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Message Subject Simple yet profound question for Freemasons...
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Was Leon Davin a Masonic author or not? Micheal Tsarion claims he is, I'll take his word over yours unless you can prove otherwise?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12615535


I'm not giving you my word, you fool. I'm giving you the words of Masons themselves in their own books. There are encyclopedic works listed on those sites in which the allegories and symbols are spelled out in plain language, degree by degree.
 Quoting: DrSalt


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12615535


You're giving me your word about what?

You said, "I'll take his word over yours." And to that I replied, "I'm not giving you my word, you fool."

Was Leon Davin a Masonic author or not? Yes or no?

He is a Masonic author. And, you should consult the other Masonic authors whose works are listed on the sites for which I provided you links.

Is the following statement true or false:

You don't know what anything is above you in Freemasonry until you get there because it's a secret.

False. Masons or non-masons can easily read once-secret Masonic books that describe in minute detail the rituals of all degrees. Further, one can read in Masonic encyclopedias precisely what the symbols and allegories mean.

The fact is, if you're not at the top degree of Freemasonry you can't answer the above question because:

This is not a fact. Once upon a time Masonic books were not available to any and all. They are today.

1. You don't know what the contents of the top degree of Freemasonry is until you get there.

False. Again, you can easily read what those contents are if you take the time to research Masonic literature.

2. If you were there you'd be sworn to secrecy about almost anything concerning the top degree.

False. You are sworn to secrecy not to divulge passwords and handshakes that grant you access to places and events. What used to be secret content is now openly taught at universities, where once such things could only be discussed in whispers because of the intellectual stranglehold exercised by dogmatic Christians.

Therefore, you're trying to totally BS everyone on this, period.

Nonsense. You are woefully uninformed.
 Quoting: DrSalt


As to Freemasonry, I believe that their rituals and signs and initiations should remain within their organization. And that peoples inaccurate fears about them are unwarranted cause many of the lies you hear are simply not true. Lies are created by enemies or disgruntled people that could not get in.

Its secret for a reason, to be experienced, to not spoil it. To allow members to do the work and initiations and to learn its symbolisms under Providence.
 Quoting: SHINING PROVIDENCE
 
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