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Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?

 
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Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
Seriously,

I am by no means a perfect human being, but I try to conduct myself in honest ways. Lately I have been feeling that my 'play nice' conduct has done nothing but hold me back. Plenty of people I know who have purposely screwed people over in various ways, are living the life.

I question why I am not acting like an asshole to get ahead. Any thoughts out there?
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06/14/2013 10:38 PM
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
It feels like it somedays...yes.

Btw...are you being serious?
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06/14/2013 10:38 PM
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
life is like a game of big brother
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
I feel like it's a matter of perspective, what do mean by people being "assholes" to get somewhere?

I come from a pretty successful family and I don't remember being told they had to be "assholes" to get there
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06/14/2013 10:39 PM
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
Evil is rewarded in this evil world. Don't let them corrupt your soul.
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06/14/2013 10:48 PM
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
They do. Here's part of the reason:

They take oaths to protect each other in freemasonry.

The light behind freemasonry -

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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
I just feel like I've tried so hard and I'm getting nowhere...I have, in some ways, checked out. I feel like I am merely existing now. Having said that, there is a part of me that feels that if I start acting more 'aggressive' or start 'playing the game', I would be further ahead. I've seen this scenario play out with others' all around me.

I'm just getting tired that's all.
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06/14/2013 10:49 PM
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
It feels like it somedays...yes.

Btw...are you being serious?
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I am being serious

Lucifer is the planetary ruler on this planet
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Right. Because when he told Jesus that he could have the whole world to rule, if he worshipped Lucifer, and Jesus did not rebuke him - did not tell him it was not his to give away.
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
I just feel like I've tried so hard and I'm getting nowhere...I have, in some ways, checked out. I feel like I am merely existing now. Having said that, there is a part of me that feels that if I start acting more 'aggressive' or start 'playing the game', I would be further ahead. I've seen this scenario play out with others' all around me.

I'm just getting tired that's all.
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Hang in there. It's getting so bad that it can't last much longer!
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
Seriously,

I am by no means a perfect human being, but I try to conduct myself in honest ways. Lately I have been feeling that my 'play nice' conduct has done nothing but hold me back. Plenty of people I know who have purposely screwed people over in various ways, are living the life.

I question why I am not acting like an asshole to get ahead. Any thoughts out there?
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I notice you are in Canada. It's nice to know that you feel our pain too.
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
OP I feel the same way
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
They do. Here's part of the reason:

They take oaths to protect each other in freemasonry.

The light behind freemasonry -


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Fucking criminals.

Who like to lick cum-stained pussies from their wives.

Cuckolds.
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Um. No. They are child raping pedophiles and closeted homosexuals. The wives are just beards.
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
It doesn't SEEM that way.

It's true.

Not a good time to be upstanding and honorable.
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
You only looking inside threw a small window. The onces you envy isnt a life you want. Stay pure as you can.

Never keep ghost in you closet. They can never come back and haunt you,

The people you speak of have many ghost. They live looking over their shoulder. I know many that you speak of. And they envy me for staying pure...
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
Seriously,

I am by no means a perfect human being, but I try to conduct myself in honest ways. Lately I have been feeling that my 'play nice' conduct has done nothing but hold me back. Plenty of people I know who have purposely screwed people over in various ways, are living the life.

I question why I am not acting like an asshole to get ahead. Any thoughts out there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38483807


you are seeing it the exact way that I am seeing...
keep your composure, as the other poster said,
it cant be much longer...
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06/14/2013 10:59 PM
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
You have two options, enjoy the riches of this life through deceitful ways, or work hard and enjoy a eternity in God's kingdom.

This world has become a place where evil thrives and good is discouraged/looked down upon. People who are 18+ and make "I'm a virgin till marriage" comment is a good example of how far we have fallen....people crucify them for being waiting to find the right women.
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
I just feel like I've tried so hard and I'm getting nowhere...I have, in some ways, checked out. I feel like I am merely existing now. Having said that, there is a part of me that feels that if I start acting more 'aggressive' or start 'playing the game', I would be further ahead. I've seen this scenario play out with others' all around me.

I'm just getting tired that's all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38483807


Bro you are "living the life" by being thoughtful, kind and honest and considerate. You are more ahead by being virtuous, noble, forthright truthful and just. Your conscience will be clear on the day you die. There's no squirming out of ones past actions on that day with the techniques used during life that got one living large by deceit.

Stay the course, keep the faith and be at peace.

Don't sell your soul cheap for worldly goods.
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06/14/2013 11:09 PM
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
Depth over distance, my friend.

They may seem like they are "living the life" but what they are doing is living the momentary high. Like a junkie, they are willing to lie, cheat and screw others over for their momentary high.

it's kind of like the guy who lives in a crappy apartment but drives a very expensive car of which he makes the payments each month to allow him the "show" ... but the truth of the situation is it's just that a "show" - the bank owns the car and he lives in a crappy apartment.

reality is always better then "the grass is greener on the other side of the fence"
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
Seriously,

I am by no means a perfect human being, but I try to conduct myself in honest ways. Lately I have been feeling that my 'play nice' conduct has done nothing but hold me back. Plenty of people I know who have purposely screwed people over in various ways, are living the life.

