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Message Subject Three little known (by Christians) facts about the Bible and Revelation

Poster Handle Zerubbabel

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If you can't stand the heat, you shouldn't be playing with the fire. As a so-called student of Kaballah, your ignorance is really showing.

There are many of us CHRISTians who are very aware of your so-called "facts". Satan has been attacking the foundations of Christianity for millennia. Some very well-versed people over the years have actually put together material that had "some" merit to it. I see no merit at all on that website. I have studied Kabballah for decades and see NOTHING that disputes what science is now beginning to take seriously or take it so seriously that they don't want to upset their own applecart. The "FACT" is that modern science is now admitting that their experiments are showing them that "effect" can actually happen before "cause". The "fact" that light is now seen as capable of traveling of MULTIPLES of light speed--therefore showing that the "Standard Model" can no longer stand as "fact". The ONE major "fact" that disproved the possibility of a 6000 year-old earth was the "fact" of the limiting factor of light speed at 186,282 miles per second in a vacuum. Modern experiments now show that light CAN and DOES travel faster than ever imagined. The "facts" PROVING that the earth is billions of years old is now relegated to the dustbins of ignorance and has joined the "legions" of former scientists of old who have been proved wrong, time and time again.

I could go on for hours showing just how ignorant (not stupid) your proposals are. Your "facts" are all wrong or misguided. In "fact", I will even go a step further and state without any qualms whatsoever that if there is, indeed, a so-called "hall of records", it is contained within the Scriptures themselves--right out in the open. I am a SCIENCE FREAK and have been since early childhood and find that Scripture has the finest SCIENCE that the world has ever seen. Kabballah does not even scratch the surface--as must as I enjoyed studying it and discussing it on many forums--including the time travel institute science forum. When the Bible said that the earth (by inference) is only 6000 or so years old, instead of trying to DISPROVE that, I sought to PROVE it. Science has done a far better job of it than I ever could.

As far as coming to this forum is somehow a bad choice to teach the "natives" your wonderful truth of antichristian dogma, may I remind you that you are on a CONSPIRACY forum which has far more enemies to "religion" than it does those who might even agree with you. "Marginalizing" the "natives' because they don't see your "brilliance" is hardly the way to prove your own stances.

Quoting: Zerubbabel

Am I understanding correctly you are saying the Bible is correct in it's statement that the earth is less than 6,000 years old, and that science has proven this.

Also you stated I am making ridiculous claims. Did you have some kind evidence to cite the validity of your claim which "science has done a far better job of" proving than you?

I am very interested on how a clearly educated person like yourself is going to back up this claim... with science. :-)

Also, Kabbalah has dibs on the big bang theory. They wrote it about two millennium ago, so I don't understand why you seem to consider the Kabbalah to not be scientific, but that the bible is.

I personally do not see this documentation as anti-christian or satanic. I believe that if people do their own research on this document and Christianity then they can learn truth.

After all, if the blind lead the blind, then you all fall into a pit together, right? And since my information is accurate, whereas you are claiming the earth is less than 6,000 years old and that this is proven by science...

I guess maybe people have some things to learn about their own history.

I had a college sophmore reading and reading comprehension level in 5th grade, and likely have read more books in a year than most so called scholars read in their life.

Yet you, the great wise one, have something to say I have never heard of... That science has proven better than you can, that the earth is less than 6,000 years old.

I'm looking forward to your explanation of how the earth is less than 6,000 years old. :-)

Quoting: Loki's Magus

I won't do the research for you but you can look up Double-slit experiments, quantum entanglement, "spooky action at a distance" (spoken by Einstein), and see what has turned science on its head. Most modern-day scientists refuse to even go there because it is just too "spooky". None of their theories hold at the quantum level. They are realizing that just simple OBSERVATION can change the properties of things (such as a particle changing into a wave by observing it--even at macroscopic distances. Science hasn't PROVEN that the earth is 6000 years old. It is showing that it is POSSIBLE where it was once IMPOSSIBLE by their reasoning. If you have the time, watch the video that was presented to you which is by Dr. Walter Veith. Dr. Veith is a former geneticist with impeccable educational background. He has shown that the entire structure of today's "science" is build on false reasoning and that the "theory of evolution" is a theory that even modern scientists cannot prove--especially with DNA and Mitochondrial DNA evidence available. The theories involving the "geologic column" which argues for an old earth is pure rubbish. He shows this quite clearly and shows how science has put all of its eggs in one basket and that basket is now a basketcase.

You're basing conclusions on faulty conclusions. I have read just as many (if not more) books than you. I exhausted all the encyclopedias by the time I was in Junior High School and have several college degrees--for what they are worth. I could go on and on about accomplishments, but what does that prove? The fact is, you have built your house on sand. It is sinking even as we speak. You recognize intelligence--that is a good thing. Now use YOUR intelligence to seek the truth of the matter. God is real. His Son, Jesus Christ is real. The Holy Spirit is VERY real. The prophecies are true and real. The times we are in are VERY REAL--even to the unbeliever. Everything is exactly as Scripture fortells. Trying to disprove some of the Scripture is like trying to cut out pieces of your heart. You may still function, but you are a walking deadman. All of your heart is necessary as is all of your head. You can't pick and choose what is real. If you rely on your own intelligence and ability, you will surely fail.

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