A true story of ONE of the many reasons I HATE the Catholic Church... | |
GunnyJoe User ID: 11837226 United States 07/08/2013 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " It`s only weird the first time" ;p |
fireman2013 User ID: 33747803 Australia 07/08/2013 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | op don't give up on the bible because of the catholic church Quoting: fireman2013 that's just doing what they always wanted you to do. I have not embraced any church since I was 12 years old...I am at heart an Atheist and do not believe in anything...you die you die. Your life is important. You were given that book for a reason, it's to help you. The rest of the world is to distract you from it. You can't afford to be an atheist. You are worth more than that. Oh bullshit...the last bible I read was the Satanic Bible (Lavey Satanism). I am not a Satanist BUT do investigate and research other religion. Its curious to me what people find so fascinating about "gods"...Lavey is more about lifestyle and he used "Satan" because it was the anti... Prologue[edit] The prologue to The Satanic Bible begins by discussing the concept of gods, good and evil, and human nature. It includes the Nine Satanic Statements: 1.Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence! 2.Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams! 3.Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit! 4.Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates! 5.Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek! 6.Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic vampires! 7.Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development," has become the most vicious animal of all! 8.Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification! 9.Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years![42] [link to en.wikipedia.org] A lot of what he said probably made the MOST sense out of any main stream religion... I have read the satanic bible, aliester Crowley. In the end do whatever you want to do is the only rule they really have, and that's not even a rule, their main thing is just lawlessness. If you are not Christian, you are some degree of their religion for better or worse and If you indulge in that, you just killing your soul. You have to get bright enough to be graced with the spirit. If you could stop thinking bad stuff for just a little bit and give up indulgence and gratification, you will find a new world of being, you will see stuff in the bible you never seen. Alive In Jesus Christ |
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Smiling Jack (OP) User ID: 23179271 United States 07/08/2013 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I stopped going to cath church and all churches after an arguement about my lack of contributions. My response was "If the Lord is all seeing and all knowing,he knows i can barely eat sometimes and with all that power of the Heavens, he dos`nt want or need my money nor do i need to pay you to make sure my prayers are heard in Heaven. He can hear me pray where ever i am and knows whats in my heart and how i treat others. Still pray and still believe. Quoting: GunnyJoe Well just don't die and expect them to hook you up...You will be buried in a blank grave buy some Jesuit...Catholics are like that...no money no play |
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Smiling Jack (OP) User ID: 23179271 United States 07/08/2013 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP (and other atheists), Quoting: Keep2theCode Do you think atheism is right and everyone else is wrong? The fact is that I am Atheist and not saying I'm right...you see I believe in nothing...and not saying anyone whom believes in anything is right or wrong...I believe ALL organized religions are in fact bullshit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43046463 United States 07/08/2013 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not Catholic. I know of a nun who works tirelessly in El Salvador and here helping the poor. In oppressive heat and discomfort with dirt poor people, to educate their children and raise their standard of living, for free. And I could tell you stories just like OP's And more like the one above......so what do you say ? Is it a Catholic thing or is it about something else ? I am going with the "something else" and we REALLY need to start defining what that is, soon. I realize it is much more severe when the betrayal takes place within the confines of a place that is supposed to be comforting but it is basically the same "something else" And, it is not just in the Catholic Church |
fireman2013 User ID: 33747803 Australia 07/08/2013 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't care what fictional caveman wrote the bible or any of its teachings....I do know one thing though...and its proven....Religion IS failing...All of it... When you study science in school they give you textbooks which are suppose to be based on experiments, research and studies. You read it because it has authority. The bible was composed by many people and put together with the inspiration of God behind it, and gods work in the world. It is the ultimate textbook of life. It's been around for 2000 years. It tells of what is to happen next. You owe it to yourself to take it seriously. Alive In Jesus Christ |
