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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12691522 Australia 09/03/2013 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12691522 Which Aussie? There are four of us on this thread. But yes he would have to be. If he was evil he would be like satan. If you compare whats said about both of them I cant really see a difference. They teach that there will be an antichrist who will be possessed by satan and that he will threaten everyone with death and torture if they dont take his mark. Dont worship him and you starve to death and/or get tortured and beheadded. Thats rather sinister, but thats what Satan is all about isnt he? Force and threats and always wanting to be worshipped. Now they also teach that God will place his mark on his peoples forheads as well. And those who dont take it will be killed and tortured forever without end. Thats dark and sinister as well and is even worse than what satan planned to do. So whos the bigger asshole? God or satan?? They both sell their product the same way. Either they are the same being and both doctrines came from the one place of darkness or God is actually Good and satan has just shat all over his name which is "Good" by propogating a doctrine that makes God out to be a billion times worse that he himself is. So someone somewhere has lied. OP is right. God cannot be an asshole like satan is. Its impossible. If I was a christian, then I would not be buying this hell bullshit. But I do know enough of the bible to know the hell garbage just cant be right because I was taught in sunday school that god is love and therefore good. Satan is hate and revenge and force and therefore evil. Its black and white. Who defines evil? Jesus did by defining "Good". The opposite is evil. Ill do a bible tard thing and quote a verse. You might be more comfortable if I speak in your language. (I never forgot what I learnt in sunday shool) Mat 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. This^^^^is "Good" Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. This is what christians preach^^^ Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; This^^^is "Good" and shows patience and love. Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. He Loves both the good and the evil and makes no discrimination in how he treats them. Its is the essence of "Good" Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? This is what christians do. The hang around eachother patting eachother on the back at how "Holy" they think they are but curse and hate and condemn everyone else all the time. That is "Evil" Mat 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? As I said above its "Evil" Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. So perfect must not mean quoting scriptures or being all self rightous as they do but it means not being an asshole to everyone else. Because Gods not an asshole. You may ask why I know all this and am not a christian? Its because there are no churches anywhere where you can be yourself and not get spat onand condemned for being human. Not into that shit. Its all garbage and hypocrisy. As for God?? If he is real there is no way he can be the asshole they make him out to be. Im not an athiest nor an evolutionist. I just live and treat my fellow man as best I can. Or will some tight assed christian with a bee in their bonnet tellme that I will burn in hell for not saying a sinners prayer? Well what do you think? LOGIC WINS AGAIN! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11835313 Australia 09/04/2013 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great thread. All beliefs need to be constantly tested, debated and scrutinised. Any belief structure that does not wish for this, is not worthy of being followed. It's a healthy thing to question and a reasonable thing to do. Please continue... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26310058 United States 09/04/2013 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL don't listen to OP. He is either a shill or just repeating what someone who pays the shill would say. Again, LOL. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26310058 Paid to shill? Isnt that what they do with pastors? Pay them to threaten doom and death on everyone? LOL But at least pastors are honest don't done who they are "shilling" for, namely Jesus. Watch out for all other shills who don't make it all that clear who they are shilling for. Gnomes what I'm sayinz? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12691522 Australia 09/04/2013 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL don't listen to OP. He is either a shill or just repeating what someone who pays the shill would say. Again, LOL. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26310058 Paid to shill? Isnt that what they do with pastors? Pay them to threaten doom and death on everyone? LOL But at least pastors are honest don't done who they are "shilling" for, namely Jesus. Watch out for all other shills who don't make it all that clear who they are shilling for. Gnomes what I'm sayinz? They shill for cash. Just turn on the TV or go to any church. Its always about the cash. Scare the fuck out of you with ghastly stories of doom and torture and once they have you hooked scare you into giving over your cash or you will be cursed by god for "Robbing" him. Next. LOL |
