Obama says Americans must 'make some choices' in balancing privacy rights against threats (CHECK OUT THE COMMENTS)

Your ignorance and lack of research is showing. Most terrorists are Israeli and Americans. The Islamic threat in the US is minute and highly ineffective in comparison.

AdHoc B.O.H.I.C.A ... I Love It!!!

I don't need a babysitter..

Agreed...the "Cloud" is a security persons W O R S T enemy!!

Security & Cloud ... doesn't fit together.

Last Edited by DDan> on 06/08/2013 01:33 PM

The cloud and security can live together. Just like anything with information technology, it just takes work and it never ends (wow - that sounds a lot like marriage). The quintessential question that any solid security engineer has to ask is "how can we do this with an acceptable level of risk." And yes, I have a solid background in network and security engineering and architecture.

Just a small list of movies that depict what the NWO has in store for the United States of America. There are many more.
If you haven't watched any of these movies, I urge you to do so and prepare accordingly.

Feel free to add to this list.

The Day After
The Day after tomorrow
I am Legend
The Book of Eli
Jericho
Defiance
The Road
The Stand
The Signal

Depends on which "Security Team" your on........

JOB "security", right?

The report I saw said that Bush has an IQ of 140+ maybe just maybe he's smarter than you because he made you think he wasn't intelligent?

Mad max series
Olympus has fallen
Oblivion
Manborg
Zombie movies
Red Dawn

Make it so.



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Thread: Would you rather have government overgrowth and hyper security, or just accept the occasional terrorist attack?


Would you rather-

A) have government overgrowth and hyper security, or
B) just accept the occasional terrorist attack?


Even with intrusive hyper government and security, there will still be terrorist attacks.

It is far better to have a free society with small government and non-intrusiveness, and just accept and absorb the terrorist attacks and give them as little media coverage as possible.

Forgive me for giggling, but this made me giggle. It's like when a 6 year old comes to their parent after having this enormous epiphany about a concept you grasped 30 years prior, but you can't help but relive the joy of the moment of rediscovery through their eyes regardless of the tiny flaws :)

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I should have also pointed out that it made me smile because I agreed with you :) Gawd. I really am getting old.

Last Edited by Eireann on 06/08/2013 03:47 PM

Isn't it ironic?

You know what I am more than happy to "make some choices" except no one fucking asked me!!

The "cloud" is one of the least understood aspects of modern technology. Depending on what you think the cloud is, you could believe that most are already utilizing it. You could also believe that it is not much more than marketing lore. A certain degree of both is actually true.

Think for one moment and try to put into words how you would define the "cloud" to a non-technical person. In a purely technical essence, the cloud is only in minimal degrees a variation of the infrastructure solutions that have been readily available for over the past decade. I'm a architect for a cloud computing companym and I can attest to the fact that the data centers and networks that we're designing and implementing today do not differ that much from the SaaS-based, multi-tenant data centers and networks that I was designing a decade ago. In fact, those same data centers and networks are currently being sold as the "cloud."

In it's most basic form, the cloud is really only about on-demand, pay per usage, utility computing.

Lecturing us again, like he's the professor and we're the eager undergrads.

Of course we all understand that you cannot have 100% security, 100% freedom, and 0 inconvenience. Thanks for talking down to us, asshole.

Me, I'd take 30% security, 70% freedom and some moderate level of inconvenience. But ... who's asking me what I want? No one. Especially not Obama.

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Consider the following -- Who actually CAUGHT the Boston bomber? A citizen who left his home for a smoke and saw the guy in the boat. An alert and active citizenry is about 1000 times better than storm troopers and lock downs.

Hey brother ... I also work for a cloud computing company. What a hoot it would be to know there is someone from my company on GLP. Well best not to know, but hellow and welcome. I'm always amused at the "cloud" terminology because it really fogs up the issue, so to speak. Makes it sound like magic when it's just a mechanism for putting multiple operating systems on a single compute box.

Interesting to hear you were designing multi-tenant datacenters a decade ago. In my little part of the world that's still considered pretty advanced.

You must be a noobie. Everything that has recently "come to light" in the mainstream media is what we refer to as a "limited hangout". Look it up. What you are witnessing now is pure theater. A psy-op to ratchet tension.

Everything you have written on the internet has been stored under your name already. You have already been monitored for years, and are currently profiled and categorized, just like everyone else.

This current release into the mainstream is to invoke reaction from those sheep who have not taken a strong political stand either way up til now (on the fence). They will now be categorized for the final cull.

You may as well have fun and say as you like. You were done a long time ago. :)

I see the cloud as: You data on someone else's server. Think photoshop running online where you can login to it and save your sessions remotely using a dummy web terminal.

Everything the data centers are doing is just sales and marketing and some pay as you go billing interface software.

The data center part seems useless to me.

This site is "the cloud". It used to be called a honeypot.

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anyone who believes anything that character says is a total idiot.

One thing forgotten is that Security isn't gray. It is either Black/White (Red/Green). There is no compromise in 100% Security. Risk acceptance is a compromise...doesn't make it gray, but simply "Not Secure".

You either are 100% secure (or not). If you are not, that is a risk that needs to be accepted and understood by everyone that has a stake in it (meaning we the people). I am not talking about a Company accepting risk of an vulnerable OS because it is a mission critical system. I am speaking of the elimination of our freedoms for security threats they created. Ever ask yourself why the U.S. is not liked in the Middle East?? We go and force our views on them ... look how mad everyone gets when they come to us forcing their views on us (you see it everywhere recently)?? It pisses you off as bad as they are pissed off at us (Global anilination if we are not carefull).

Now, you are correct, "The cloud and security can live together"...as long as the risks are known/understood by all (not just a few). I personally can live with risk...we all do everyday by "driving cars, flying in planes, list is endless, etc...". Problem with "We The People" today is they do not seek the information that can set them free (know the truth) and therefore they are unable to make "informed decisions", so the decisions they make are made with information they are given and they do not have enough drive to seek the TRUTH or even question the ones telling them the "supposed truth".

There is nothing more valuable (to me) than Freedom/Rights (Constitution)!! I swore an oath to defend it against all enimies Foreign and Domestic.

I am sorry for my RANT and please understand, I was directing this to all the Sheople.

you know your in trouble when the same people providing security are behind the terrorism.

^^ T H I S ^^

Freedom isn't free, there's a hefty fucking fee. Swallow it all the way you fucking morans.