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Smiling Jack (OP) User ID: 23179271 United States 07/08/2013 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Smiling Jack I have not embraced any church since I was 12 years old...I am at heart an Atheist and do not believe in anything...you die you die. Your life is important. You were given that book for a reason, it's to help you. The rest of the world is to distract you from it. You can't afford to be an atheist. You are worth more than that. Oh bullshit...the last bible I read was the Satanic Bible (Lavey Satanism). I am not a Satanist BUT do investigate and research other religion. Its curious to me what people find so fascinating about "gods"...Lavey is more about lifestyle and he used "Satan" because it was the anti... Prologue[edit] The prologue to The Satanic Bible begins by discussing the concept of gods, good and evil, and human nature. It includes the Nine Satanic Statements: 1.Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence! 2.Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams! 3.Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit! 4.Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates! 5.Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek! 6.Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic vampires! 7.Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development," has become the most vicious animal of all! 8.Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification! 9.Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years![42] [link to en.wikipedia.org] A lot of what he said probably made the MOST sense out of any main stream religion... I have read the satanic bible, aliester Crowley. In the end do whatever you want to do is the only rule they really have, and that's not even a rule, their main thing is just lawlessness. If you are not Christian, you are some degree of their religion for better or worse and If you indulge in that, you just killing your soul. You have to get bright enough to be graced with the spirit. If you could stop thinking bad stuff for just a little bit and give up indulgence and gratification, you will find a new world of being, you will see stuff in the bible you never seen. The only thing I want to see from that fictional piece of shit is Wormwood...I hope that truly exists. This whole fucked up world needs an enema... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43043763 Germany 07/08/2013 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't care what fictional caveman wrote the bible or any of its teachings....I do know one thing though...and its proven....Religion IS failing...All of it... The bible was composed by many people and put together with the inspiration of God behind it, I believe a God could likely write his own books. There is no proof God had any inspiration in the writing of the "bible". It's just something they told you. And you believe it. That's your choice. But I really don't buy it. |
Keep2theCode User ID: 20545539 United States 07/08/2013 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP (and other atheists), Quoting: Keep2theCode Do you think atheism is right and everyone else is wrong? The fact is that I am Atheist and not saying I'm right...you see I believe in nothing...and not saying anyone whom believes in anything is right or wrong...I believe ALL organized religions are in fact bullshit. Can you tell me how your belief that all organized religions are wrong is different from them saying other religions are wrong? Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16) |
Smiling Jack (OP) User ID: 23179271 United States 07/08/2013 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP (and other atheists), Quoting: Keep2theCode Do you think atheism is right and everyone else is wrong? The fact is that I am Atheist and not saying I'm right...you see I believe in nothing...and not saying anyone whom believes in anything is right or wrong...I believe ALL organized religions are in fact bullshit. Can you tell me how your belief that all organized religions are wrong is different from them saying other religions are wrong? Ok then...which one is right?...You all clash or ride off separate on stories based upon a chapter...Well who is right? You all kill each other and yourselves for nothing. I have no fear from a vengeful god when I die...how about you? |
Keep2theCode User ID: 20545539 United States 07/08/2013 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP (and other atheists), Quoting: Keep2theCode Do you think atheism is right and everyone else is wrong? The fact is that I am Atheist and not saying I'm right...you see I believe in nothing...and not saying anyone whom believes in anything is right or wrong...I believe ALL organized religions are in fact bullshit. Can you tell me how your belief that all organized religions are wrong is different from them saying other religions are wrong? Ok then...which one is right?...You all clash or ride off separate on stories based upon a chapter...Well who is right? You all kill each other and yourselves for nothing. I have no fear from a vengeful god when I die...how about you? All I'm getting at is that the common charge, "they think they're right and everyone else is wrong", is something even atheists do, or they wouldn't be atheists. I have no fear of God because I honor him as my creator. I chose the Christian God because Jesus rose from the dead. I am convinced that there is more than adequate historical evidence to support this fact, such that if I reject it then I must also reject everything else in history that I didn't personally witness. And I believe the God you hate is not the God of the Bible; you're burning a straw man. But really, I'm not here to convince you I'm right; I'm here to point out that atheists are guilty of many of the faults they cite for theists. That's all. Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17030813 Australia 07/08/2013 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Smiling Jack The fact is that I am Atheist and not saying I'm right...you see I believe in nothing...and not saying anyone whom believes in anything is right or wrong...I believe ALL organized religions are in fact bullshit. Can you tell me how your belief that all organized religions are wrong is different from them saying other religions are wrong? Ok then...which one is right?...You all clash or ride off separate on stories based upon a chapter...Well who is right? You all kill each other and yourselves for nothing. I have no fear from a vengeful god when I die...how about you? All I'm getting at is that the common charge, "they think they're right and everyone else is wrong", is something even atheists do, or they wouldn't be atheists. I have no fear of God because I honor him as my creator. I chose the Christian God because Jesus rose from the dead. I am convinced that there is more than adequate historical evidence to support this fact, such that if I reject it then I must also reject everything else in history that I didn't personally witness. And I believe the God you hate is not the God of the Bible; you're burning a straw man. But really, I'm not here to convince you I'm right; I'm here to point out that atheists are guilty of many of the faults they cite for theists. That's all. Well..at least you toned your arrogance dowm a bit. You didnt even threaten hell and say LOL at the end like you generally do. |
