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yes, I was connected last year as well. It was truly amazing!
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yes, I was connected last year as well. It was truly amazing!
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What information did you receive? And did you run into anything like what I have described?
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I should also add that the day and night experiences seem very different. The daytime "entities" seem to be more conjoined and influence one another more easily. It's as if people are more affected by the "hive mind." At night, there is a greater sense of individuality...like the things I was interacting with were more separate personalities.

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I should also add that the day and night experiences seem very different. The daytime "entities" seem to be more conjoined and influence one another more easily. It's as if people are more affected by the "hive mind." At night, there is a greater sense of individuality...like the things I was interacting with we're more separate personalities.
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Kai.. what do you think about this?

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I should also add that the day and night experiences seem very different. The daytime "entities" seem to be more conjoined and influence one another more easily. It's as if people are more affected by the "hive mind." At night, there is a greater sense of individuality...like the things I was interacting with we're more separate personalities.
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Kai.. what do you think about this?

Thread: Riddle... Sorta
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Possible references to the "greys" or the "Men in Black." Both have been subject to theorizing regarding possible extra dimensional origins. The grey aliens are often spoken of by experiencers as having a mission to preserve life.
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I should also add that the day and night experiences seem very different. The daytime "entities" seem to be more conjoined and influence one another more easily. It's as if people are more affected by the "hive mind." At night, there is a greater sense of individuality...like the things I was interacting with we're more separate personalities.
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Kai.. what do you think about this?

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Possible references to the "greys" or the "Men in Black." Both have been subject to theorizing regarding possible extra dimensional origins. The grey aliens are often spoken of by experiencers as having a mission to preserve life.
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ok.. thanks.
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I should also add that the day and night experiences seem very different. The daytime "entities" seem to be more conjoined and influence one another more easily. It's as if people are more affected by the "hive mind." At night, there is a greater sense of individuality...like the things I was interacting with we're more separate personalities.
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Kai.. what do you think about this?

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It seems there was more truth in "Dark City" than we had hitherto expected.
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I should also add that the day and night experiences seem very different. The daytime "entities" seem to be more conjoined and influence one another more easily. It's as if people are more affected by the "hive mind." At night, there is a greater sense of individuality...like the things I was interacting with we're more separate personalities.
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Kai.. what do you think about this?

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I should also add that the day and night experiences seem very different. The daytime "entities" seem to be more conjoined and influence one another more easily. It's as if people are more affected by the "hive mind." At night, there is a greater sense of individuality...like the things I was interacting with were more separate personalities.
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Brains are not as active at night. There is less "pollution" from other's thoughts to get in your way. Lots of people have this experience I think.
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I should also add that the day and night experiences seem very different. The daytime "entities" seem to be more conjoined and influence one another more easily. It's as if people are more affected by the "hive mind." At night, there is a greater sense of individuality...like the things I was interacting with were more separate personalities.
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Brains are not as active at night. There is less "pollution" from other's thoughts to get in your way. Lots of people have this experience I think.
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This is extremely interesting and something I hadn't considered. Perhaps the more people who are awake and are active, the more "interference" there is...both literally (physically) and in a quantum sense. Thank you for this comment. It is provoking a lot of contemplation on my part.
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I should also add that the day and night experiences seem very different. The daytime "entities" seem to be more conjoined and influence one another more easily. It's as if people are more affected by the "hive mind." At night, there is a greater sense of individuality...like the things I was interacting with we're more separate personalities.
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Kai.. what do you think about this?

Thread: Riddle... Sorta
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Possible references to the "greys" or the "Men in Black." Both have been subject to theorizing regarding possible extra dimensional origins. The grey aliens are often spoken of by experiencers as having a mission to preserve life.
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The greys are also often spoke of as being evil or demonic or even androids under some other entity's control (and thus neither good nor evil). But damned if I know. I've never met one (so far as I know).
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I should also add that the day and night experiences seem very different. The daytime "entities" seem to be more conjoined and influence one another more easily. It's as if people are more affected by the "hive mind." At night, there is a greater sense of individuality...like the things I was interacting with we're more separate personalities.
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Kai.. what do you think about this?

