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Hey tough guy: here are 5 fantasies that won’t come true if TSHTF | |
| Liquid_Pestilence Offer Upgrade  User ID: 26997671  United States07/11/2013 03:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States07/11/2013 04:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 40405448 United States07/11/2013 04:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The following are 5 Things People Say They would do in a Survival Situation – and why it will not work based on what has already happened to millions of people in the 3rd world: Quoting: [link to www.deathvalleymag.com] 1. Bug Out on Foot During an Urban Survival situation, I give someone about 15 minutes of walking down the street with a big-ass backpack and an AR on their chest before they get shot and robbed.... 2. Drink their Piss Take a Gatorade bottle, piss in it, leave it on your back porch for 2 days, do not drink any water during those two days and take a big gulp of warm piss.... 3. Trade for Goods Ok, it has been a few months after some whacked event has caused your city to turn into Mogadishu and you need some supplies. You get into your moms car or hoof-it 30 miles to some unfamiliar and densely inhabited area. Next you toss your box of .22’s, Johnny Walker Black and issues of Hustler on the counter hoping to make a trade for Milk and Tampons. Guess what happens to the bright eyed and bushy tailed new guy in every 3rd world Black Market? If they are lucky, they only get robbed – shanked and man raped if unlucky... 4. Eat Someone For 99.999% of people, the act of taking a chainsaw and sawing off an arm, throwing it in a pot and digging-in, is not something they could do. Even in the cases of people who have been adrift for months at sea or Iraqis trapped in their homes during the awesome invasion of Iraq, no one resorted to cannibalism. Why? Eating Long Pig is fucking disgusting, it is a psychological thing that the majority of people can not do no matter how hungry they are. It’s humanity baby, it’s what separates us from the dogs (and why eat Aunt Jenny when dogs are so delicious?). 5. Defend their House During the Jakarta riots, thousands of Chinese tried to hunker down in their houses and apartments. No matter how well fortified or heavily armed they were eventually the human waves of rioters broke in and raped, robed and/or killed them. Secure US Embassy’s, Military bases in Afghanistan and drug lord Houses in Mexico have all been taken over in resent times, proving that all buildings can and will be taken over if the opposing force is overwhelming. read the rest here: [link to www.deathvalleymag.com] Lol. Like yer style. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15825914  Australia07/11/2013 04:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're exactly correct OP. However, I would caution you against educating the SHTF/BOB retards. If they get smart then that removes our access to a series of precious resources. What are these precious resources of which I speak? Their food/water, their women and their gear. Next time, think before you post. That is all. Love always, The Lord Humungous XXX |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 41869423 United States07/11/2013 04:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 43112537 United States07/11/2013 04:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bug out will happen BEFORE, is happening now, and is being done in a way that no one notices. Or, very few. Never heard anyone say they will drink their piss. I have heard of people purchasing a five stage filter system, some mobile, for clean water. All over America, there is a thing called, Farmer's Markets where local people gather to sell their wares with each other, trade and buy. They are being created in small towns. No one is shooting, and if anyone does, they'll have fifty firearms raining bullets on them, by the local sellers, buyers, and traders. Many civilizations turned wholesale to cannibalism, after drought laid waste to crops, and hunting. The Chinese currently consider fetus soup a highly prized delicacy, as does the Queen of England. What was that again about eating an arm? It's true, you can't shoot everyone in an armed mob defending the family manse. You can however, die with dignity in the act of defending the family manse, as opposed to cringing in a corner whining like a whipped dog. But you keep on underestimating Americans. We all really want to keep the surprise factor when lockdown is foiled by 200,000,000 pissed off armed Americans. |
| R.P. McMurphy User ID: 39646008 United States07/11/2013 04:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A whole lot of mother fuckers have a whole lot of romantic notions about post-apocalyptic survival.... yet I doubt 90% of these people would even survive the first week of military boot camp let alone the collapse of civilization. It's like where I live in the Tucson area. A friend of mine thinks he's going to drive up to the top of Mount Lemon and live happily ever after in the woods. Well him and another 650,000 people have the same idea. These people will be fodder for the rest of us. Last Edited by Mike Ehrmantraut on 07/11/2013 04:13 AM "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32348185  Canada07/11/2013 04:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| HI.Lander User ID: 40407688 United States07/11/2013 04:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So true, OP. It's funny to read some of the posts by these tough guys who think they're prepared and can handle anything when TSHTF. LOL! Obviously there is nothing wrong with being prepared. But to think you're better off than anyone else because you got your guns, canned food and seeds is laughable. I'm finally going to stop drinking for good... I'll now only drink for evil. Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived. |
| Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States07/11/2013 04:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's your take on people who live on military posts? I've been debating on bugging out or in...I'm on an island so when shit does finally hit I'll likely be stuck here for a while, most likely forever.. and I do wonder what the gov will have in store for those of us on their land. I have my own ideas as to what might happen, but I'd other insights since this isn't something I can really talk about with friends Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41869423 Great question. I would say stay on the base. They have billions and billions wrapped up in toys on any military base. they will protect there investment above all else they sure as hell are not going to let a mob of civilians into the armory. I would think a military base would be a great spot to ride out some doom. "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
| banding together User ID: 8646535  Saudi Arabia07/11/2013 04:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only way people will survive is by banding together in small town & communities, by sharing resources, defenses, skills and manpower. These need to be planned from now. Small towns with string community spirits, who prepare properly will be able to defend them selves. |
