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Jacques de Molay, Grand Master of the Knights Templar, when he was burnt at the stake

 
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Jacques de Molay, Grand Master of the Knights Templar, when he was burnt at the stake
Jacques de Molay, Grand Master of the Knights Templar, was condemned to death by the French king Philip IV as he was jealous of the Templars' power and wealth...

On 18th March 1314, before being burnt at the stake, De Molay declared:

"We die innocent.
But only in Heaven there is a judge before whom the feeble will never appeal without being heard.
Before this judge I call the Pope within 40 days, and you Philip, I expect within one year."
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Re: Jacques de Molay, Grand Master of the Knights Templar, when he was burnt at the stake
So you are saying that he prophesied the death of the pope in 40 days and the death of the king in a year? Did it come true? (haven't researched it)
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Yes, it did, but there are more interesting prophecies which are about to unfold.
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Yes, Jacques de Molay "prophecied" that the Pope, Clement V, and the King of France, Philip IV, would be dead within the year. And they were. If I recall correctly, the king died in a "hunting accident". Can't recall how the Pope succombed.

Keep in mind that there were Knights Templar incognito interspersed throughout the crowd that gathered to view Jacques de Molay's (and Geoffrey de Charnay's) burning at the stake that late afternoon on the ile de Cite on the Seine River in Paris. In other words, de Molay's words weren't so much prophecy, as they were his last wishes/commandment to his fellow Templars before he was consigned to the flames.

By the way, de Molay and Charney weren't killed quickly. It wasn't so much flames, as it was a slow roast over searingly hot coals which melted the flesh off the bone.
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OH. Well, keep us in suspense until you feel like telling us about them.
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Re: Jacques de Molay, Grand Master of the Knights Templar, when he was burnt at the stake
So you are saying that he prophesied the death of the pope in 40 days and the death of the king in a year? Did it come true? (haven't researched it)
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Neither did I, to be honest.
But the deed committed by Philip IV is without doubt one of the highest baseness. The true reason was he wanted that famed Templars' treasure. And I don't think De Molay was guilty of the charges proferred against him. Under torture you'd confess anything, that's a well known fact. At the end they just wanted to get rid of him as he was retracting was he had "confessed" before (several times, if I am not mistaken). And he was not the only victim. The Templars were more or less disbanded by the king.

People don't change that much, do they ? Even a thousand years later.
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Yes, it did, but there are more interesting prophecies which are about to unfold.
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So it did, you say ?
This kind of proves he did tell the truth, doesn't it ?
It's almost as if God Himself confirmed it...
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Yes, it did, but there are more interesting prophecies which are about to unfold.
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Please explain these prophecies.
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Yes, it did, but there are more interesting prophecies which are about to unfold.
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Please explain these prophecies.
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this^
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read the thread for all u tards who are like explain prophesy pls.
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Yes, Jacques de Molay "prophecied" that the Pope, Clement V, and the King of France, Philip IV, would be dead within the year. And they were. If I recall correctly, the king died in a "hunting accident". Can't recall how the Pope succombed.

Keep in mind that there were Knights Templar incognito interspersed throughout the crowd that gathered to view Jacques de Molay's (and Geoffrey de Charnay's) burning at the stake that late afternoon on the ile de Cite on the Seine River in Paris. In other words, de Molay's words weren't so much prophecy, as they were his last wishes/commandment to his fellow Templars before he was consigned to the flames.

By the way, de Molay and Charney weren't killed quickly. It wasn't so much flames, as it was a slow roast over searingly hot coals which melted the flesh off the bone.
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Re: Jacques de Molay, Grand Master of the Knights Templar, when he was burnt at the stake
Yes, Jacques de Molay "prophecied" that the Pope, Clement V, and the King of France, Philip IV, would be dead within the year. And they were. If I recall correctly, the king died in a "hunting accident". Can't recall how the Pope succombed.

Keep in mind that there were Knights Templar incognito interspersed throughout the crowd that gathered to view Jacques de Molay's (and Geoffrey de Charnay's) burning at the stake that late afternoon on the ile de Cite on the Seine River in Paris. In other words, de Molay's words weren't so much prophecy, as they were his last wishes/commandment to his fellow Templars before he was consigned to the flames.

