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Human beings must also be born of fire and water in order to enter into this higher state of consciousness called the Kingdom of God | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 44731426  Switzerland08/07/2013 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Human beings must also be born of fire and water in order to enter into this higher state of consciousness called the Kingdom of God "To Nicodemus, the Israelite doctor who came one night to question him, Jesus responded: ‘Very truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit.’ This verse corresponds to a verse in the beginning of Genesis: ‘And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.’ In both of these, it is the phenomenon of birth which is evoked: the birth of the universe and the spiritual birth of the human being. In both we find the same elements: fire (spirit) and water (matter). Just as the universe was born of fire and water, human beings must also be born of fire and water in order to enter into this higher state of consciousness called the Kingdom of God, because transposed onto the spiritual plane, fire represents wisdom and water represents love. "  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 44602810  United States08/07/2013 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Human beings must also be born of fire and water in order to enter into this higher state of consciousness called the Kingdom of God "To Nicodemus, the Israelite doctor who came one night to question him, Jesus responded: ‘Very truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit.’ This verse corresponds to a verse in the beginning of Genesis: ‘And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.’ In both of these, it is the phenomenon of birth which is evoked: the birth of the universe and the spiritual birth of the human being. In both we find the same elements: fire (spirit) and water (matter). Just as the universe was born of fire and water, human beings must also be born of fire and water in order to enter into this higher state of consciousness called the Kingdom of God, because transposed onto the spiritual plane, fire represents wisdom and water represents love. " Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44731426 and this is represented by the two baptism, one by water, and by fire, and actually the initiate of Egypt when tested to become a priest was tried by the four elements, when man is raised from dead, it is done through fire, like the phoenix, the risen Lazarus |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37911089 United States08/07/2013 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Human beings must also be born of fire and water in order to enter into this higher state of consciousness called the Kingdom of God You know, if any sufficiently advanced civilization had read this quote, and determined humans think they are born of "Fire" and "Water", it all sounds like a bunch of horseshit and makes everyone involved just sound retarded. Seriously - tell me this doesn't sound absolutely ass-hat: This Jewish guy who was son of an imaginary being that no one can see, hear of feel, can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and drink his blood and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree. Did I get that right? |
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| Aspirant~ User ID: 3769720 United States08/07/2013 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Human beings must also be born of fire and water in order to enter into this higher state of consciousness called the Kingdom of God You can't possibly understand the fire baptism within the standard biblical context... Orig. Member ID: 16669 8/14/05~ All inflammatory & provocative posts by above user are for entertainment purposes only & do not necessarily represent the views of said poster~ |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 44471425  United Kingdom08/07/2013 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Human beings must also be born of fire and water in order to enter into this higher state of consciousness called the Kingdom of God "To Nicodemus, the Israelite doctor who came one night to question him, Jesus responded: ‘Very truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit.’ This verse corresponds to a verse in the beginning of Genesis: ‘And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.’ In both of these, it is the phenomenon of birth which is evoked: the birth of the universe and the spiritual birth of the human being. In both we find the same elements: fire (spirit) and water (matter). Just as the universe was born of fire and water, human beings must also be born of fire and water in order to enter into this higher state of consciousness called the Kingdom of God, because transposed onto the spiritual plane, fire represents wisdom and water represents love. " Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44731426 mythos and logos? |
| Jamster User ID: 7815902 United States08/07/2013 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Human beings must also be born of fire and water in order to enter into this higher state of consciousness called the Kingdom of God "To Nicodemus, the Israelite doctor who came one night to question him, Jesus responded: ‘Very truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit.’ This verse corresponds to a verse in the beginning of Genesis: ‘And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.’ In both of these, it is the phenomenon of birth which is evoked: the birth of the universe and the spiritual birth of the human being. In both we find the same elements: fire (spirit) and water (matter). Just as the universe was born of fire and water, human beings must also be born of fire and water in order to enter into this higher state of consciousness called the Kingdom of God, because transposed onto the spiritual plane, fire represents wisdom and water represents love. " Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44731426 Interesting. But all elements are essential and important. So where do the others fit in? Jamster |
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| son of God New Jerusalem Russ User ID: 946898  Canada08/07/2013 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Human beings must also be born of fire and water in order to enter into this higher state of consciousness called the Kingdom of God I have the calendar for our new era [link to newjerusalemcalendar.com] with the NFL schedule on it [link to newjerusalemcalendar.com] plus the public school system for it [link to newjerusalemcalendar.com] and a whole bunch more for uniting all nations for the Kingdom of God and Jesus Christ on Earth. Tue Jul 5/22/13 |