| Roman Kreuziger User ID: 43181211 Australia07/11/2013 04:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Roman Kreuziger User ID: 43181211 Australia07/11/2013 04:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But to think you're better off than anyone else because you got your guns, canned food and seeds is laughable. Quoting: HI.Lander Dont have a gun, and will get most of what I need on the go. If things get as bad as you would expect, even the military will be fucked, and only a few here and there, will make it. No one really knows what will happen. I can only go on what has happened up to now. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 43020839  Japan07/11/2013 04:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 39256502 United States07/11/2013 05:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only way people will survive is by banding together in small town & communities, by sharing resources, defenses, skills and manpower. Quoting: banding together 8646535 These need to be planned from now. Small towns with string community spirits, who prepare properly will be able to defend them selves. This was what happened in 1998 riot in Jakarta/Indonesia which was designed to target the Chineses. The villages/communities with voluntary collective neighborhood watch survived the invasion of the marauding thugs looking for loots, rapes and burning/killing fest. Chineses staying at home inside these communities where together with the natives self protect the neighborhood, survived. Chineses on the public streets, escaping to the airport, got mobbed, raped and killed. Since this riot was suspected to be pre-planned by the military, some Chinese homes in business areas and apartments, not in a community neighborhood, were already tagged as the victims before the riots. These targeted Chineses suffered the rape and burning to death. Fortunately, it was just three days riot, so food was not a problem. If the riot was longer, food will become a problem since no one anticipated the riot. So, the combination of strong community spirits and the storing of enough food is the key to survive the first few days or weeks of chaos. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 43191014 United States07/11/2013 05:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only way people will survive is by banding together in small town & communities, by sharing resources, defenses, skills and manpower. Quoting: banding together 8646535 These need to be planned from now. Small towns with string community spirits, who prepare properly will be able to defend them selves. This was what happened in 1998 riot in Jakarta/Indonesia which was designed to target the Chineses. The villages/communities with voluntary collective neighborhood watch survived the invasion of the marauding thugs looking for loots, rapes and burning/killing fest. Chineses staying at home inside these communities where together with the natives self protect the neighborhood, survived. Chineses on the public streets, escaping to the airport, got mobbed, raped and killed. Since this riot was suspected to be pre-planned by the military, some Chinese homes in business areas and apartments, not in a community neighborhood, were already tagged as the victims before the riots. These targeted Chineses suffered the rape and burning to death. Fortunately, it was just three days riot, so food was not a problem. If the riot was longer, food will become a problem since no one anticipated the riot. So, the combination of strong community spirits and the storing of enough food is the key to survive the first few days or weeks of chaos. Only problem with that is its become a dog eat dog world now.Cant trust family much less neighbors.People will back stab you with out cause as it is now.Just imagine how much crazier they would become if things get worse.You better off to stay to yourself and hope they fade away before you have to deal with others. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11339483 Canada07/11/2013 05:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A whole lot of mother fuckers have a whole lot of romantic notions about post-apocalyptic survival.... yet I doubt 90% of these people would even survive the first week of military boot camp let alone the collapse of civilization. Quoting: R.P. McMurphy It's like where I live in the Tucson area. A friend of mine thinks he's going to drive up to the top of Mount Lemon and live happily ever after in the woods. Well him and another 650,000 people have the same idea. These people will be fodder for the rest of us. They would be fodder to people like you, you would kill them for some reason? you some kind of turd that can handle his own? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12086234 United States07/11/2013 05:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| CrazyEyesThreadKilla User ID: 37630778 United States07/11/2013 06:07 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glad to see that fantasy is still 100% legit! |
| Kalona User ID: 41590397 United States07/11/2013 06:12 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone says to buy gold and silver. What is the point in having gold and silver if you cant fucking buy anything with it? In a SHTF scenario all you need to worry about is surviving. A shiny piece of gold metal will be fucking useless. Epstein didn’t kill himself. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 43147086 United States07/11/2013 06:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14016885 United States07/11/2013 06:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is nothing wrong with making preparations. This is what all your ancestors did and was the norm until very recently. That being said, all you doing is adding a few percentage points to your chances of surviving - it guarantees nothing. Fate and skills will play a larger role than anything you collect |
| indiandave User ID: 27213312 United States07/11/2013 07:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a book called Surviving the Economic Collapse by Fernando Aguirre. This book deals with the hyper inflation and collapse of the economy in Argentina. A lot of stuff didn't happen the way most preppers here think it would go. It's a good read. Mr. Aguirre wrote the book in Spanish and did the translation himself. Some things you have to read more than once to get what he is saying. Remember, very little will go the way you think it will go. be ready for the unexpected. If that's possible at all. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 43194425  United Kingdom07/11/2013 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nonesense there is plenty of scope for 'a future' with even a lot more people than at present. This is true even with current tech, let alone a tech singularity - it plays right into the hands of TPTB to create scare stories that demand someone needs to take control of everything lest it all go to pot. As for survival post TSHTF - first priority is basic survival during the first few months whilst 90%+ die off. After that you will need to be part of a self sufficient defensible community - able to ward off attacks from roving gangs of maybe several hundred. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42964619 United States07/11/2013 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Survival is a mental strategy. Being materially prepared for a collapse is one thing. Being able to,cope with finding your entire family dead, then continuing to function, is another. Survival mentality is a subconscious act. Like the boxer who does not remember the fight. Most people would perish in a bad scenario. The real test would be rebuilding on the other side. |
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