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Regenerated User ID: 39250554 United States 09/04/2013 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Still chewing on the incinsitencies are you? Hmm How to be "Good" and threaten everyone with torture at the same time. Its a tough call. I DO believe that there is indeed a hell. A place of punishment for those whose sins have not been eternally accounted for. God's word declares it, so I believe it. I also know for a fact that I deserve to go there. I have sinned against God willingly and deliberately. The only hope I have to escape my just and due punishment is that God Himself became a man and bore the eternal penalty for my sins on the Cross of Calvary. I don't believe in Jesus so that I won't go to hell, I believe in Jesus because He ALREADY saved me from it. I don't obey Him to avoid hell, I obey Him because He loved me and had mercy on me. Last Edited by regenerated on 09/04/2013 12:30 AM |
VeryNigh Just A Watcher on the Wall User ID: 45947529 United States 09/04/2013 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is your mind so lame of thought with all that is going on that you have nothing better to do than insite people to rail against your insults. Quoting: Bum 24408047 ^^^ OP: Christians worship Hell! OP: I worship Christians! I just can't get'em off my mind! "Sir, are you classified as human?" "Negative. I am a meat-popsicle." ~Corbin Dallas |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12691522 Australia 09/04/2013 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is your mind so lame of thought with all that is going on that you have nothing better to do than insite people to rail against your insults. Quoting: Bum 24408047 ^^^ OP: Christians worship Hell! OP: I worship Christians! I just can't get'em off my mind! Sure didnt look like it. But christians worship chirstians when they are not busy hatinmg eachother in their endless copy paste wars. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26310058 United States 09/04/2013 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL don't listen to OP. He is either a shill or just repeating what someone who pays the shill would say. Again, LOL. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26310058 Paid to shill? Isnt that what they do with pastors? Pay them to threaten doom and death on everyone? LOL But at least pastors are honest don't done who they are "shilling" for, namely Jesus. Watch out for all other shills who don't make it all that clear who they are shilling for. Gnomes what I'm sayinz? They shill for cash. Just turn on the TV or go to any church. Its always about the cash. Scare the fuck out of you with ghastly stories of doom and torture and once they have you hooked scare you into giving over your cash or you will be cursed by god for "Robbing" him. Next. LOL Well yeah, like the pastors on Hollywood movies do this! LOL. |
Regenerated User ID: 39250554 United States 09/04/2013 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is your mind so lame of thought with all that is going on that you have nothing better to do than insite people to rail against your insults. Quoting: Bum 24408047 ^^^ OP: Christians worship Hell! OP: I worship Christians! I just can't get'em off my mind! Sure didnt look like it. But christians worship chirstians when they are not busy hatinmg eachother in their endless copy paste wars. You spend a lot of time condemning "christians", aren't you guilty of the same type of blanket condemnation that you are accusing them of? Why not just deal with your own sins with God? Surely you can't try to pretend you are perfect? Why spend so much time dwelling on the sins of others when you have your own to face? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26310058 United States 09/04/2013 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Proof that christians don't want people going to hell is, they try and preach, and convert. But when they do that, they get people like you saying they don't need to be preachin and should just shut up... Quoting: *Evan You pick, are they heartless people who want you to go to hell? Or are they too preachy and need to be quiet? Warning you about hell doesn't mean they want you to go there. Don't project your guilty conscience on others. :) That was nicely said. Watch out for Jew shills like this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12691522 Australia 09/04/2013 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12691522 Paid to shill? Isnt that what they do with pastors? Pay them to threaten doom and death on everyone? LOL But at least pastors are honest don't done who they are "shilling" for, namely Jesus. Watch out for all other shills who don't make it all that clear who they are shilling for. Gnomes what I'm sayinz? They shill for cash. Just turn on the TV or go to any church. Its always about the cash. Scare the fuck out of you with ghastly stories of doom and torture and once they have you hooked scare you into giving