Removal of Attachments...of Spiritual Lines and Hooks and Pain

Ive been removing attachments from my life subconciously for almost 6 months now for some reason, and i have to admit i am definitely feeling like i am on the right path to a much better lifestyle. Something is pushing me in a direction to remove the need for material things and negative people! I dont know what it is but im grabing hold and letting the wind take me.
Only problem is, i cant dream. I smoke to much cannibus, but a break is coming soon. Im jealous, i love dreaming, ive also had some intense dreams where i re-united with my german shepherd that was taken from me, so thanks for that im more motivated to get back to dreaming again!

Interesting thread and dream...

I suppose you won't go out fishing anymore?

Some might be curious as to how lucid dream states can be of spiritual growth. It seems like saying that might feel a little abstract, but in truth,the experiences can be quite the opposite.

Last night, I began dreaming of fishing with some of my old friends. Fucking hooks. Lines got tangled and I tried to disentangle them, and I was constantly being hooked multiple times, everywhere on my body. And, they were of every size and make. And, it hurt.

I became lucid and the lines and hooks were everywhere. No matter where I went, I would get tangled in them, and the hooks would pierce me. As I was painfully removing one, because of my movement one or more would hook me again. And, every time I tried to disentangle the lines from around me, it would pull the hooks that were hooked in me and would increase the pain and discomfort.

So, being lucid, I stopped struggling with it all and tried to figure it out. While I stopped and began puzzling it out, I became less entangled, and I began walking again down a dark tunnel like path through a nasty looking forest. As I was walking I began accumulating fishing lines and hooks again and was painfully entangled all over again.

When lucid, sometimes I ask my higher self to give me some clue about what is going on (most times I ask my higher self to start the next experience I am in need of for growth). A female appeared, very faint and hardly noticeable. All I could see was a face floating within my conscious.

"It is simple," she said. "These are your attachments."

It was like a bomb of "AHA!!!" moments streaked through me.

I began walking away, and the lines grew taught, and the hooks pulled painfully at my skin, all over my body. One by one, as I walked, I felt the specific pulling of a line and the hook that was associated with that line. It is strange, because I was feeling each individual line corresponding with its specific hook by the pain that it drew. I felt them all at the same time, tightening, pulling, bringing specific pain...but, the difference was the differing strength of tension on each line brought a specific amount of pain to an area of my body that that hook was in.

I kept walking, and when I noticed that the line was taught enough, and the pain sharp enough, I found I could give a 'pulse', like a hard jerk, to rip the hook from me. After a while, it became less painful, as I was consciously figuring out how to remove the pain from the experience with each 'jerk' and removal. They began sliding off of me instead of being ripped from me. The pain began dissolving, and a feeling of 'light' was replacing the pain. Then, at a certain point, all of the lines and hooks just fell off of me as I continued walking down this dark forest path.

It was like I was light as a feather. I was free of attachments. This is where the experience becomes hard to express because of the feeling of being removed from all attachments. It is beautiful.

Wow, that is an intensely awesome experience of release!

I'm a fisherman. I love fishing. I will continue to, lol

Desire is the root of all suffering, whether it is material or desired outcomes. I believe it is a main tenet of Buddhist belief. They are not wrong.

I want to get this into my list for work-reading later

Ty for another great thread!

My sister came across the country to visit me last year, and we had a particularly rough time with a lot of childhood issues and family relationship dynamics coming into play.

After she left, when I tried to sort out what craziness had just happened, I had a huge healing cry and was told in my mind that it was time for me to release my attachments -- that I had grown beyond them.

In a lucid vision, in which I was mindful of drawing on my Spark of God, I had visions of threads, translucent lines, like fishing lines, that attached me to my family, friends, and antagonists throughout my life.

I knew what I had to do, and with big golden scissors, I cut each of these lines with a blessing for the other person and for myself. I released attachment to each person, ending our karmic relationships. I felt so free.

Deep down inside you know fine well its more real than here.
Too much to it than to be a little bit of a fancy... of course.
Some People are at a very important stage of their being..
people think im saying that there are special people and that most are not.
That is not how it works.
some are special, right now

Why do some people have lucid dreams and others do not?
Do they have a different dna or genes?

Does your soul or consciousness contains dna?

I have yet to jump in like I did, as it is extreme to the mind. Now, I have lucid dreams whenever I wish to, most nights still, but there is a way of making the waking conscious less involved and more backgrounded. It is too difficult to describe. But, with the removal of fear and panic from the experiences, they become much more productive and 'fun'.

Deep down inside you know fine well its more real than here.
Too much to it than to be a little bit of a fancy... of course.
Some People are at a very important stage of their being..
people think im saying that there are special people and that most are not.
That is not how it works.
some are special, right now

I think a cycle...a circuit, was completed last night. I know it was for me.