I question why I am not acting like an asshole to get ahead. Any thoughts out there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38483807


I think this often. Even in my own extended family I have some who take advantage of others good will and by doing this, they have everything they could want, while I am a good person, always helping others,looking out for others and have got no where. I hope one day, my way of life will pay off. In the meantime op, just try and keep in mind that you are a good and honest person. Would you really be happy aquiring things by being an ass?
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God Bless you and keep you, OP

May he renew your spirit and your mind. Strengthen your inner spirit each day. Set your sights on things above.

May He give you a glimpse of the rewards of both men.. Both the wicked and the righteous.
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
Thank you all for your thoughtful input. It's nice to know that I am not alone (God love GLP). I will keep trying to do things honestly at the end of my life I will be able to look in the mirror.

:)
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Do not fret because of evildoers, nor be envious of the wicked; For there will be no prospect for the evil man; The lamp of the wicked will be put out.


--Proverbs 24:19-20
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
Tis the test of Life its self..

Stick true to your morals and live life the way you feel and believe;

or follow the masses on the wide path.
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
Seriously,

I am by no means a perfect human being, but I try to conduct myself in honest ways. Lately I have been feeling that my 'play nice' conduct has done nothing but hold me back. Plenty of people I know who have purposely screwed people over in various ways, are living the life.

I question why I am not acting like an asshole to get ahead. Any thoughts out there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38483807


The problem is what humans perceive as "good" vs "bad", looking at something from the human point of view is flawed. We are preprogrammed, and society influenced. So we cannot gauge something from a pure and unbiased view.

So, look at nature. Beings out in nature are not influenced and "brainwashed" like humans are.

Animals do not think in "bad" vs "good", they simply live. They live to survive. Whatever they do to benefit their survival, and the survival of their offspring, they do. They do not think and mull over good vs bad. They live in the moment of "will this give me an edge to survive?", if yes, they do it, if no, they do not do it.

What you have realized is that those in this world who "get it", as in the big picture, realize that the "good" vs "bad" is all bullshit. There is no good or bad, there is only survival of the ones fittest and willingness to ensure their success and survival.

Try it yourself in an experiment. For one month, be selfish, and do things that will only benefit you and your offspring. Actively try to get want you always wanted, I guarantee you will get everything you set out as a goal, because nothing stops you in life, except you!




It feels like it somedays...yes.

Btw...are you being serious?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38483807


I am being serious

Lucifer is the planetary ruler on this planet
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Religions are created by humans to keep the lesser thinking humans in line and in check so that the ones higher up can take advantage of the lesser humans without resistance.

So keep believing in religion and fantasy tales of God, Jesus, and the devil, and continue being a slave forever to them .... because they want you to forgive them, and turn the other cheek so they may use you and your offspring for many more generations.


Evil is rewarded in this evil world. Don't let them corrupt your soul.
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Typical religious contradictory. #1. How can a soul (aka source from God) which is perfect, be corrupted by something lesser than God which controls the entire universe? That would mean it is not perfect, therefore God is not perfect, therefore God is not a God. #2. God created Earth, so why would God create an evil world, that would mean God is not perfect, therefore God is not a God.

Thats like saying this square board is totally fire-proof .... but dont put it near matches, because it will catch fire.

You cant have it both ways. It doesnt work that way. Its either one way, or no way. Simple as that.
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
..because there will always be lazy and gullible sheep to prey on.
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
I understand what you are saying. I have watched the lying, deceitful people get what they want first hand. However I believe these people are very unhappy and it will come back and bite them. Kill them with kindness and live a pure, loving Life. Don't become like them. Much love to you.
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.

We are not human beings on a spiritual journey.
We are spiritual beings on a human journey.
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
If you knew how many Demons are in the public eye you may just start to believe

Demons are incredibly charming

And you will never expect who they are
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theyre easy to see if you try
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
What you have realized is that those in this world who "get it", as in the big picture, realize that the "good" vs "bad" is all bullshit. There is no good or bad, there is only survival of the ones fittest and willingness to ensure their success and survival.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3937774


That is not true.

Love and Cooperation forms the basis of Life Experience.

"Make love, truth and joy the measure of your success."
 Quoting: TruthMinion


BWHAHAHA. Right. Tell that to the Rothschild and Rockefeller and the other numerous billionaire families.

Lets see, they are ultra rich, ultra healthy (most have lived way beyond their 90's and were still able to keep going), they rarely have bad things happen to them, they dont have to work a single day in their lives (for many generations to come), they can do and go anywhere, and they can be anything they want to be.

So what were you saying ... ah yes, you were spewing hippy spiritualist bullshit while being a slave to them, as will your kids be, and your childrens children, for a long long time. But be happy and cheerful, and grateful, for what they have allowed you to have.
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
Because this is the demiurges realm. This is not a place for honesty and goodwill. The third dimension is hell and it's meant to be like that/
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Re: Why does it seem that liars, cheats, manipulators and scumbags get further in life?
Worry not. An incomprehensible reward is headed your way and will be revealed in due time. Let those who choose evil receive an evil reward, while those who choose good a reward of glory.

Remember, your condition is infinitely more favorable in the eyes of your Creator and Savior than those who prosper for a time through wicked means.





GLP