fireman2013 User ID: 33747803 Australia 07/08/2013 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP (and other atheists), Quoting: Keep2theCode Do you think atheism is right and everyone else is wrong? The fact is that I am Atheist and not saying I'm right...you see I believe in nothing...and not saying anyone whom believes in anything is right or wrong...I believe ALL organized religions are in fact bullshit. Can you tell me how your belief that all organized religions are wrong is different from them saying other religions are wrong? Ok then...which one is right?...You all clash or ride off separate on stories based upon a chapter...Well who is right? You all kill each other and yourselves for nothing. I have no fear from a vengeful god when I die...how about you? God is not vengeful, on the ones that make an effort. He came as a lamb last time, this time it's not as a lamb dude. He's going to judge it all and take action. He's going to do what they expected him to do the first time, establish his entire kingdom for good. there has been an entire plan to all this all along. All this has a purpose, this is not random crap happening. You got to pick up that bible and read it. Alive In Jesus Christ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17030813 Australia 07/08/2013 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well..at least you toned your arrogance dowm a bit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17030813 You didnt even threaten hell and say LOL at the end like you generally do. Huh? I don't do that. You must have me confused with someone else. Yes I did. Sorry. I was thinking of that Irish idiot. But still..ive seen some of your posts in other threads in the past and you do seem to have mellowed somewhat in the last week or two. So..what sofetened you? |
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K.Kool User ID: 24614694 Australia 07/08/2013 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think you have somewhat of a misunderstanding..."behind on her dues"? No such thing exists. There isnt a specific amount of "dues" required EVER. There is "tithing" which of course is giving money to the ushers to go towards the church, but number one, this isnt technically "required" and number two its not enforced. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26559303 ^ this ^ |
fireman2013 User ID: 33747803 Australia 07/08/2013 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | he came as a lamb last time. Quoting: fireman2013 This time he will come like a lion. Those that are against him are going to be crapping them self. And that's an understatement. And what about those who never even heard of him? They going to be killed and tortured as well??? Who hasn't herd of Jesus Christ? You would have to be living under a rock yeah? We have had 2000 years Alive In Jesus Christ |
fireman2013 User ID: 33747803 Australia 07/08/2013 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | he came as a lamb last time. Quoting: fireman2013 This time he will come like a lion. Those that are against him are going to be crapping them self. And that's an understatement. And what about those who never even heard of him? They going to be killed and tortured as well??? Find me one person on the internet, or one person that can speak English, that doesn't know what the Holy bible is. Find me a human adult on planet earth that has never encountered the holy bible before. Alive In Jesus Christ |
Keep2theCode User ID: 20545539 United States 07/08/2013 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well..at least you toned your arrogance dowm a bit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17030813 You didnt even threaten hell and say LOL at the end like you generally do. Huh? I don't do that. You must have me confused with someone else. Yes I did. Sorry. I was thinking of that Irish idiot. Ok, no problem. But still..ive seen some of your posts in other threads in the past and you do seem to have mellowed somewhat in the last week or two. Quoting: So..what sofetened you? Not that I know of. In this thread I'm not having to fend off a horde of trolls, so maybe that's it. Last Edited by Keep2theCode on 07/08/2013 07:12 PM Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17030813 Australia 07/08/2013 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | he came as a lamb last time. Quoting: fireman2013 This time he will come like a lion. Those that are against him are going to be crapping them self. And that's an understatement. And what about those who never even heard of him? They going to be killed and tortured as well??? Find me one person on the internet, or one person that can speak English, that doesn't know what the Holy bible is. Find me a human adult on planet earth that has never encountered the holy bible before. So are you saying that every single human on earth has read the bible? You are very naive. Also..those who HAVE encountered it are usually put off it by the outrageous carry on of priests and pastors who say one thing and do another..and they are sickened by it...God going to burn them all alive as well because his so called reps gave him and everyhting to do with him a really bad name? |