Thread: Riddle... Sorta
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Possible references to the "greys" or the "Men in Black." Both have been subject to theorizing regarding possible extra dimensional origins. The grey aliens are often spoken of by experiencers as having a mission to preserve life.
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The greys are also often spoke of as being evil or demonic or even androids under some other entity's control (and thus neither good nor evil). But damned if I know. I've never met one (so far as I know).
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When you delve into the real literature (research done by UFO investigators, abduction researchers, psychologists, and hypnosis regression activists) the VAST majority of responses from experiencers/abductees suggests that the "greys" are actually quite benevolent (if a little unaware of the concepts of "fear" and "pain"). The only information I have ever seen which links the "greys" to a malevolent source is from unfounded conspiracy theorists and people who claim to have worked for the government and there is absolutely no evidence to back it up.
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I have had some experiences with the orbs. I notice them in certain looser mind states, maybe it is the VALIS place you were talking about. Occasionally i will see them fly in and out of low clouds and my wife will even see them and that stuff isn't really her thing. I am cautious with them but once during a passing of the orbs in the clouds I wondered if they were real or light feedback from some kind of dead eye cells or damage in an optical nerve or whatever. Right when I wondered that to them, they arranged themselves in a perfectly spaced flattened arc and then the orbs turned into very small cloud puffs. Some dissolved right away and others grew and developed just like any other small cloud fragment.

The inter dimensional stuff sounds familiar too. I see people and events lock together and personalities replicate. And if I can get in the groove I might tap into knowledge, but that is always inconsistent. I have had some solid connections to the weather though, which makes me sound insane but it happens more organically than a statement like that would sound.

I wanted to share this link. I was all about interdensional beings and i was browsing through an alchemenical book and really just feeling the energy radiate from it. And then I picked up a random copy of the new testament and it was overflowing. It sounds strange to say but ithe feeling was like the sensation of ringing ears or seeing static. It was a static fuzz sensation. And so I got into it and somehow it made sense that Jesus is a human form of an interdensional being. Like when he says that people are of this world and he is of another world that is not quite so physical but stil alive. All the stuff about him returning I think is like all of us becoming more like him. Which in all honesty i hope is behind what you are describing. Even the way you were arrested and treated seems similar. I try talking to people when i am like that and they can't handle it for some reason. You know he even says that if you follow him then people will hate you.

I know this belief is marred by unfashionable politics and just straight up cultural baggage, but I need to speak what is true to me, especially if I am giving you feedback for your consideration. Here is the link. It is definitely a good read. I suggest pairing it with the extra dimensional episode of the cosmos.

[link to www.godandscience.org]

