB still have a difficult time predicting how the general public will react to certain events. They have improved their predictive capability immensely, but as their understanding is inevitably colored by their own prejudices, they are continuously surprised. Digits and systems are 100% predictable for the most part. Humans are not. And that's why trial runs are necessary. Only through trial runs can group behavior be tested. This leads to refinements in the messaging that accompanies the event. 9/11 is the classic case. Within an hour of the event, the media was mentioning the name OBL, even though it would have naturally been impossible to make those accusations so early. Previous terrorism experiences (WTC I) and research indicated that naming the bad guy while the audience was still reeling from the shock of the trauma reduced resistance to the idea versus making the connection later. MF Global was a test run. Vaporizing depositors was the easy part. The question was one of reactions. The reaction was muted - more so than was expected, even considering the success of efforts to a) present the incident as incredibly confusing b) name a scapegoat to blame c) ignore the stories of personal distress caused to the vaporizees. When the next take down takes place, of a magnitude larger in size, you will notice the same themes emerge. Cyprus is also a test run. It is the first attempt at wholesale theft from the depositor class, and while the test bed is a country small enough to avoid contagion, it is still a remarkably bold theft. Again, as usual, the State and its actors moved swiftly, but they will be using the next week to gauge reactions - levels of anger, bank runs, any contagion effects. If the people can be placated and the theft executed without too much discomfort applied to TPTB class, expect a larger theft in 2014. TPTB may have learned far too well the lesson that the general populace can be easily placated. Personally, I expect they will get something of a surprise from this test run and will be wrestling with a much more pronounced global reaction than they expected. I dont think anyone is going to put up with this shit any longer. Test run will fail. It has begun. “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 428255 Bulgaria 03/17/2013 06:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Except every country/nation is unique+there will be a snowballing effect. If you only take Cyprus, there may not be anything excessive. However, too many people from the rest of the EU will hear about the robbery and get pissed off. They, when it happens to more countries, it will only take one country to seriously riot and the rest will follow. Just like the fall of the Berlin wall. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1764289 United Kingdom 03/17/2013 07:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Antichrist was in Greece, then in Italy, then in Portagul, then in Spain and now in Cyprus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1764289 Can't you see?, the Euro are nothing but troubled since it was formed by the Antichrist. U mean anti-christ is a money chomper? Just a moneys chompers?. HE IS EVERYTHING OPPOSITE TO CHRIST. HE WkILL FAR SURPASSES ALL OTHER ANTICHRIST's BEFORE HIM AND FOR THAT HE WILL DO WHAT HITLER FAILED TO DO AND WORSE. Hint: By fooling many an allied and made them fight against each other and instead of what Hitler had done by declaring WAR against Russia.. .. He will allied with Rissuia instead and used them as Hitler should had DONE. This Anti-Christ will be on EVERYONE LIPS unlike HISTER. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22845396 United States 03/17/2013 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This theft takes many forms. Hidden taxes, inflation, gold manipulation/confiscation, market and housing "bubbles" are all planned and executed by the same people who are stealing your money. However, if you read the fine print on any bank account agreement, the bank owns any money you choose to give to them. Solution? Don't give them your money. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36232401 United Kingdom 03/17/2013 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We were the guinea pigs ten years ago! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6822546 If the people from a third world country didn't burn the banks or killed any bankster after been totally robbed by them , what will stop them to rob all europe or the US? Where the laws are stronger than anywhere and you can go to jail with only a suspicious of you wil do something wrong.... Take all the money out of the banks! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS all day long ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
Organic Light User ID: 8545334 United States 03/17/2013 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Authority=Archon control We have given our power away to a system. People who still believe in the system need a kick'n de arse. Last Edited by Arete11 on 03/17/2013 08:42 AM Untroubled, Scornful, Outrageous-That is how Wisdom wants us to be! White Genocide: 1900AD @ 35% - Today less than 8% of the earth's population Sophia's Correction |
