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When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?

 
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When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
Something that struck me as odd were the extreme variations in the death toll from the Oklahoma tornado yesterday. I was watching MSM coverage and switched over the a local OK news stream while dozing off.

The anchors on the local station were speaking to the local medical examiner who said they had 51 bodies (20 children) at the morgue and were expecting another 40 bodies to be delivered. So at around 12:20am PST there was a death toll given of 91. About 5 minutes after that report the local feed went dead. (Not to static, but to a tones and bars like the signal went down or was cut.)

When I awoke this morning the media was now reporting that there were 24 fatalities attributed to the tornado. Thats a difference of close to 70 bodies. They also seemed to be very careful in releasing death toll figures, I believe official death toll reports were given to the media at 3 different times during the night (as more and more bodies were found).

How could the medical examiner made such a mistake? I believe I also heard the governor of the state claim there were 51 dead while on a telephone interview with CNN around 11:30 pm PST.

If this was a "erroneous" statistic why was it reported by the state and local medical examiner numerous times and then redacted?

The whole thing strikes me as odd...anyone else?

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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
Didja want it to be more?
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
What sickened me was when NBC said the today show will be on site in Moore, ok. Why send them there, let them people rebuild and not have the cast of the today show faking they are concerned.
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They claimed they double counted bodies by mistake, 'cause they are the type of people who need instructions for how to use a blanket...or they are just dividing by ten at this point.
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
It's called a disaster. Double-reporting, etc. No one has their shit together despite all appearances.
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
They claimed they double counted bodies by mistake, 'cause they are the type of people who need instructions for how to use a blanket...or they are just dividing by ten at this point.
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"Officials in Oklahoma have revised to 24 the number of bodies recovered after a tornado devastated the town of Moore, Oklahoma. Earlier, 51 people were reported killed. Officials attributed the higher number to counting bodies twice in the chaos following the storm that struck late Monday."

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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
They claimed they double counted bodies by mistake, 'cause they are the type of people who need instructions for how to use a blanket...or they are just dividing by ten at this point.
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"Officials in Oklahoma have revised to 24 the number of bodies recovered after a tornado devastated the town of Moore, Oklahoma. Earlier, 51 people were reported killed. Officials attributed the higher number to counting bodies twice in the chaos following the storm that struck late Monday."

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Can't even double count correctly, apparently. Guess a few were triple counted.
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
Something that struck me as odd were the extreme variations in the death toll from the Oklahoma tornado yesterday. I was watching MSM coverage and switched over the a local OK news stream while dozing off.

The anchors on the local station were speaking to the local medical examiner who said they had 51 bodies (20 children) at the morgue and were expecting another 40 bodies to be delivered. So at around 12:20am PST there was a death toll given of 91. About 5 minutes after that report the local feed went dead. (Not to static, but to a tones and bars like the signal went down or was cut.)

When I awoke this morning the media was now reporting that there were 24 fatalities attributed to the tornado. Thats a difference of close to 70 bodies. They also seemed to be very careful in releasing death toll figures, I believe official death toll reports were given to the media at 3 different times during the night (as more and more bodies were found).

How could the medical examiner made such a mistake? I believe I also heard the governor of the state claim there were 51 dead while on a telephone interview with CNN around 11:30 pm PST.

If this was a "erroneous" statistic why was it reported by the state and local medical examiner numerous times and then redacted?

The whole thing strikes me as odd...anyone else?

[link to fox43.com]
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You thinking it was a hoax or something?
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It was 51 then to 24 cause they double counted, issues with communications etc right after the storm... no conspiracy fools...
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
Something that struck me as odd were the extreme variations in the death toll from the Oklahoma tornado yesterday. I was watching MSM coverage and switched over the a local OK news stream while dozing off.

The anchors on the local station were speaking to the local medical examiner who said they had 51 bodies (20 children) at the morgue and were expecting another 40 bodies to be delivered. So at around 12:20am PST there was a death toll given of 91. About 5 minutes after that report the local feed went dead. (Not to static, but to a tones and bars like the signal went down or was cut.)

When I awoke this morning the media was now reporting that there were 24 fatalities attributed to the tornado. Thats a difference of close to 70 bodies. They also seemed to be very careful in releasing death toll figures, I believe official death toll reports were given to the media at 3 different times during the night (as more and more bodies were found).

How could the medical examiner made such a mistake? I believe I also heard the governor of the state claim there were 51 dead while on a telephone interview with CNN around 11:30 pm PST.

If this was a "erroneous" statistic why was it reported by the state and local medical examiner numerous times and then redacted?

The whole thing strikes me as odd...anyone else?