By the way, de Molay and Charney weren't killed quickly. It wasn't so much flames, as it was a slow roast over searingly hot coals which melted the flesh off the bone.
 Quoting: Jacquestrap de Molay 34438955

So, you think De Molay, though he knew these were his last moments, was intentionally giving instructions to his followers to kill the king and the pope ?

This is not impossible, but I have doubts. I you knew you had just a few more moments to live, would you do efforts to exact revenge upon those who are responsible for your death ?
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Re: Jacques de Molay, Grand Master of the Knights Templar, when he was burnt at the stake
Yes, Jacques de Molay "prophecied" that the Pope, Clement V, and the King of France, Philip IV, would be dead within the year. And they were. If I recall correctly, the king died in a "hunting accident". Can't recall how the Pope succombed.

Keep in mind that there were Knights Templar incognito interspersed throughout the crowd that gathered to view Jacques de Molay's (and Geoffrey de Charnay's) burning at the stake that late afternoon on the ile de Cite on the Seine River in Paris. In other words, de Molay's words weren't so much prophecy, as they were his last wishes/commandment to his fellow Templars before he was consigned to the flames.

By the way, de Molay and Charney weren't killed quickly. It wasn't so much flames, as it was a slow roast over searingly hot coals which melted the flesh off the bone.
 Quoting: Jacquestrap de Molay 34438955

So, you think De Molay, though he knew these were his last moments, was intentionally giving instructions to his followers to kill the king and the pope ?

This is not impossible, but I have doubts. I you knew you had just a few more moments to live, would you do efforts to exact revenge upon those who are responsible for your death ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41064744


Absolutely. Without a doubt. And they did.
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Yes, Jacques de Molay "prophecied" that the Pope, Clement V, and the King of France, Philip IV, would be dead within the year. And they were. If I recall correctly, the king died in a "hunting accident". Can't recall how the Pope succombed.

Keep in mind that there were Knights Templar incognito interspersed throughout the crowd that gathered to view Jacques de Molay's (and Geoffrey de Charnay's) burning at the stake that late afternoon on the ile de Cite on the Seine River in Paris. In other words, de Molay's words weren't so much prophecy, as they were his last wishes/commandment to his fellow Templars before he was consigned to the flames.

By the way, de Molay and Charney weren't killed quickly. It wasn't so much flames, as it was a slow roast over searingly hot coals which melted the flesh off the bone.
 Quoting: Jacquestrap de Molay 34438955

So, you think De Molay, though he knew these were his last moments, was intentionally giving instructions to his followers to kill the king and the pope ?

This is not impossible, but I have doubts. If you knew you had just a few more moments to live, would you do efforts to exact revenge upon those who are responsible for your death ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41064744

Do you have a better idea what he should’ve proclaimed in his last moments before an excruciating death?
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Re: Jacques de Molay, Grand Master of the Knights Templar, when he was burnt at the stake
Jacques de Molay, Grand Master of the Knights Templar, was condemned to death by the French king Philip IV as he was jealous of the Templars' power and wealth...

On 18th March 1314, before being burnt at the stake, De Molay declared:

"We die innocent.
But only in Heaven there is a judge before whom the feeble will never appeal without being heard.
Before this judge I call the Pope within 40 days, and you Philip, I expect within one year."
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Uhm…. your point? Give me the executive summary.
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Re: Jacques de Molay, Grand Master of the Knights Templar, when he was burnt at the stake
Literally told them to kill them.
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Present day DeMolay org. is part of the satanic freemason pedo underworld. Ask Walt Disney and many others.
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Re: Jacques de Molay, Grand Master of the Knights Templar, when he was burnt at the stake
he wasn't burned bc of jealousy.
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Re: Jacques de Molay, Grand Master of the Knights Templar, when he was burnt at the stake
Rubbish
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Re: Jacques de Molay, Grand Master of the Knights Templar, when he was burnt at the stake
Friday the 13th...
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Re: Jacques de Molay, Grand Master of the Knights Templar, when he was burnt at the stake
He was the second messiah imaged forever on the shroud of Turin.





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