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TIME Magazine Glamorizes Life Without Children

 
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TIME Magazine Glamorizes Life Without Children
Time’s upcoming August 12, 2013 issue depicts a smiling couple lying together on a sandy white beach under the headline “The Childfree Life: When Having It All Means Not Having Children.”

The article begins with a story about a woman who decided she never wanted to have children, and further, never regretted that decision, followed by a weighty discussion of how our nation’s birthrate is currently the lowest it has ever been in its history:

“From 2007 to 2011, the most recent year for which there’s data, the fertility rate declined 9%. A 2010 Pew Research report showed that childlessness has risen across all racial and ethnic groups, adding up to about 1 in 5 American women who end their childbearing years maternity-free, compared with 1 in 10 in the 1970s.”

This ‘Childfree Life’s’ main agenda, as if you couldn’t guess it from the cover, only gets more obvious from there. It discusses the expense of having a child, noting that:

“…the sheer economic cost of raising a child—for a child born in 2011, an average of $234,900 until age 18, according to the USDA, and $390,000 if your household earns over $100,000—has made motherhood a formidable prospect for some women.”


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My position on this heated argument: I have a 5 year old Son, I wouldn't have it any other way. Life in the 21st century isn't perfect, but there has never been a century where it has. If you want kids, you should have them, they're great and your life will improve as a result. If you don't want kids, you shouldn't have them and should have the freedom to pursue other things in life.

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if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world?
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if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world?
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That's a dumb thing to say.
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Depopulate the elites future paradise...
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if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world?
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Because it is God's decision whether a baby is conceived, not ours.

and life is life-affirming!!!
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if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world?
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I guess you're happily kid free then?

Tell me something. Are you simply afraid of the world, reactionary to events and problems, Are making a change in the world with impact greater then proliferating your ideas and morality in the world by having kids, or do you use that phrase to cover up the fact your self serving, or is it something else?

Make me understand. I've heard this phrase by many people who are choosing to be child free, and it seems to be a catch all phrase, usually without meaning behind it or thought behind it.
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The smart, educated, well-bred people have stopped reproducing.

The not-so-bright Rachel Jeantels of the world are breeding like rabbits.

We are *LIVING* "Idiocracy."

Scary times indeed.
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if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world?
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That's a dumb thing to say.
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No, it's called not being a jackass and thinking about more than your self.
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if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world?
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I guess you're happily kid free then?

Tell me something. Are you simply afraid of the world, reactionary to events and problems, Are making a change in the world with impact greater then proliferating your ideas and morality in the world by having kids, or do you use that phrase to cover up the fact your self serving, or is it something else?

Make me understand. I've heard this phrase by many people who are choosing to be child free, and it seems to be a catch all phrase, usually without meaning behind it or thought behind it.
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Do you read the posts on here?

Let's take some random posts...

the air force is spraying the planet with chemicals, the government is poisoning the water, the cia is attacking me with directed energy, homeland security is planting bombs at events and hiring crisis actors...etc...

Now, go back and read what I said.
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if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world?
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That's a dumb thing to say.
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No, it's called not being a jackass and thinking about more than your self.
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Hear, hear! I also think far too many people breed WITHOUT considering the consequences or anything other than themselves. Kids can be wonderful, but they do grow up...and there are far too many who have them for the wrong, selfish reasons.
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The smart, educated, well-bred people have stopped reproducing.

The not-so-bright Rachel Jeantels of the world are breeding like rabbits.

We are *LIVING* "Idiocracy."

Scary times indeed.
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unfortunately true
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Im 27 I really rather not bring a child into the world until I can really afford it. I dont want to struggle as my parents did...I want to send my kids to private school since common core crap will be the future. I want to make sure I can pay for their college...I want to give them the best start and its not fair for me to have a child and not be able to do that. I think many people feel as I do.
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if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world?
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That's a dumb thing to say.
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No, it's called not being a jackass and thinking about more than your self.
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Lol, no you're being a defeatist and it's very unnatural to actually promote eliminating one's own species.

There have been so many more times in history that have been worse than this. Yes the 21st century has its problems, but so did Rome and the middle ages.

Would it be right to have a child knowing they could grow up into slavery? Well people have been doing it for 1000's of years. It's how we keep going.

It's not about being selfish, it's about giving.

Smarten up.

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Im 27 I really rather not bring a child into the world until I can really afford it. I dont want to struggle as my parents did...I want to send my kids to private school since common core crap will be the future. I want to make sure I can pay for their college...I want to give them the best start and its not fair for me to have a child and not be able to do that. I think many people feel as I do.
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this is a good point. how to educate the child is a bigger concern now.
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if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world?
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I guess you're happily kid free then?