over your cash or you will be cursed by god for "Robbing" him. Next. LOL Well yeah, like the pastors on Hollywood movies do this! LOL. No the ones ive seen in churches and all over TV do this. Benny Hinn. Swaggart. Dollar Copeland Myer Ahh the list is endless. But you know its true as can anyone whos ever been to church. Its all fear and condemnation and money and manipulation by terror and guilt. Fear makes money. Even the PTB know this and play on everyones fears to make more money and more taxes. Scare them with global warming stories and other crap. PTB and the church work hand in hand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45676617 Australia 09/04/2013 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have never encountered such a dark heareted hate filled bunch of people. They say they have love, but all you hear from them is hate and evil threats of sadistic torture from this god that they say loves you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519 They are rude and arrogant and when they talk of death and tribulation and hell and torture a darkness enters their eyes. You can see it come over them like a shadow. They almost come in their pants on the spot as they, with dark sinister joy, go into great detail about what they want to see happen to just about everbody on the planet, and then they get even darker as they describe the torments that they say god will do to all those in hell. They are like tortures who get a dark sadsitic pleasure in the screams of others. Evil to the core and black of heart. The only god they know is darkness and evil. They always quite that scripture about "telling who a person really serves by their fruits" They should take a good long look at the evil darness and hate that gushes from them. Thats a good indicator to all just WHICH "God" they are in league with. Proof that christians don't want people going to hell is, they try and preach, and convert. But when they do that, they get people like you saying they don't need to be preachin and should just shut up... You pick, are they heartless people who want you to go to hell? Or are they too preachy and need to be quiet? Warning you about hell doesn't mean they want you to go there. Don't project your guilty conscience on others. :) Preaching and trying to convert on a conspiracy website, why is that exactly? I think most people on here and too intelligent to fall into that cult, it's never going to happen. Plus, many many many christians believe in the NWO. Believe it is a spiritual battle. So a conspiracy site is a very relevant place for the religious. Christianity IS the conspiracy, Evan. The biggest lie ever told. |
SingleCellOrganism User ID: 33400049 United States 09/04/2013 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: *Evan Proof that christians don't want people going to hell is, they try and preach, and convert. But when they do that, they get people like you saying they don't need to be preachin and should just shut up... You pick, are they heartless people who want you to go to hell? Or are they too preachy and need to be quiet? Warning you about hell doesn't mean they want you to go there. Don't project your guilty conscience on others. :) Preaching and trying to convert on a conspiracy website, why is that exactly? I think most people on here and too intelligent to fall into that cult, it's never going to happen. Plus, many many many christians believe in the NWO. Believe it is a spiritual battle. So a conspiracy site is a very relevant place for the religious. Christianity IS the conspiracy, Evan. The biggest lie ever told. That is irrational. Otherwise you suggest that 'loving your neighbor' and meditating on righteous behavior is some 'master plan for world domination'. Pretty shoddy plan if so, IMO. The real 'conspiracy' is to keep you ignorant of the transcendent truths of Christianity. Best way to do that is to corrupt the message. Tada - the church system. Last Edited by Quadriped on 09/04/2013 12:44 AM |
Regenerated User ID: 39250554 United States 09/04/2013 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26310058 But at least pastors are honest don't done who they are "shilling" for, namely Jesus. Watch out for all other shills who don't make it all that clear who they are shilling for. Gnomes what I'm sayinz? They shill for cash. Just turn on the TV or go to any church. Its always about the cash. Scare the fuck out of you with ghastly stories of doom and torture and once they have you hooked scare you into giving over your cash or you will be cursed by god for "Robbing" him. Next. LOL Well yeah, like the pastors on Hollywood movies do this! LOL. No the ones ive seen in churches and all over TV do this. Benny Hinn. Swaggart. Dollar Copeland Myer Ahh the list is endless. But you know its true as can anyone whos ever been to church. Its all fear and condemnation and money and manipulation by terror and guilt. Fear makes money. Even the PTB know this and play on everyones fears to make more money and more taxes. Scare them with global warming stories and other crap. PTB and the church work hand in hand. The fact there are Wicked men and women that pervert the Word of God for filthy cash does not negate the truth of the Word they are perverting. It just brings condemnation from God on their own heads. Last Edited by regenerated on 09/04/2013 12:45 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12691522 Australia 09/04/2013 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus did by defining "Good". The opposite is evil. Ill do a bible tard thing and quote a verse. You might be more comfortable if I speak in your language. (I never forgot what I learnt in sunday shool) Mat 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. This^^^^is "Good" Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. This is what christians preach^^^ Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; This^^^is "Good" and shows patience and love. Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. He Loves both the good and the evil and makes no discrimination in how he treats them. Its is the essence of "Good" Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? This is what christians do. The hang around eachother patting eachother on the back at how "Holy" they think they are but curse and hate and condemn everyone else all the time. That is "Evil" Mat 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? As I said above its "Evil" Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. So perfect must not mean quoting scriptures or being all self rightous as they do but it means not being an asshole to everyone else. Because Gods not an asshole. You may ask why I know all this and am not a christian? Its because there are no churches anywhere where you can be yourself and not get spat onand condemned for being human. Not into that shit. Its all garbage and hypocrisy. As for God?? If he is real there is no way he can be the asshole they make him out to be. Im not an athiest nor an evolutionist. I just live and treat my fellow man as best I can. Or will some tight assed christian with a bee in their bonnet tellme that I will burn in hell for not saying a sinners prayer? Well what do you think? LOGIC WINS AGAIN! |
SingleCellOrganism User ID: 33400049 United States 09/04/2013 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12691522 They shill for cash. Just turn on the TV or go to any church. Its always about the cash. Scare the fuck out of you with ghastly stories of doom and torture and once they have you hooked scare you into giving over your cash or you will be cursed by god for "Robbing" him. Next. LOL Well yeah, like the pastors on Hollywood movies do this! LOL. No the ones ive seen in churches and all over TV do this. Benny Hinn. Swaggart. Dollar Copeland Myer Ahh the list is endless. But you know its true as can anyone whos ever been to church. Its all fear and condemnation and money and manipulation by terror and guilt. Fear makes money. Even the PTB know this and play on everyones fears to make more money and more taxes. Scare them with global warming stories and other crap. PTB and the church work hand in hand. The fact there are Wicked men and women that pervert the Word of God for filthy cash does not negate the truth of the Word they are perverting. Well said. Another case of "don't listen to the message, because the messenger is *gasp* a human being". Rule of thumb: 1. pay attention to ideas 2. ignore the messenger Unfortunately, the messenger is also working for the enemy. Fortunately, the message is at everyone's fingertips. Last Edited by Quadriped on 09/04/2013 12:48 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12691522 Australia 09/04/2013 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No the ones ive seen in churches and all over TV do this. Benny Hinn. Swaggart. Dollar Copeland Myer Ahh the list is endless. But you know its true as can anyone whos ever been to church. Its all fear and condemnation and money and manipulation by terror and guilt. Fear makes money. Even the PTB know this and play on everyones fears to make more money and more taxes. Scare them with global warming stories and other crap. PTB and the church work hand in hand. The fact there are Wicked men and women that pervert the Word of God for filthy cash does not negate the truth of the Word they are perverting. Well said. Another case of "don't listen to the message, because the messenger is *gasp* a human being" But sinners are not allowed to be human. They have to be hated and cursed and threatened. Right? |
SingleCellOrganism User ID: 33400049 United States 09/04/2013 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12691522 No the ones ive seen in churches and all over TV do this. Benny Hinn. Swaggart. Dollar Copeland Myer Ahh the list is endless. But you know its true as can anyone whos ever been to church. Its all fear and condemnation and money and manipulation by terror and guilt. Fear makes money. Even the PTB know this and play on everyones fears to make more money and more taxes. Scare them with global warming stories and other crap. PTB and the church work hand in hand. The fact there are Wicked men and women that pervert the Word of God for filthy cash does not negate the truth of the Word they are perverting. Well said. Another case of "don't listen to the message, because the messenger is *gasp* a human