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Meh... the whole idea relies on counter space.

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interesting...

what happens when all becomes perfect?

i loosely was having this conversation w/myself last night, but it was in the context of 'getting through, making it through to the other side' in pursuit of perfection...there will always be infinite sides to go to...

wonder what happens if and when we reach perfection...
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define perfection.
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balance

The problem is everything in the physical universe is always oscillating, so perfection is unattainable in any lasting way.
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Perfection cannot exist. Anything that is perfect is immediately complete, finished and ceases to exist. Existence is always in motion.
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define perfection.
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balance

The problem is everything in the physical universe is always oscillating, so perfection is unattainable in any lasting way.
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Perfection cannot exist. Anything that is perfect is immediately complete, finished and ceases to exist. Existence is always in motion.
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clappa
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Nonsense. Sorry Sept.
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balance

The problem is everything in the physical universe is always oscillating, so perfection is unattainable in any lasting way.
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Perfection cannot exist. Anything that is perfect is immediately complete, finished and ceases to exist. Existence is always in motion.
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clappa
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Nonsense. Sorry Sept.
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No worries.

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good stuff it has always been understood by me the sun is the backside of a black hole from our perspective, our sun is the other side of the event horizon...
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good stuff it has always been understood by me the sun is the backside of a black hole from our perspective, our sun is the other side of the event horizon...
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At 13 min it gets good.
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Nice...thanks SS...

I've been wondering where your "teaching" threads have been...I've had to go to your website and re-read "The Coming Celestial Convergence" to get my fix...

This info is much easier for me to comprehend, you really do have a knack for explaining (teaching me) these subjects...

I understand the "much needed break" it seems like everyone around me is losing their shit...it's all I can do to NOT get caught up/sucked into their drama/superficial problems...

At any rate, I do appreciate you taking the time to think these things out and formulate a thread that I can comprehend :)

Much LOVE your way...
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My brain hurts.
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I got lost at the 'make a perfect dot' part...

I need to know how one creates an imperfect dot first before I can resume my analysis.

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balance

The problem is everything in the physical universe is always oscillating, so perfection is unattainable in any lasting way.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Perfection cannot exist. Anything that is perfect is immediately complete, finished and ceases to exist. Existence is always in motion.
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clappa
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Nonsense. Sorry Sept.
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You are incredibly naive....

Perfection does not exist, nor will it exist until existence itself is complete.

The essence of life is evolution; a quality of perfecting certainly, but "perfection?", its delusion.

One can certainly attain balance, even in certain cases, a lasting balance, but that a labor of the heart.


The truth is, that as long as we are here, the paradox will manifest, nothing you can say or will say is true without paying homage to its inversion.

"Space is always changing, ever moving, never standing perfectly still. Energy and Matter are the same."


So I say, space is never changing, immutable, universal, and always centered upon itself.
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I wanted to ask what your thoughts were on different dimensions...

I was watching a documentary the other day about dimensions and someone stated that gravity is a fairly weak force when you compare to magnetic force...the lady basically said that the reason for this is because gravity is being "leaked" to other dimensions...

Not sure I'm am explaining correctly and of course I had no luck trying to remember which show, or even if the documentary was on the "interwebs" or the idiot box...I'm like a sponge lately...absorbing any & all info I am interested in...
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Nice...thanks SS...

I've been wondering where your "teaching" threads have been...I've had to go to your website and re-read "The Coming Celestial Convergence" to get my fix...

This info is much easier for me to comprehend, you really do have a knack for explaining (teaching me) these subjects...

I understand the "much needed break" it seems like everyone around me is losing their shit...it's all I can do to NOT get caught up/sucked into their drama/superficial problems...

At any rate, I do appreciate you taking the time to think these things out and formulate a thread that I can comprehend :)

Much LOVE your way...
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Thank you Heather!

We were discussing what you said in bold above just yesterday.
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My brain hurts.
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I got lost at the 'make a perfect dot' part...

I need to know how one creates an imperfect dot first before I can resume my analysis.

charlie
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churchlady
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Perfection cannot exist. Anything that is perfect is immediately complete, finished and ceases to exist. Existence is always in motion.
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clappa
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Nonsense. Sorry Sept.
 Quoting: Penultimate


You are incredibly naive....