As for my own strange story, I now find myself here at the source of the Nile. Just a random middle American. I don't have much or have a plan really, but one thing lead to another as you know and the next thing i know my plane is landing beneath a lunar eclipse. I have plenty of food and I am in a clean house. If nothing else just speak the truth, it will always set you free.
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That is remarkably similar.
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Except it was not so much religious in nature as EVERYTHING is nature. It It is like witnessing firsthand the correlations inherent in all things that were existent are existent or will be. Like being in the total perspective vortex and surviving.
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Reality is a construct that is continuously being shaped by what we experience and how we choose to alter it. I mention "extradimensional" forces and I feel I can clarify what this refers to. The only thing we consistently see is the creation of new things. This does not only refer to literal or physical things which manifest in reality (although it can) and it is possible to define it on a very basic level: every new thought or idea a person has is quite simply a new thing. It can be argued that new ideas are not spawned often or ever and this may be true (we may be recycling things which have already been created) but each thought IS new in the sense that it is (for the first time) being created by the specific person in said specific situation at a precise moment in time...or is being realized in a largely different way by said person for different reasons...regardless, it is a VERSION of a new thing...which makes it a new thing altogether. These moments are happening all of the time and thus creation is an ever expanding and evolving process. But when one begins to take note of how every specific occurrence at every moment had by every specific person who is experiencing or altering it actually sets of a chain reaction of events which begin to affect reality, one can begin to trace backward and forward these chains. We begin to see the minute forces which are continuously defining what given people will say or do at given moments in space and time. It begins to appear to us that most people are slaves to literal "chains" of events. And when these things become readily apparent we begin to "free" ourselves of these "chains." Our very awareness allows us to begin to affect these chains in ways that we never imagined. It is like being able to manipulate the literal "strings" of the universe and alter chains of events AND BE AWARE OF it and how it is affecting reality. It actually has nothing to do with manipulating people but rather the forces that surround the decisions we make every day and why we make them. When you become aware of this there is no going back and it becomes obvious who is still "chained" around you and who isn't. Those who are begin to appear quite literally as "slaves" of forces (not necessarily sentient forces) that are beyond their awareness or control. They are quite literally mind controlled by what is going on around them. These "things"..."forces" are like manifestations of multdimensional "personalities" which can affect people. It is beautiful and also disturbing.
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Reality is a construct that is continuously being shaped by what we experience and how we choose to alter it. I mention "extradimensional" forces and I feel I can clarify what this refers to. The only thing we consistently see is the creation of new things. This does not only refer to literal or physical things which manifest in reality (although it can) and it is possible to define it on a very basic level: every new thought or idea a person has is quite simply a new thing. It can be argued that new ideas are not spawned often or ever and this may be true (we may be recycling things which have already been created) but each thought IS new in the sense that it is (for the first time) being created by the specific person in said specific situation at a precise moment in time...or is being realized in a largely different way by said person for different reasons...regardless, it is a VERSION of a new thing...which makes it a new thing altogether. These moments are happening all of the time and thus creation is an ever expanding and evolving process. But when one begins to take note of how every specific occurrence at every moment had by every specific person who is experiencing or altering it actually sets of a chain reaction of events which begin to affect reality, one can begin to trace backward and forward these chains. We begin to see the minute forces which are continuously defining what given people will say or do at given moments in space and time. It begins to appear to us that most people are slaves to literal "chains" of events. And when these things become readily apparent we begin to "free" ourselves of these "chains." Our very awareness allows us to begin to affect these chains in ways that we never imagined. It is like being able to manipulate the literal "strings" of the universe and alter chains of events AND BE AWARE OF it and how it is affecting reality. It actually has nothing to do with manipulating people but rather the forces that surround the decisions we make every day and why we make them. When you become aware of this there is no going back and it becomes obvious who is still "chained" around you and who isn't. Those who are begin to appear quite literally as "slaves" of forces (not necessarily sentient forces) that are beyond their awareness or control. They are quite literally mind controlled by what is going on around them. These "things"..."forces" are like manifestations of multdimensional "personalities" which can affect people. It is beautiful and also disturbing.
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Kai Although I am still not quite sure of your motives I LOVE how you put your "thoughts" together via words. :) <3


THANK YOU
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It isn't so much about religion as it is about introducing a different language or vantage point to describe the same incomprehensible object. Hope it was helpful. This is a great discussion you started thanks for sharing the experiences.
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Do you get the constant ringing in your ears? (Easily explainable, very common) I get it all the time and it seems like sometimes the frequencies are switching. I have a lot of synchronicities with what you have said in your story. (Not so easily explainable)
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Yes VALIS, i've been through the same, i have accessed source, i see the information, i could write about it, but no one listens, and it's too late now anyhow.

I've surfed these boards anonymously since 2003, i briefly used the name V.A.L.I.S

Here i was on a proxy in 2008 to prove it
Thread: Schizophrenia & Shamanism

I told you VALIS is the only book i've read, my number is 9

What you're connecting to is what Chistians call god, i don't call it god, i call it source, as the bible has turned people away from the TRUE GOD, which is themselves.

No one is interested in being told how the universe works or what truth is, and who can blame them?.....they are to find out for themselves, it's just the way it is, and quite beautiful in how it works.

The last planet alignment dubbed 'star of david' blew me wide open, my stargate is activated (third eye pineal), It's been happening for years, but i only just made the connection that it is planetary alignments smashing through the control grid, for years i didn't know what was happening, beginning of 1994 (january 18th or thereabouts) then again in 1998, i experienced Christ consciousness, and other times between these i've experienced mild awakenings.
Then this time was the most powerful of all and it peaked on 07/21/2013 where i was rendered incapable, tripping and rolling round on the floor for three days losing consciousness, when fully connected it was just me floating in front of a dim Sun, from the Sun came PURE bliss, in the bliss was information, this is how it communicates to us and through us.......(i believe they bore the antichrist at this time)


I saw your posts and instantly knew you've experienced the same thing, and yes we are dealing with an entity that has cut itself off from the eternal fractal into a closed system stuck in the lower realms/ dimensions, it is alien in orgin and it feeds on planets like parasites on a flower, and it is in control of our governments and institutions.

Here's a song you might relate to (yet another NIN song like i quoted in the thread linked above)
I only just found out about this song, and it blew me away, cos as of yet i haven't found anyone else with a similar experience, except Trent Reznor.