Tell me something. Are you simply afraid of the world, reactionary to events and problems, Are making a change in the world with impact greater then proliferating your ideas and morality in the world by having kids, or do you use that phrase to cover up the fact your self serving, or is it something else?

Make me understand. I've heard this phrase by many people who are choosing to be child free, and it seems to be a catch all phrase, usually without meaning behind it or thought behind it.
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Do you read the posts on here?

Let's take some random posts...

the air force is spraying the planet with chemicals, the government is poisoning the water, the cia is attacking me with directed energy, homeland security is planting bombs at events and hiring crisis actors...etc...

Now, go back and read what I said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44059275


Don't be a coward.

There have been other times that are much worse then now.
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The smart, educated, well-bred people have stopped reproducing.

The not-so-bright Rachel Jeantels of the world are breeding like rabbits.

We are *LIVING* "Idiocracy."

Scary times indeed.
 Quoting: Hope_Full


unfortunately true
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Kids are a joy, If I had quadruple the money I have now. I would have over a dozen kids.
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Why would you welcome a child into a lifetime of slavery?
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Im 27 I really rather not bring a child into the world until I can really afford it. I dont want to struggle as my parents did...I want to send my kids to private school since common core crap will be the future. I want to make sure I can pay for their college...I want to give them the best start and its not fair for me to have a child and not be able to do that. I think many people feel as I do.
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this is a good point. how to educate the child is a bigger concern now.
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Try talking to them, it's amazing how it works.

I have a Son and it's the greatest thing you can imagine. It does take effort, but it will complete your life and make you a better person for it.

That boy, my Son would not exist today if I had these thoughts.. would I if I had the choice simply wave my hand and make him disappear?
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antinatalism

The belief that life is suffering therefore it is immoral to bring a new life into the world
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The smart, educated, well-bred people have stopped reproducing.

The not-so-bright Rachel Jeantels of the world are breeding like rabbits.

We are *LIVING* "Idiocracy."

Scary times indeed.
 Quoting: Hope_Full


unfortunately true
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Kids are a joy, If I had quadruple the money I have now. I would have over a dozen kids.
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yeah, that's the problem, only the poor and ignorant are reproducing. you say IF YOU HAD the money, which makes you intelligent for planning ahead and actually thinking of consequences of having them beyond your means. Unfortunately, people aren't thinking like that and just breeding bc they are careless or want society to support them. :(
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if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world?
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That's a dumb thing to say.
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No, it's called not being a jackass and thinking about more than your self.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44059275


Hear, hear! I also think far too many people breed WITHOUT considering the consequences or anything other than themselves. Kids can be wonderful, but they do grow up...and there are far too many who have them for the wrong, selfish reasons.
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Yes, Personal Responsibility is a problem in the world, and I agree with you on that point, but I do not agree that it is selfish to actually raise a child. It's very difficult, and requires a person,(Assuming they're taking responsibility.) to give up a lot of the young adult personal pleasure, and forces them to think less hedonistic. A good parent's only guilty of selfishness in that they wish to proliferate their ideas, values, and genetic code beyond the time of their life. Is that really selfish if those things have a positive impact in the world?
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The smart, educated, well-bred people have stopped reproducing.

The not-so-bright Rachel Jeantels of the world are breeding like rabbits.

We are *LIVING* "Idiocracy."

Scary times indeed.
 Quoting: Hope_Full


Yes, unfortunately you always have a rich couple who only have one kid and name him something like Simon Georgie Poindexterous the III. and hes underweight, pasty and withdrawn and wears glasses. Parents send him to boarding school and he lives off of daddies money

I miss the days of our Pioneer, farm women. They would gladly birth 5 or more strong sons to work the farm.

Wed never have the peak and prosperity if it werent for these women.

Now, say goodbye to the America we once knew.
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The smart, educated, well-bred people have stopped reproducing.

The not-so-bright Rachel Jeantels of the world are breeding like rabbits.

We are *LIVING* "Idiocracy."