[link to fox43.com]
 Quoting: What_Happened?!@ 33719275


You thinking it was a hoax or something?
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Not a hoax, but a great place to discard unwanted corpses.
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
It was 51 then to 24 cause they double counted, issues with communications etc right after the storm... no conspiracy fools...
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Right...24 plus 24 is 51. Thanks.
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
Kind of like the death toll in Joplin, huh ???
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
there's gold in them thar fundraisers after psyops so yeah woudn't put past them
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
It was 51 then to 24 cause they double counted, issues with communications etc right after the storm... no conspiracy fools...
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Right...24 plus 24 is 51. Thanks.
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Uhhhhhh perhaps not all were counted twice?
Take a Xanax chicken little, not everything is a conspiracy no matter how much you want it to be.
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
It was 51 then to 24 cause they double counted, issues with communications etc right after the storm... no conspiracy fools...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32412853


Right...24 plus 24 is 51. Thanks.
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Uhhhhhh perhaps not all were counted twice?
Take a Xanax chicken little, not everything is a conspiracy no matter how much you want it to be.
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So your purpose is to stop me from thinking about this. Thanks.
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
It was 51 then to 24 cause they double counted, issues with communications etc right after the storm... no conspiracy fools...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32412853


Right...24 plus 24 is 51. Thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22819525


Uhhhhhh perhaps not all were counted twice?
Take a Xanax chicken little, not everything is a conspiracy no matter how much you want it to be.
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BTW "not all counted twice" would mean less than 48, nevermind the arbitrary sum of 51. Go push Xanax somewhere else Dr.
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
It was 51 then to 24 cause they double counted, issues with communications etc right after the storm... no conspiracy fools...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32412853


Right...24 plus 24 is 51. Thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22819525


Uhhhhhh perhaps not all were counted twice?
Take a Xanax chicken little, not everything is a conspiracy no matter how much you want it to be.
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He's got some "Glad" man in him....
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
google Joplin tornado secret morgue
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Thats a great thing that more lives weren't lost. Amazing that there weren't way more
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Some of the crisis actors quit.
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
ABSOLUTELY NO OFFENSE TO THE VICTIMS OF THIS HORRIBLE ACT OF NATURE.

HOWEVER, IF ALL THE U TUBE AND NEWS POSTS OF THE TORNADO ON THE GROUND WERE UFO'S, NO DOUBT THAT THE MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE SAID THAT THEY WERE SWAMP GAS, WEATHER BALLOONS, CHINESE LANTERNS, OR HOAXES.
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
Go back to sleep, we might get the count down to under a dozen.
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
I don't want there to be more dead.

I am not claiming it's a conspiracy.

I just said it struck me as odd that a governing entity that puts so much time, money and effort in to large scale disaster drills, agencies, and preparedness could make such a mistake. Additionally it happened in a county that has had multiple EF4-5 tornados in the past, so this wasn't their first time on the bull.

As I said in the first post, the local medical examiner stated they had 51 bodies in their POSSESSION. When asked about the 40 additional bodies the medical examiner stated that they "didn't want to make assumptions, but they were told another 40 bodies were on their way"

I did not watch the news this morning and when speaking with a co-worker I was somewhat surprised when they reported that only 24 people had been killed. Someone else at work thought the same thing I did as they stopped watching the coverage as of last night.

If it was a miscount it goes to show you how well the money is being spent. I guess the Federal Body Counting Agency came in over the night and set things straight in Moore County.

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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
I was watching CNN into the wee hours last night. They brought in the anchors based in the US, but have an "international" themed show. Kinda like the reverse of Fareed Zachari, who basically runs an international styled show intended for americans to watch. They probably had a late shift like that anyway for early morning Eurasian broadcasts on the actual CNN international stations.

They did the "breaking: 40 more dead bodies are on the way to the coroners office" scroll. Then then did the "exclusive". Then they did the "developing". Then they did actual reporters saying "confirmed: 40 more fatalities". started repeating it with live and canned footage.

I busted out my James Earl Jones Vader "Noooooooooooo!" And thats what fixed it!

Just kiding. Honestly, when they said confirmed I let out a little girl wimper and prayer to the boss upstairs.
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If no-one reported someone missing by morning, they simply didn't count the body.

I've heard about too many stories where the numbers are lowered that way to make the death toll lower.

Or maybe I've just spent too much time on glp.

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do you remember the news during 911? I remember their being claims of 19,000 dead, then 6000 was common for a day or so until the final number was finally realized. When a catastrophic event like this occurs it is difficult to get accurate information.
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
Thats a great thing that more lives weren't lost. Amazing that there weren't way more
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Agreed.
So many in need now.


Numbertards out there--do the numbers make 'sense'?


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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
I don't want there to be more dead.

I am not claiming it's a conspiracy.

I just said it struck me as odd that a governing entity that puts so much time, money and effort in to large scale disaster drills, agencies, and preparedness could make such a mistake. Additionally it happened in a county that has had multiple EF4-5 tornados in the past, so this wasn't their first time on the bull.

As I said in the first post, the local medical examiner stated they had 51 bodies in their POSSESSION. When asked about the 40 additional bodies the medical examiner stated that they "didn't want to make assumptions, but they were told another 40 bodies were on their way"

I did not watch the news this morning and when speaking with a co-worker I was somewhat surprised when they reported that only 24 people had been killed. Someone else at work thought the same thing I did as they stopped watching the coverage as of last night.

If it was a miscount it goes to show you how well the money is being spent. I guess the Federal Body Counting Agency came in over the night and set things straight in Moore County.

tomato
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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
It's called a disaster. Double-reporting, etc. No one has their shit together despite all appearances.
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Phone lines and towers were/are down. Communication was/is difficult.

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Re: When I went to bed there were 91 dead from the OK. tornado, when I awoke it was 24?
Another thing that struck me as odd is how were they able to scour such a large area for bodies/parts in such a short time. A 2 miles wide, 200 mph, grinder that traveled a very long distance make a pretty big mess in an extremely large area.





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