Perfection does not exist, nor will it exist until existence itself is complete.

The essence of life is evolution; a quality of perfecting certainly, but "perfection?", its delusion.

One can certainly attain balance, even in certain cases, a lasting balance, but that a labor of the heart.


The truth is, that as long as we are here, the paradox will manifest, nothing you can say or will say is true without paying homage to its inversion.

"Space is always changing, ever moving, never standing perfectly still. Energy and Matter are the same."


So I say, space is never changing, immutable, universal, and always centered upon itself.
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I like to call it 'perfect imperfection'.
"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
~Calvin & Hobbs~
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No my friend. there're is more to eternal existence than you know. Call it what you like. I am far from naïve.

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No my friend. there're is more to eternal existence than you know.

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Sorry double post.
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My brain hurts.
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I got lost at the 'make a perfect dot' part...

I need to know how one creates an imperfect dot first before I can resume my analysis.

charlie
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churchlady
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By dot do you mean like pressing the tip of a sharpie straight down on a piece of paper?

I'm not good with words to visuals.... Need a YouTube animation/presentation!

tomato

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I wanted to ask what your thoughts were on different dimensions...

I was watching a documentary the other day about dimensions and someone stated that gravity is a fairly weak force when you compare to magnetic force...the lady basically said that the reason for this is because gravity is being "leaked" to other dimensions...

Not sure I'm am explaining correctly and of course I had no luck trying to remember which show, or even if the documentary was on the "interwebs" or the idiot box...I'm like a sponge lately...absorbing any & all info I am interested in...
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Other dimensions is a tough one, as it can only be speculated upon. But, one of my thoughts on this is that there is only one material universe. The material universe is where all potentials and probabilities converge and manifest.

My thought is that there are no parallel (material) realities, etc. There is only one physical/material universe. Anything else is part of the dimensions of the non-material (consciousness).

Gravity is very weak in comparison to magnetic force. Magnetic force is many magnitudes stronger than gravity.
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consider the circle
put a dot in the exact middle
draw a near infinite number of lines from the dot to the edge
now
each one of those points
where the lines meet the circle
is a created soul/spirt/mind/heart/life
and each one has its path
back to the center
bringing its experiences along the way
back with it
the return journey
is one of perfection
and so
God gets to experience Himself
as perfect
and
as becoming perfect.....
a neat thing to be able to do
to be sure...........

"Be Ye Perfect Even As I, Your Father Creator, Am Perfect."

It is a mandate..............

Our purpose
is to be just like God
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Predestination. I knew you from before the world was formed.
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Thanks for your quick response...

I will ponder on this for awhile...

You have yourself a great day :)
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Thanks for your quick response...

I will ponder on this for awhile...

You have yourself a great day :)
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Will do!
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interesting...

what happens when all becomes perfect?

i loosely was having this conversation w/myself last night, but it was in the context of 'getting through, making it through to the other side' in pursuit of perfection...there will always be infinite sides to go to...

wonder what happens if and when we reach perfection...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1137351


define perfection.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1137351


balance

The problem is everything in the physical universe is always oscillating, so perfection is unattainable in any lasting way.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Perfection cannot exist. Anything that is perfect is immediately complete, finished and ceases to exist. Existence is always in motion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37854496


Maybe perfection is not worrying about the balance. Rather, "letting go of the reigns" and using intuition to and flow with the patterns of the universe creating harmony.

Cool thread man.

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In this thread, I suggest that the 'positive' (perfection) is the fulcrum, with imbalance (negative) being the 'swings' around the fulcrum.

It's kind of long. I just posted the entire OP of it.

Thread: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion
God is consciousness. Consciousness is static. Consciousness is the KNOWING of mind. Knowing is static.

Consciousness is the spiritual awareness of Being, of all-knowing, all-power and all-presence.

Thinking is electric.

God's thinking is expressed by two-way moving wave extensions from consciousness, like a lever swinging up on a fixed fulcrum, or like waves extending from the calm sea. Thought expression is dynamic. Thinking belongs to the electrically sensed and conditioned vibrating universe of motion.