being" But sinners are not allowed to be human. They have to be hated and cursed and threatened. Right? Wrong. In fact, that is the complete opposite of Christian theology .... Perhaps the messenger working for the enemy wants YOU to think that however. Back to rules of thumb! Romans 7:24 "oh what a miserable man I am! who will rescue me from this body of death?" This from the foremost advocate for Christianity, formerly a murderer of Christians, killed delivering this truth to the world... Another statement of his: "For what I am working out I do not know. For what I wish, this I do not practice; but what I hate is what I do" Does that sound like someone incapable of acknowledging our weaknesses? Sadly, Christians today are so deluded that they don't bother to learn what they profess to believe in. Rather relying on men who you site as their 'guides'.. The bible has a few things to say about these 'guides'. "so ignore them. They are blind guides leading the blind, and if one blind person guides another, they will both fall into a ditch." Last Edited by Quadriped on 09/04/2013 12:56 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44317655 Canada 09/04/2013 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Clearly we Christians need to learn about love - perhaps from someone who has proven to be as kind, gentle, loving and intelligent as you?? You are a hypocrite to come on a public forum and talk about how much a group of people hates...all the while hating that group of people. That right there, makes you lose any credibility, but, on top of that, your Biblical scholarship is pathetic at best, and your manners are worse. The early church taught that there is a hell and that there is eternal punishment for the finally impenitent. There was no divergent position on the same until Clement and Origen of the Alexandrian school wrote of it. Of course you knew that. You also knew that their position on hell and eternal punishment carried no substantial weight in the church and essentially died out, because the positions held by Universalists is slim at best when reviewing the Bible. It has only seen a rebirth of sorts in the last while because of influential teachings from theologians such as Emil Brunner, Schleiermacher and Pinnock even more recently. Those were Godly men, and I disagree with their positions on hell and eternal punishment, but at least they present a coherent argument to ponder - you, not so much... I wish you peace and a good night - I have never encountered such a dark heareted hate filled bunch of people. They say they have love, but all you hear from them is hate and evil threats of sadistic torture from this god that they say loves you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519 They are rude and arrogant and when they talk of death and tribulation and hell and torture a darkness enters their eyes. You can see it come over them like a shadow. They almost come in their pants on the spot as they, with dark sinister joy, go into great detail about what they want to see happen to just about everbody on the planet, and then they get even darker as they describe the torments that they say god will do to all those in hell. They are like tortures who get a dark sadsitic pleasure in the screams of others. Evil to the core and black of heart. The only god they know is darkness and evil. They always quite that scripture about "telling who a person really serves by their fruits" They should take a good long look at the evil darness and hate that gushes from them. Thats a good indicator to all just WHICH "God" they are in league with. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12691522 Australia 09/04/2013 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Regenerated The fact there are Wicked men and women that pervert the Word of God for filthy cash does not negate the truth of the Word they are perverting. Well said. Another case of "don't listen to the message, because the messenger is *gasp* a human being" But sinners are not allowed to be human. They have to be hated and cursed and threatened. Right? Wrong. In fact, that is the complete opposite of Christian theology .... Perhaps the messenger working for the enemy wants YOU to think that however. Back to rules of thumb! Romans 7:24 "oh what a miserable man I am! who will rescue me from this body of death?" This from the foremost advocate for Christianity, formerly a murderer of Christians, killed delivering this truth to the world... Another statement of his: "For what I am working out I do not know. For what I wish, this I do not practice; but what I hate is what I do" Does that sound like someone incapable of acknowledging our weaknesses? Sadly, Christians today are so deluded that they don't bother to learn what they profess to believe in. Rather relying on men who you site as their 'guides'.. The bible has a few things to say about these 'guides'. "so ignore them. They are blind guides leading the blind, and if one blind person guides another, they will both fall into a ditch." They always end up showing their true colours when pressed with the truth about how they treat others. This thread here is pricelss. Thread: Christian LOVE at its finets..brought to you by the HELL screamers. And they do this all the time. Not just to "sinners" but to eachother over doctrinal issues and denominational garbage. Always at eachothers throats. And when they get exposed for it like OP has done that react in the very manner OP said they do. Talk about hypocrisy and mental retardadtion in the extreme. Its a joke really. |