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Reality is a construct that is continuously being shaped by what we experience and how we choose to alter it. I mention "extradimensional" forces and I feel I can clarify what this refers to. The only thing we consistently see is the creation of new things. This does not only refer to literal or physical things which manifest in reality (although it can) and it is possible to define it on a very basic level: every new thought or idea a person has is quite simply a new thing. It can be argued that new ideas are not spawned often or ever and this may be true (we may be recycling things which have already been created) but each thought IS new in the sense that it is (for the first time) being created by the specific person in said specific situation at a precise moment in time...or is being realized in a largely different way by said person for different reasons...regardless, it is a VERSION of a new thing...which makes it a new thing altogether. These moments are happening all of the time and thus creation is an ever expanding and evolving process. But when one begins to take note of how every specific occurrence at every moment had by every specific person who is experiencing or altering it actually sets of a chain reaction of events which begin to affect reality, one can begin to trace backward and forward these chains. We begin to see the minute forces which are continuously defining what given people will say or do at given moments in space and time. It begins to appear to us that most people are slaves to literal "chains" of events. And when these things become readily apparent we begin to "free" ourselves of these "chains." Our very awareness allows us to begin to affect these chains in ways that we never imagined. It is like being able to manipulate the literal "strings" of the universe and alter chains of events AND BE AWARE OF it and how it is affecting reality. It actually has nothing to do with manipulating people but rather the forces that surround the decisions we make every day and why we make them. When you become aware of this there is no going back and it becomes obvious who is still "chained" around you and who isn't. Those who are begin to appear quite literally as "slaves" of forces (not necessarily sentient forces) that are beyond their awareness or control. They are quite literally mind controlled by what is going on around them. These "things"..."forces" are like manifestations of multdimensional "personalities" which can affect people. It is beautiful and also disturbing.
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Kai Although I am still not quite sure of your motives I LOVE how you put your "thoughts" together via words. :) <3


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Thank you. Glad it translates. As for my motives...I merely wish to experience things and attempt to communicate those experiences. If I can help or enlighten anyone along the way...all the better.
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It isn't so much about religion as it is about introducing a different language or vantage point to describe the same incomprehensible object. Hope it was helpful. This is a great discussion you started thanks for sharing the experiences.
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Truth. Thank you for expanding it.
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Reality is a construct that is continuously being shaped by what we experience and how we choose to alter it. I mention "extradimensional" forces and I feel I can clarify what this refers to. The only thing we consistently see is the creation of new things. This does not only refer to literal or physical things which manifest in reality (although it can) and it is possible to define it on a very basic level: every new thought or idea a person has is quite simply a new thing. It can be argued that new ideas are not spawned often or ever and this may be true (we may be recycling things which have already been created) but each thought IS new in the sense that it is (for the first time) being created by the specific person in said specific situation at a precise moment in time...or is being realized in a largely different way by said person for different reasons...regardless, it is a VERSION of a new thing...which makes it a new thing altogether. These moments are happening all of the time and thus creation is an ever expanding and evolving process. But when one begins to take note of how every specific occurrence at every moment had by every specific person who is experiencing or altering it actually sets of a chain reaction of events which begin to affect reality, one can begin to trace backward and forward these chains. We begin to see the minute forces which are continuously defining what given people will say or do at given moments in space and time. It begins to appear to us that most people are slaves to literal "chains" of events. And when these things become readily apparent we begin to "free" ourselves of these "chains." Our very awareness allows us to begin to affect these chains in ways that we never imagined. It is like being able to manipulate the literal "strings" of the universe and alter chains of events AND BE AWARE OF it and how it is affecting reality. It actually has nothing to do with manipulating people but rather the forces that surround the decisions we make every day and why we make them. When you become aware of this there is no going back and it becomes obvious who is still "chained" around you and who isn't. Those who are begin to appear quite literally as "slaves" of forces (not necessarily sentient forces) that are beyond their awareness or control. They are quite literally mind controlled by what is going on around them. These "things"..."forces" are like manifestations of multdimensional "personalities" which can affect people. It is beautiful and also disturbing.
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that is settling into living nicely , good visuals
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it kinda makes a guy feel special, when THEY choose to show you a glimpse behind the curtain every now and again.
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it kinda makes a guy feel special, when THEY choose to show you a glimpse behind the curtain every now and again.
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Indeed. But perhaps some of us steal our glimpse of our own volition. I got the distinct impression I saw something that certain other interested parties did not wish for me to see.
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