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McCain and the POW Cover-Up- Great Read

 
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03/16/2013 06:05 PM
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McCain and the POW Cover-Up- Great Read
This is a great investigative article regarding McCain and his role in covering up POW's and MIA's abandoned in Vietnam after the war was over.

It really makes you wonder how much he knows, and if he was truly complicit in this cover-up. It sure as hell made me look at him in a different light. Fairly long article though.

"An early and critical McCain secrecy move involved 1990 legislation that started in the House of Representatives. A brief and simple document, it was called “the Truth Bill” and would have compelled complete transparency about prisoners and missing men. Its core sentence reads: “[The] head of each department or agency which holds or receives any records and information, including live-sighting reports, which have been correlated or possibly correlated to United States personnel listed as prisoner of war or missing in action from World War II, the Korean conflict and the Vietnam conflict, shall make available to the public all such records held or received by that department or agency.”

Bitterly opposed by the Pentagon (and thus McCain), the bill went nowhere. Reintroduced the following year, it again disappeared. But a few months later, a new measure, known as “the McCain Bill,”suddenly appeared. By creating a bureaucratic maze from which only a fraction of the documents could emerge—only records that revealed no POW secrets—it turned the Truth Bill on its head. The McCain bill became law in 1991 and remains so today. So crushing to transparency are its provisions that it actually spells out for the Pentagon and other agencies several rationales, scenarios, and justifications for not releasing any information at all—even about prisoners discovered alive in captivity. Later that year, the Senate Select Committee was created, where Kerry and McCain ultimately worked together to bury evidence."


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03/16/2013 06:10 PM
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03/16/2013 06:11 PM
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Re: McCain and the POW Cover-Up- Great Read
It has been suggested by some that while McCain was a POW, he was a shithouse rat informer of the gooks. Naturally it would not be advantageous to McCain to have any records from that era ever see the light of day.

I'm sure McCain's fellow POWs were debriefed when they got back to the states. I'm sure they told the stories about him. I'm sure the stories were written down. That was McCain covering his own ass.
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03/16/2013 06:15 PM
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PRELUDE: Please close your eyes and picture in your mind a man who is between 45 and 65 years of age. He is sick, suffering from malnutrition, and is poorly clothed. With trembling hands he clutches the window bars of a bare and dirty prison cell. He is looking toward the sky as he speaks to his father in heaven:
I am an American fighting man.
I love my country, the people of my country and am proud to serve her.
My country called me and I went.

I am an American fighting man.
I took training to learn to be an American fighting man.
My country needed me and I went.

I am an American fighting man.
I was sent to a country far away from my home to fight
for the freedom of the people of that country.
My country needed me and I went.

I am an American fighting man.
I fought in the jungles of Vietnam, I watched my buddies die.
My country needed me and I went.

I am an American fighting man.
My fellow countrymen spat upon me, called me a baby killer
and dishonored me and my fellow fighting men.
My country needed me and I went.

I am an American fighting man.
I served my country with dignity and honor and was proud to serve.
My country needed me and I went.

I am an American fighting man.
I was captured by the enemy and made a prisoner.
My country needed me and I went.

I am an American fighting man.
I was humiliated, tortured, beaten and called a war criminal.
My country needed me and I went.

I am an American fighting man.
I kept faith; I served with dignity and honor.
My country and her fighting men will come to get me.
My country needed me and I went.

I am an American fighting man.
I have given my country all that I have, but my life.
It has been twenty years since I went.
My country and my fellow countrymen have forgotten me.
I will never see my home and my loved ones again.
My country doesn't need me now.
My country needed me and I went.

I am an American fighting man.
I served my country with honor, I fought, I was captured,
I have given all that I have, but my life.
My country and my fellow countrymen have forgotten me.
I will give my life alone and forgotten, because my country needed me and I went.

MAY GOD BLESS OUR POW/MIA's.
We are a REPUBLIC.If we can keep it MORAN!
A pissed off American Veteran!
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03/16/2013 06:48 PM
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Re: McCain and the POW Cover-Up- Great Read
This is a great investigative article regarding McCain and his role in covering up POW's and MIA's abandoned in Vietnam after the war was over.

It really makes you wonder how much he knows, and if he was truly complicit in this cover-up. It sure as hell made me look at him in a different light. Fairly long article though.

"An early and critical McCain secrecy move involved 1990 legislation that started in the House of Representatives. A brief and simple document, it was called “the Truth Bill” and would have compelled complete transparency about prisoners and missing men. Its core sentence reads: “[The] head of each department or agency which holds or receives any records and information, including live-sighting reports, which have been correlated or possibly correlated to United States personnel listed as prisoner of war or missing in action from World War II, the Korean conflict and the Vietnam conflict, shall make available to the public all such records held or received by that department or agency.”

Bitterly opposed by the Pentagon (and thus McCain), the bill went nowhere. Reintroduced the following year, it again disappeared. But a few months later, a new measure, known as “the McCain Bill,”suddenly appeared. By creating a bureaucratic maze from which only a fraction of the documents could emerge—only records that revealed no POW secrets—it turned the Truth Bill on its head. The McCain bill became law in 1991 and remains so today. So crushing to transparency are its provisions that it actually spells out for the Pentagon and other agencies several rationales, scenarios, and justifications for not releasing any information at all—even about prisoners discovered alive in captivity. Later that year, the Senate Select Committee was created, where Kerry and McCain ultimately worked together to bury evidence."


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I attended a meeting of a "motivational speaker" who had been a prisoner in the Hanoi hotel with McCain.
He had a lot of praise and respect and interesting stories about his interactions and experiences with his fellow prisoners there.
Someone in the audience asked him to tell us anything about any experiences relating to McCain in the Hanoi hotel.
He replied " I cannot comment on that." When asked if he would vote for him, he replied, "I cannot comment on that."
Enough said!... especially after the praise he had lavished on his fellow heroes.
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03/17/2013 02:39 PM
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After reading this again there is no doubt that McCain is trying to hide something personal.

A POW who breaks after horrible physical and mental torture is totally understandable. He is only human after all, and I'm sure there are very few people who could withstand that type of punishment. They should be commended for everything they went through trying too protect their country.

But, a person who has gone through that type of torture personally should be especially motivated to save those who are still suffering.

It is public knowledge that they broke him while he was being held. He talked. That is not a secret. So what is he trying to hide?

The question is, why would McCain do everything he could not to save these men when he knows what they are going through?


This is reprehensible.





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