SingleCellOrganism User ID: 33400049 United States 09/04/2013 01:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Clearly we Christians need to learn about love - perhaps from someone who has proven to be as kind, gentle, loving and intelligent as you?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44317655 You are a hypocrite to come on a public forum and talk about how much a group of people hates...all the while hating that group of people. That right there, makes you lose any credibility, but, on top of that, your Biblical scholarship is pathetic at best, and your manners are worse. The early church taught that there is a hell and that there is eternal punishment for the finally impenitent. There was no divergent position on the same until Clement and Origen of the Alexandrian school wrote of it. Of course you knew that. You also knew that their position on hell and eternal punishment carried no substantial weight in the church and essentially died out, because the positions held by Universalists is slim at best when reviewing the Bible. It has only seen a rebirth of sorts in the last while because of influential teachings from theologians such as Emil Brunner, Schleiermacher and Pinnock even more recently. Those were Godly men, and I disagree with their positions on hell and eternal punishment, but at least they present a coherent argument to ponder - you, not so much... I wish you peace and a good night - I have never encountered such a dark heareted hate filled bunch of people. They say they have love, but all you hear from them is hate and evil threats of sadistic torture from this god that they say loves you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519 They are rude and arrogant and when they talk of death and tribulation and hell and torture a darkness enters their eyes. You can see it come over them like a shadow. They almost come in their pants on the spot as they, with dark sinister joy, go into great detail about what they want to see happen to just about everbody on the planet, and then they get even darker as they describe the torments that they say god will do to all those in hell. They are like tortures who get a dark sadsitic pleasure in the screams of others. Evil to the core and black of heart. The only god they know is darkness and evil. They always quite that scripture about "telling who a person really serves by their fruits" They should take a good long look at the evil darness and hate that gushes from them. Thats a good indicator to all just WHICH "God" they are in league with. Respectfully my brother - what does the 'early church' have to do with truth? This is the same body which KILLED anyone who attempted to translate the bible... Any development post-Apostle is A-pos-tate. They 'went beyond the things written'. (particularly their hate filled 'eternal torment' doctrine, which they stole from their Greco-Roman patrons) Last Edited by Quadriped on 09/04/2013 01:03 AM |
SingleCellOrganism User ID: 33400049 United States 09/04/2013 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SingleCellOrganism Well said. Another case of "don't listen to the message, because the messenger is *gasp* a human being" But sinners are not allowed to be human. They have to be hated and cursed and threatened. Right? Wrong. In fact, that is the complete opposite of Christian theology .... Perhaps the messenger working for the enemy wants YOU to think that however. Back to rules of thumb! Romans 7:24 "oh what a miserable man I am! who will rescue me from this body of death?" This from the foremost advocate for Christianity, formerly a murderer of Christians, killed delivering this truth to the world... Another statement of his: "For what I am working out I do not know. For what I wish, this I do not practice; but what I hate is what I do" Does that sound like someone incapable of acknowledging our weaknesses? Sadly, Christians today are so deluded that they don't bother to learn what they profess to believe in. Rather relying on men who you site as their 'guides'.. The bible has a few things to say about these 'guides'. "so ignore them. They are blind guides leading the blind, and if one blind person guides another, they will both fall into a ditch." They always end up showing their true colours when pressed with the truth about how they treat others. This thread here is pricelss. Thread: Christian LOVE at its finets..brought to you by the HELL screamers. And they do this all the time. Not just to "sinners" but to eachother over doctrinal issues and denominational garbage. Always at eachothers throats. And when they get exposed for it like OP has done that react in the very manner OP said they do. Talk about hypocrisy and mental retardadtion in the extreme. Its a joke really. So what is your point? Humans are human? Humans are hypocrites? Good, you have