The Two Witnesses ARE here.

Another saying by the Savior emphasizing the need to correct the fall of duality. RML, I know I will never die as I have found the Living One before death.

“Yeshua saw some babies nursing. He said to his students,
These nursing babies
are like those who enter the kingdom.
They said to him,
Then shall we enter the kingdom as babies?

Yeshua said to them,
When you make the two into one,
and when you make the inner like the outer
and the outer like the inner
and the upper like the lower,
and when you make male and female into a single one,
so that the male will not be male nor the female be female,
when you make eyes in place of an eye,
a hand in place of a hand,
a foot in place of a foot,
an image in place of an image,
then you will enter the kingdom.28”

[9] And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. [10] And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for [his] only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn. - Zec 12:9-10 KJV

I am sorry, English is not my first language.
It is very hard to express those topics properly in a foreign language, but I think you understood me well my friend.

Yes, I think this is simply coming back to a state where we have already been at the very beginning of our life.

Would very well match the re-born theme as well.

One Love,
D.

That makes a heck of a lot of sense!
Thanks for sharing.

One Love,
D.

Interesting. I do know that the 144,000 will most likely not face death. Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. (Matthew 16:28) Thus, they will be alive when our Saviour returns on the clouds. It is VERY clear in numerous Scriptures that the Elect will be on earth during tribulation. Numerous Scriptures indicate that they are protected during this time.

May God Bless you,
RockyMtnLady

You're welcome.

In this world our flesh is superior to the clothes we wear. In my Father's Kingdom the clothes are superior to the one wearing them. What are the clothes?

I know this isn't intended for me, but I wear rags.

RockyMtnLady

I am not referencing death of the flesh, rather finding and becoming part of the Living One before death. That is the 'key' to everlasting life. The Savior showed us the 'way'. All one must do is follow in His footsteps.

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Spiritually, it is about killing the Old Man in us to be a part of the "Second Coming" or Parousia. He did show us the way....too bad most are stuck in one false doctrine or another so can't see it. I cry for the blind people.

RockyMtnLady

God created 'us' in His image. When will humanity realize and lay claim to the divine inheritance that awaits for all of us? That being divine sons and daughters of God.

Is it not written in the Laws that 'we' are Gods?

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All,

I prayed tonight for guidance and God Almighty pointed me to His Word first....looking at many Scriptures. Then, I randomly clicked on the other Two Witnesses thread and read this from PJ. I feel inclined to post it here:

The true meaning of Mat 24:29:

"But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken."

Before the tribulation (and not during it as false spirits teach) God's two witnesses will proclaim God's truth against all churches, cults and denominations of todays Christianity as a last warning to them by God, and that truth is called everlasting gospel because it will not be allowed anymore for any false spirits to overcome God's people and trample truth under their feet.

Only 144000 people will take faith in the everlasting gospel before the tribulation, so the rest of the world's population must go through those coming days of sorrows without any hope in God, and 2/3 third of mankind will perish.

When those days of the tribulation have ended all mankind will see that what day were warned about by God's witnesses came true, and they will also see that the rising sun (God) became black over false Christianity. In that way they will see that there is no mercy for those who belong in the heaven that is changed and perishes. So understand this, that when it is said that the sun is darkened it means that there is no more grace from God for those who reject the testimony of His two witnesses. In that way the stars fall down, for these stars are the angels who in Rev 12:9 are said to be cast down from heaven. These angels are people who are involved in the fallen-away and false Christinity. The moon symbolizes that the Law does not give these people any light, for in their faith the third part of the of the moon is smitten, as told in Rev 8:12. This means that their gospel is definitely not the full gospel of God, but a false gospel that cannot save.

So when these truths are come true the heavens are shaken, which means that false Christianity is shaken and destroyed! Therefore, leave it before it is too late! Come out of Babylon, you who seek the Lord.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

God Bless you all,
RockyMtnLady

Hmm... This is a tricky one... but I'll try.

In this world , we pay more attention to the people / ourselves rather than the emanation of the Spirit. In the Kingdom, the spirit prevails.

Clothes are literally something that we wear, that is not part of the flesh / body. We have the choice to wear whatever we want. (Free will)

The message of the spirit must prevail over the messenger wearing it.

One Love,
D.

John tells us what Christ was clothed in, "And the word became flesh." His clothes superior in every aspect, both above and below. The Savior came to us as an 'image' from the above intercoursing with the below.

Light mingles with Light
The Word mingles with the Word
The Spirit intercourses with a spirit

You're a part of Him. You're His creation. When you become part of Him again you will become like Him. The Savior showed us how.