Scary times indeed.
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we are completely living in idiocracy

There are so many shows on tv that could just change there name to "Ow My Balls"

We sell water with electrolytes... Brawndo

If you are intelligent you are a 'tard
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Im 27 I really rather not bring a child into the world until I can really afford it. I dont want to struggle as my parents did...I want to send my kids to private school since common core crap will be the future. I want to make sure I can pay for their college...I want to give them the best start and its not fair for me to have a child and not be able to do that. I think many people feel as I do.
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this is a good point. how to educate the child is a bigger concern now.
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Yes, education and economics make it difficult to do the right thing these days. Though, if this person is thinking about this, and doesn't have kids presently, I really hope they get to a place where they can pro-create. Good responsible people! I want more of them on the earth! :)
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if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world?
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Because each soul brought into this world has potential to change it. Why would you deny such a potential, unless you know deep inside of yourself you would not be able to provide those children with the knowledge and wisdom to do so.
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I made a decision very early in life (age 5 years) that it would be irrational to bring children into this world. I also rejected the idea of marriage given the fact that the institution of marriage had been perverted to the point were normal relations between women and men were no longer possible.

My general feeling was I didn't want to take part and I certainly didn't want to bring others into a world of fear and hate. Though I did end up bringing two children into the world unintentionally, I always felt I had done them a dis service by doing so and feel responsible for what the are going through now as adults. My reluctance to father children was not selfish at all because I do really care for children
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The smart, educated, well-bred people have stopped reproducing.

The not-so-bright Rachel Jeantels of the world are breeding like rabbits.

We are *LIVING* "Idiocracy."

Scary times indeed.
 Quoting: Hope_Full


unfortunately true
 Quoting: eekers


Kids are a joy, If I had quadruple the money I have now. I would have over a dozen kids.
 Quoting: SHINING PROVIDENCE


yeah, that's the problem, only the poor and ignorant are reproducing. you say IF YOU HAD the money, which makes you intelligent for planning ahead and actually thinking of consequences of having them beyond your means. Unfortunately, people aren't thinking like that and just breeding bc they are careless or want society to support them. :(
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Eekers, true, But I will explain the socio instinctual behavior of the poor. In the face of crises or poverty or lack, humans will instinctly have many kids . Having many kids is actually a insurance of sorts. Every creature that has high mortality rate and lives in a dangerous enviroment will have many babies. Think cats, turtles, fish, etc..

so say you have five or more kids. Chances are one of them will be successful and will be able to help out his parents and siblings . Its a retirement insurance so to speak for the parents.

If a family in crushing poverty, chances are too risky that , that child will turn out loser and then the whole genetic line is doomed

Theres many rich affluent people who have only had one kid who turned out lazy, lethargic, un ambitious or who has contributed nothing to society.

Its just human nature to survive the genetic line at whatever cost it takes, Rich arent panicking, the poor are, If the table are ever turned in another crushing depression, then what? A rich persons lineage will disappear and the others will take over.

Our pilgrims and pioneer women had many children in the face of poverty and its what built America.
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I made a decision very early in life (age 5 years) that it would be irrational to bring children into this world. I also rejected the idea of marriage given the fact that the institution of marriage had been perverted to the point were normal relations between women and men were no longer possible.

My general feeling was I didn't want to take part and I certainly didn't want to bring others into a world of fear and hate. Though I did end up bringing two children into the world unintentionally, I always felt I had done them a dis service by doing so and feel responsible for what the are going through now as adults. My reluctance to father children was not selfish at all because I do really care for children
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What?

Not that I don't agree that our popular culture has some value problems, but I don't identify myself with popular culture.

So, you don't want to bring people into the world because you don't agree with the culture / system of values.

You accidentally slipped you genetic material in another human being without taking any selfish pleasure.

Now you have two kids, and because you disagree so much with these cultural ideals, you abandon your children to be brought up in those values.


Please explain to me how this is not selfish?
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if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world?
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Because each soul brought into this world has potential to change it. Why would you deny such a potential, unless you know deep inside of yourself you would not be able to provide those children with the knowledge and wisdom to do so.
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So, if you were a Jew living in Nazi Germany what would you do?

"Hmmmm, look, they are taking our people to the camps...you know what, let's have a child, he might be Superman and save the world!"

1rof1

If you have already procreated, please, stop what you are doing right now, and go directly to jail. Do not pass Go, and do not collect $200.
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if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world?
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Because each soul brought into this world has potential to change it. Why would you deny such a potential, unless you know deep inside of yourself you would not be able to provide those children with the knowledge and wisdom to do so.
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Its always been a duty for a Jewish person to have children under the command of Genesis in the chance of birthing Moshiach

The concept of Messiah being conceived miraculously by God without human father is christian based , not Jew.
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kids are expensive, it's obvious from the stats
no possible recovery for the economy for the middle/lower class, pretty clear what will follow





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