The 441 TRILLION-Dollar Interest-Rate-Derivatives Time Bomb | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41927519 Mexico 06/25/2013 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't go so fast , most of theses swap,options,future trillions are owned by Central banks . Thats the way they manipulate the Interest-Rate among other indicators . Since they can't manipulate inflation very good (too many variables involved) they do control interest-Rate as a form to avoid a financial meltdown !! |
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Éireann User ID: 42203781 United States 06/25/2013 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The following is how Investopedia defines interest rate derivatives... Quoting: SteamrolledGobias A financial instrument based on an underlying financial security whose value is affected by changes in interest rates. Interest-rate derivatives are hedges used by institutional investors such as banks to combat the changes in market interest rates. Individual investors are more likely to use interest-rate derivatives as a speculative tool - they hope to profit from their guesses about which direction market interest rates will move. [link to www.investopedia.com] Do you know how stupid this is? Not you, Gobias, but them! They are willing to make a bet using someone else's money in such a way that it could bring an end to economics as we know it. Who the fuck thinks like this???? Last Edited by Eireann on 06/25/2013 12:42 PM Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
GFX guy User ID: 9776422 United States 06/25/2013 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok -- So I have a company matching 401K with a small nest egg after 13 years of work. What kind of funds should I move it to to make it safe? Please don't say cash it in as that's not an option as long as I'm working. I HAVE to leave it somewhere and right now it's balanced everywhere but more heavily in foreign stocks and REIT's. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3012175 I certainly wouldn't count on it... This is a global heist - in progress. You can hope for the best, but you'd be wise the prepare for the worst. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35877657 Australia 06/25/2013 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you want to know the primary reason why rapidly rising interest rates could take down the entire global financial system? Quoting: DoorBert Most people might think that it would be because the U.S. government would have to pay much more interest on the national debt. And yes, if the average rate of interest on U.S. government debt rose to just 6 percent (and it has actually been much higher in the past), the federal government would be paying out about a trillion dollars a year just in interest on the national debt. But that isn't it. Nor does the primary reason have to do with the fact that rapidly rising interest rates would impose massive losses on bond investors. At this point, it is being projected that if U.S. bond yields rise by an average of 3 percentage points, it will cause investors to lose a trillion dollars. Yes, that is a 1 with 12 zeroes after it ($1,000,000,000,000). But that is not the number one danger posed by rapidly rising interest rates either. Rather, the number one reason why rapidly rising interest rates could cause the entire global financial system to crash is because there are more than 441 TRILLION dollars worth of interest rate derivatives sitting out there. This number comes directly from the Bank for International Settlements- the central bank of central banks. In other words, more than $441,000,000,000,000 has been bet on the movement of interest rates. Normally these bets do not cause a major problem because rates tend to move very slowly and the system stays balanced. But now rates are starting to skyrocket, and the sophisticated financial models used by derivatives traders do not account for this kind of movement. So what does all of this mean? It means that the global financial system is potentially heading for massive amounts of trouble if interest rates continue to soar. [link to www.blacklistednews.com] Here's the plan, give me 100 trillion dollars "um, sir, we don't have 100 trillion" "100 billion?" "no, we can't have anymore money" |
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SteamrolledGobias User ID: 15716609 United States 06/25/2013 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The following is how Investopedia defines interest rate derivatives... Quoting: SteamrolledGobias A financial instrument based on an underlying financial security whose value is affected by changes in interest rates. Interest-rate derivatives are hedges used by institutional investors such as banks to combat the changes in market interest rates. Individual investors are more likely to use interest-rate derivatives as a speculative tool - they hope to profit from their guesses about which direction market interest rates will move. [link to www.investopedia.com] Do you know how stupid this is? Not you, Gobias, but them! They are willing to make a bet using someone else's money in such a way that it could bring an end to economics as we know it. Who the fuck thinks like this???? money addicts & sociopaths Last Edited by SteamrolledGobias on 06/25/2013 01:06 PM |