Psalm 82


6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

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Hi there,

Thank you for this. I was just wondering what you meant by posting this Scripture and the last you posted? I see it was in response to something about the Two Witnesses but not sure exactly what you meant.

Thanks in advance!
RockyMtnLady

It seems to me that this is not directed at the Man Child. Psalms are tricky but I have noticed that the verses directed toward the "Director of Music" are geared to the Man Child.

RockyMtnLady

This speaks to all of us. We all have the potential, as written in the Law, to become like God, Ye are Gods. We all have the potential to help rule in His Kingdom. That was and is the Good News that the Savior taught.

This truth has been ever so repressed by the Churches of Men. We were created in His image for a reason. When we get back to Him is when we become like Him. The Savior showed us the 'way'.

Please consider the following as message to the manchild:

Zec 04:14
Then said he, “These are the two anointed ones, who stand by the Lord of the whole earth.”

Psalm 83:19
And may they know that you are by your name YHWH alone,
the Most High / over all the earth.

One Love,
D.

"Then he cried in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause ye them that have charge over the city to draw near, every man with his destroying weapon in his hand. And behold, six men came from the way of the upper gate, which lieth toward the north, every man with his slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man in the midst of them clothed in linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side. And they went in, and stood beside the brazen altar. And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon it was, to the threshold of the house: and he called to the man clothed in linen, who had the writer's inkhorn by his side. And Jehovah said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry over all the abominations that are done in the midst thereof. And to the others he said in my hearing, Go ye through the city after him, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity; slay utterly the old man, the young man and the virgin, and little children and women; but come not near any man upon whom is the mark: and begin at my sanctuary.

The man in the midst of them clothed in linen is the man child who has the seal of the living God.

God said: "Until I make thine enemies thy footstool." These words mean that God will subdue His enemies but not before the point of time is come that "until" points to. We know from Rev 13:5 that falsehood was given "42 months" to fulfill its measure of iniquity. When that measure is full, the time is also come when "until" has relevance.

What then happens is that the man child comes with the seal of the Living God in his hands and wages war on the falsehood that once destroyed the true apostolic church. This becomes the war in heaven (Rev 12:7), and in that war the following prophecy comes true (Mat 8:12):

but the sons of the kingdom shall be cast forth into the outer darkness: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.

In this way God makes the enemies of Jesus Christ his footstool, for He will trample on them and make them low. When this is done, Jesus Christ again takes power over His true word, which has been so misused, and makes it again into a life-giving power. So, understand that in this way Jesus through the man child and the two witnesses brings and gives the rule of the kingdom back to God Almighy, and in this way the enemies are made into footstool.

The Branch meant here, that grows up out of his place, is the Branch that Isa 11:1 speaks of:
And there shall come forth a shoot out of the stock of Jesse, and a branch out of his roots shall bear fruit.

He is the man child of Rev 12:5, and he comes forth out of the roots of Jesus Christ, from the “ruins” of His fallen-away church. The four men, Helem, Tobijah, Jedaiah, and Hen symbolize the two witnesses and their two workmates. Thus comes true what is said in Rev 3:21:
He that overcometh, I will give to him to sit down with me in my throne, as I also overcame, and sat down with my Father in his throne.

And understand that this takes place before the day of the great judgment, namely when the true kingdom of God comes in the midst of NT time. Then there is no more place for the false church, as said in Mat 8:12:
but the sons of the kingdom shall be cast forth into the outer darkness: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.

Thus, the Man child is the 144,000, not the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11.3.
RockyMtnLady

My point, exactly.
The man child is told that the 2 witnesses will recognize him for it is not him who will proclaim who he is.

One Love,
D.

Sorry RML... Maybe my statement isn't very clear.

Zec 04:14
Then said he, “These are the two anointed ones, who stand by the Lord of the whole earth.”

>> The 2 witnesses are revealed to the man child by God. It seems clear in that sentence that God is directly pointing at them.

Psalm 83:19
And may they know that you are by your name YHWH alone,
the Most High / over all the earth.

>> This one means that the 2 witnesses will both recognize the manchild when the time is right. this is how I understand the "may they know".

My theory anyway. ;)

One Love,
D.

Gotcha! I believe you also are correct.
May God Bless you....I believe He is revealing remarkable things to you. Stay strong!

RockyMtnLady

Thank you for your kind words.

May God bless you too.

One Love,
D.

It has been given to me to take a "hiatus" of sorts.

Wish you all well.

RockyMtnLady