The Self of man belongs to the static , invisible, conscious, unconditional universe of KNOWING. We express knowing in the dynamic, visible, electrically conditioned universe of sensation.

Sensation is the electrical awareness of motion simulating the spiritual QUALITIES of the One Idea by creating image QUANTITIES of separate forms which seem to have substance.

Consciousness is real. Sensation simulates reality through motion of interchanging lights, but the mirage of a city is not the city it reflects.


~Walter Russell, The Secret of Light
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I'm reading Walter Russell's The Secret of Light, and something smacked me upside the head. It has to do with balance.

In a dualistic concept we think of positive/negative being just that. On one side there is positive, and the other negative. Balance is strived for between the two.

That is incorrect, and this idea has radically changed my thought form concerning this, as I could not see how there was actual balance between this, except for mathematically.

Instead, let us think of it the way Walter Russell thought of it. Pure balance is positive. Negative is on either side of positive. So, the further away you swing to extremities, or the further out of balance things are, the further away from the positive nature of the universe.

OK, here is Russell's words:

The Positive Principle

The foundation of the spiritual universe is stillness; the balanced stillness of the One magnetic Light of God.

Balanced stillness is the Positive Principle of stability and unity. In it there are no negations.

The Negative Principle

The foundation of the physical universe is motion; the ever-changing motion arising out of the pairs of unbalanced conditions which must forever move to seek the balanced stillness of unity from which they sprang as multiple [airs of units.

Unbalanced motion is the Negative Principle of instability, multiplicity, and separateness which is this physical universe of electric octave waves of opposed lights.


Walter Russell viewed the positive as GodLike. The negative as material reality. Not to be mistaken with good/evil. That is man made. But, the pure stillness of the positive, which everything moves around, is the gateway to God...to our spirits...to the non-material.

He viewed material manifestation as the convergence of two lights. Remember the twin opposing vortices. Well, they are light, and where they overlap, is where perceptual physical reality resides. When we think of the vortices as gradations within their own fields, then we can visualize complexity arising within the convergence of light gradations.

All of this in motion from two 'light fields', or our electric charge field and magnetic charge field. With the light containing the motion, pulling mass into dimension through movement, from the dimensionless stillness of what Russell thought of as God.

Seeing the invisible that is right in front of us.

This is summarized, so there will be some details that are not presented 100% accurately. But, I am looking at the structure of how we view dualistic properties.

Basically, we look at it as positive/negative, with balance somewhere between.

Instead, look at positive as the fulcrum point, with negative out to either side of the fulcrum point. The closer to the fulcrum point (balance) the closer to positive aspects of the universe. The further out the swing, the more imbalance with that system; and thus, the further from positive attributes.

I am not discounting either value of positive/negative within the manifested reality of matter. Instead, I am viewing it with the positive condition of the universe being the fulcrum point, with imbalance being the negative.

It has often been declared that the human mind could never comprehend God. That statement has been based upon the assumption that the reason we could never comprehend God is that our senses could not detect God.

It is true that we cannot see God but we can KNOW Him. And therein is the essence of New Age thinking. The next hundred years will see as great a spiritual advance in the culture of our civilization as it has seen physically during the past hundred years. That which we cannot see, we can KNOW. We can see the bodies of men but we cannot see man, for the supreme Being within man is invisible. He cannot be seen. He can only be known. For the same reason we cannot see God but we can know Him, and we can know the nature of God by knowing His laws and creative processes.

[link to www.walter-russell.de]

In revelation of what he terms “natural science,” Russell presents a two-way, magnetic-electric thought-wave universe, cyclic in nature and eternally “creating,” as opposed to the “created, expanding, entropic universe” of current science.

Russell’s philosophy of the science of Being, the invisible world of Cause—the nature of consciousness, knowing, thinking, sensing, inspiration, intuition, energy, and the creative process—and the science of Expressed Being, the visible world of Effect—the nature of light, the wave structure of universal creation, the creation of the elements that make up our visible world, and the cycle nature of life and death— are proven a unified continuum.

[link to www.philosophy.org]
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one of my favorite pictures in my archive.

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some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend. just what you want to be, you will be in the end!

if you can't face the truth it's probably raping you from behind.
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