GFX guy User ID: 9776422 United States 06/25/2013 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The following is how Investopedia defines interest rate derivatives... Quoting: SteamrolledGobias A financial instrument based on an underlying financial security whose value is affected by changes in interest rates. Interest-rate derivatives are hedges used by institutional investors such as banks to combat the changes in market interest rates. Individual investors are more likely to use interest-rate derivatives as a speculative tool - they hope to profit from their guesses about which direction market interest rates will move. [link to www.investopedia.com] Do you know how stupid this is? Not you, Gobias, but them! They are willing to make a bet using someone else's money in such a way that it could bring an end to economics as we know it. Who the fuck thinks like this???? money addicts & sociopaths ^^THIS^^ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40277777 New Zealand 06/25/2013 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok -- So I have a company matching 401K with a small nest egg after 13 years of work. What kind of funds should I move it to to make it safe? Please don't say cash it in as that's not an option as long as I'm working. I HAVE to leave it somewhere and right now it's balanced everywhere but more heavily in foreign stocks and REIT's. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3012175 I certainly wouldn't count on it... This is a global heist - in progress. You can hope for the best, but you'd be wise the prepare for the worst. test |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16074559 United States 06/25/2013 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BUSTED: Bankers Caught On Tape, Joking About Bailout, And How They’d Never Pay It Back Quoting: DoorBert [link to www.businessinsider.com] Brings to mind the rallying cry: "EAT THE BANKERS !" |
Judethz User ID: 7367640 United Kingdom 06/25/2013 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They had us put in writing THAT ...... Should the USA default on the dollar or debt, THEY could collect by TAKING all US Government lands to satisfy same, and THAT MEANS about one third of all the USA ! PLUS, the government buildings. Quoting: Eagle # 1 32552776 Then I bags California. Oh wait it's due to split off and sink into the Pacific. |
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No More Lies User ID: 1178326 United States 06/25/2013 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not only will the FED not taper, they will increase QE. Because just merely continuing along at 85 billion/month is in essence tapering once you factor in the law of diminishing returns...to keep the largest bubble in world history from popping, the central banks will need to INCREASE their QE. This will of course cripple the real economy and result in the death of dollar...it comes down to whether the game ends today or the near future. |
Mickeyblue User ID: 9806228 United States 06/25/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Couple that with the July first interest rate rise on student debt and wait and watch. Add to that all the adjustable rate mortgasges and you can see the issues which were and have never gone away. I would much prefer to return to our old way of playing "kick the can" when I was a youngster. |
goldielucks User ID: 794598 United States 06/25/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you see "money as debt", then as of October 14, 2011, the Quoting: Major Doom total money in the world is more than $50,945,530,000,000. [link to www.economist.com] If you consider the Gross World Product then it would exceed US$84.97 trillion as of 2012. [link to www.indexmundi.com] So, in a nutshell, US$441 trillion exceeds all the money in the world! It is inevitable of global economic collapse. It is not a matter of IF, but WHEN... When interest rates rise. It's happening now. Worse yet, it hasn't risen like it is in 50 years... "The 441 TRILLION Dollar Interest Rate Derivatives Time Bomb" [link to etfdailynews.com] The EKG of financial health... [link to www.dryships.com] And more flat-lining [link to etfdailynews.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33863384 United States 06/25/2013 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you think people will go after real moneychangers this time or AGAIN...burn down poor jew family from the house next to "you"..."me". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11398673 And who might the "real moneychangers" be, eh? Some type of inbred ashkenazis with a little help from true psychopaths like the rockerfeller family who have no allegiance to anyone or anything other that absolute power. They don't give a hoot about the jews that is just a ruse. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37780293 Malta 06/26/2013 06:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bump for someone actually being on point about the real underlying financial problems the current system is built upon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9620311 The rest of the noise are mere symptoms of the disease. +1 This is the point. There can't be a 'recovery' or a return to 'normal' because the very mechanics of the system are flawed and completely unsustainable. This whole crazy experiment was always going to have a limited lifespan. |
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