hominid User ID: 36075939 Slovakia 03/17/2013 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Planning 21st Century theft is fairly straightforward. The speed and interconnectivity of a digital society means that the theft itself can be executed by The State and its private sector actors flawlessly and quickly. Quoting: CrazyEyesThreadKilla ... i like your logical thinking, connecting things. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 961432 United States 03/17/2013 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's called moral hazard OP. Where do you think most of the credit generated in the past 4-5 years has gone? It has gone into banks from the federal reserve interbank lending (at close to zero percent interest) or from Obamaco's deficit spending. Total about $10 trillion or so. Then that credit has been used to bid up stocks. The banks profit when the stocks they bought rise in value and they can sell it, banks hold stocks for less than 12 seconds, so incrementally over time they make a little bit each time. The profits are theirs, but the debt remains, the original credit they used to bid up the stocks. But when it all crashes the banks learned back in 2008 they can pass those losses back off onto the public treasury via bailouts. But they will keep the gains they made over that time period, and especially the gains they make when they sell out completely at the peak of the market. This has happened since all the money we use for transactions goes through the banking system. They have a complete monopoly on money. That was the original moral hazard allowing banks to have a monopoly on money creation via the public debt. But I'm glad some of you are waking up. . |
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Buck Zander User ID: 26745463 Canada 03/17/2013 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont think anyone is going to put up with this shit any longer. Test run will fail. It has begun. Quoting: Relativity History is proving otherwise. While people are becoming increasingly more vocal, both online and on the street, the end result is just that - more empty vocalisation. Shout all they want, what is being perpetrated on them, against them, remains. TPTB can stand a little ear bleeding, as long as their overall agenda bears fruition. There must be a law that people can't lie. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36342867 Brazil 03/17/2013 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What does OP mean by "The reaction was muted - more so than was expected, even considering the success of efforts to a) present the incident as incredibly confusing b) name a scapegoat to blame c) ignore the stories of personal distress caused to the vaporizees. " ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36103950 United States 03/17/2013 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This theft takes many forms. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22845396 Hidden taxes, inflation, gold manipulation/confiscation, market and housing "bubbles" are all planned and executed by the same people who are stealing your money. However, if you read the fine print on any bank account agreement, the bank owns any money you choose to give to them. Solution? Don't give them your money. This |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35984397 United States 03/17/2013 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Planning 21st Century theft is fairly straightforward. The speed and interconnectivity of a digital society means that the theft itself can be executed by The State and its private sector actors flawlessly and quickly. Quoting: CrazyEyesThreadKilla The difficulty is in predicting the reaction. TPTB still have a difficult time predicting how the general public will react to certain events. They have improved their predictive capability immensely, but as their understanding is inevitably colored by their own prejudices, they are continuously surprised. Digits and systems are 100% predictable for the most part. Humans are not. And that's why trial runs are necessary. Only through trial runs can group behavior be tested. This leads to refinements in the messaging that accompanies the event. 9/11 is the classic case. Within an hour of the event, the media was mentioning the name OBL, even though it would have naturally been impossible to make those accusations so early. Previous terrorism experiences (WTC I) and research indicated that naming the bad guy while the audience was still reeling from the shock of the trauma reduced resistance to the idea versus making the connection later. MF Global was a test run. Vaporizing depositors was the easy part. The question was one of reactions. The reaction was muted - more so than was expected, even considering the success of efforts to a) present the incident as incredibly confusing b) name a scapegoat to blame c) ignore the stories of personal distress caused to the vaporizees. When the next take down takes place, of a magnitude larger in size, you will notice the same themes emerge. Cyprus is also a test run. It is the first attempt at wholesale theft from the depositor class, and while the test bed is a country small enough to avoid contagion, it is still a remarkably bold theft. Again, as usual, the State and its actors moved swiftly, but they will be using the next week to gauge reactions - levels of anger, bank runs, any contagion effects. If the people can be placated and the theft executed without too much discomfort applied to TPTB class, expect a larger theft in 2014. TPTB may have learned far too well the lesson that the general populace can be easily placated. Personally, I expect they will get something of a surprise from this test run and will be wrestling with a much more pronounced global reaction than they expected. say cuzzz |