Everything can seem so complex at times, but when you manifest in separate aspects, and experience the convergence points, you end up noticing how the gears fit. The convergence points can be likened to where the multidimensional gears 'touch' and cause movement across the system.

We fly through life, heading our various directions and destinies, and eventually come across a convergence point...another wheel in the cog, and actions or individual events are undertaken that may seem small, minor, or insignificant, until you experience yourself as other manifestations. A door opened, a door closed, a window left unlocked, at just the right moment changes the course of events in the cog.

Imagine, a massive system of overlying and entangled destinies, of life, events, organizations, spirits, and species...all entangled in a myopic quantum soup of relationship...and One not 'seeing' where the cogs touch, where that door should be left opened, a window unlocked...but having experienced the original cog, the original relationship, and existing as a separate entity and KNOWING when exactly to leave a door open, because it was Him that had needed that door opened in a previous incarnation and something had left that door opened...which is He in a soon to come incarnation.

How would someone...how would a nobody prepare his current incarnation and have all His bases covered without even thinking about it? Because He is incarnate in separate entities in different places outside of Time, but all active and current in THIS time.

A cycle was completed last night. A circuit. A beginning, and an end. All played out in the non-material, in different minds and incarnations, played out in the same time, but different places in time...different minds, ALL converging at the quantum moment of manifestation into the single universe of the material.

I played it all out last night. It is a single looong dream, that I played out in multiple incarnations. It was a re-occurring dream, that I never noticed was played by myself as many different actors.

Last night, I was the final actor...the final piece, the one that joined all the other actors into one event. All the gears and cogs were finally set in place. All the actors were in their places. All the time signatures and individual events were placed, and the final piece...the final actor, played out the dream and opened and closed all the correct events for the final actor to reach his full manifestation.

Again, this was not just a reoccurring dream, but I played many different actors at different times throughout the years of my life. Last night, though I did not know it until the end, I played the final actor.

Going from nothing...to everything.

At the end of the experience, I found myself in a spherical room, with all these different events playing outside the sphere...ALL the different events, it was merely just a focusing on which event I wanted to experience, to view it.

Inside the sphere was my family...they looked like my present family, but somehow they weren't. The last memory was of my father. I looked into his face. Into his eyes, and he drew me into his seeing orb. At first, the pupil of his eye was blurry, unfocused, but I was able to use the same 'power', the same force I had used to complete the multi-faceted dream...and focus his pupil into clarity. Once that was done, I was pulled into our Father's mind through His eYe, and was inverted into His dreams.

Desire is the root of all suffering, whether it is material or desired outcomes. I believe it is a main tenet of Buddhist belief. They are not wrong.

You know I sense letting those attachments loose cover minor doable ones, but some of those others now..wow, I think the truth is attachments fall away on their own as part of a more encompassing process..

There has to be empathy/the world suffering reaching your heart.
Some things are too much. Personally when I look into all this destruction of innocent life without defenses it feels very personal and am flattened for a few weeks.

So what's the alternative to detaching (I can't) in the face of it all.
The answer imho has to lie in "outgrowing" attachments with some kind of perspective that would be effortless.

How many kinds of attachments are there?
I removed a lot already...

But how about feeling guilty? Is that an attachment too?

I think one of the worst. Along par with feeling pity of self. That can be a major attachment and one of the most difficult to reconcile with.

Fuck..I pity myself a lot.

But I do agree with integrity, empathy and transparency...

How about dignity?

Dignity is a tough one, as it can be applied to various things. For example, it can be related to vanity in some instances. But, it also can be applied to a type of integrity as well. Ego. Etc.

I pitied myself at a certain point, and it was one of the largest blockages I have ever been through. I was going to make a thread about self-pity and how debilitating it is when pursuing growth.

But you didn't?

Yes, dignity and vanity are sometimes very close. For instance when you donate to 'the poor' you show dignity but instead you feel proud of what you did...(maybe wrong example)

I pity myself for getting rid of too many attachments. But I did it myself.
So what to do when there are no attachments left?

What is the last attachment? Death?

I suppose it depends. Attachments are constant until you reach a certain level of spiritual awareness. Even death does not mean much.

Here is a good example. It is ok to 'own' things. But, you cannot get 'attached' to them. And, you cannot get attached to the desire of having more and more.

If you were to lose it all, it would not emotionally crush you, because you knew not to get attached to having particular things.

In this era, this is all a very difficult thing to do, because we are bombarded every day with companies, organizations, government, etc pushing and pushing us to own stuff, and if you don't, then you are not cool or hip, or whatever. This drives our desire. Which then transforms to attachment of the things desired once they are owned. And it is cyclical.

No, I haven't written a thread on how bad self-pity is. Perhaps I need to, as I view it most damaging to growth. It is a trap that is extremely difficult to pull out of.