a basis for understanding why we NEED the creator to set these matters straight. "1+1=2" eh? This line of reasoning is nothing but delusion; and will blind you to the truth. It's akin to learning math by pointing out the failed algorithms of Professor XYZ... I would suggest you study math, rather than math teachers. Last Edited by Quadriped on 09/04/2013 01:07 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12691522 Australia 09/04/2013 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12691522 But sinners are not allowed to be human. They have to be hated and cursed and threatened. Right? Wrong. In fact, that is the complete opposite of Christian theology .... Perhaps the messenger working for the enemy wants YOU to think that however. Back to rules of thumb! Romans 7:24 "oh what a miserable man I am! who will rescue me from this body of death?" This from the foremost advocate for Christianity, formerly a murderer of Christians, killed delivering this truth to the world... Another statement of his: "For what I am working out I do not know. For what I wish, this I do not practice; but what I hate is what I do" Does that sound like someone incapable of acknowledging our weaknesses? Sadly, Christians today are so deluded that they don't bother to learn what they profess to believe in. Rather relying on men who you site as their 'guides'.. The bible has a few things to say about these 'guides'. "so ignore them. They are blind guides leading the blind, and if one blind person guides another, they will both fall into a ditch." They always end up showing their true colours when pressed with the truth about how they treat others. This thread here is pricelss. Thread: Christian LOVE at its finets..brought to you by the HELL screamers. And they do this all the time. Not just to "sinners" but to eachother over doctrinal issues and denominational garbage. Always at eachothers throats. And when they get exposed for it like OP has done that react in the very manner OP said they do. Talk about hypocrisy and mental retardadtion in the extreme. Its a joke really. So what is your point? Humans are human? Humans are hypocrites? Good, you have a basis for understanding why we NEED the creator to set these matters straight. "1+1=2" eh? This line of reasoning is nothing but delusion; and will blind you to the truth. It's akin to learning math by pointing out the failed algorithms of Professor XYZ... So whats the truth then? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12691522 Australia 09/04/2013 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Clearly we Christians need to learn about love - perhaps from someone who has proven to be as kind, gentle, loving and intelligent as you?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44317655 You are a hypocrite to come on a public forum and talk about how much a group of people hates...all the while hating that group of people. That right there, makes you lose any credibility, but, on top of that, your Biblical scholarship is pathetic at best, and your manners are worse. The early church taught that there is a hell and that there is eternal punishment for the finally impenitent. There was no divergent position on the same until Clement and Origen of the Alexandrian school wrote of it. Of course you knew that. You also knew that their position on hell and eternal punishment carried no substantial weight in the church and essentially died out, because the positions held by Universalists is slim at best when reviewing the Bible. It has only seen a rebirth of sorts in the last while because of influential teachings from theologians such as Emil Brunner, Schleiermacher and Pinnock even more recently. Those were Godly men, and I disagree with their positions on hell and eternal punishment, but at least they present a coherent argument to ponder - you, not so much... I wish you peace and a good night - I have never encountered such a dark heareted hate filled bunch of people. They say they have love, but all you hear from them is hate and evil threats of sadistic torture from this god that they say loves you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519 They are rude and arrogant and when they talk of death and tribulation and hell and torture a darkness enters their eyes. You can see it come over them like a shadow. They almost come in their pants on the spot as they, with dark sinister joy, go into great detail about what they want to see happen to just about everbody on the planet, and then they get even darker as they describe the torments that they say god will do to all those in hell. They are like tortures who get a dark sadsitic pleasure in the screams of others. Evil to the core and black of heart. The only god they know is darkness and evil. They always quite that scripture about "telling who a person really serves by their fruits" They should take a good long look at the evil darness and hate that gushes from them. Thats a good indicator to all just WHICH "God" they are in league with. I see you beleive everything on this thread. Thread: GOD is totally omnipotent and ALL powerful..NOTHING thrwarts his plans EVER. |
SingleCellOrganism User ID: 33400049 United States 09/04/2013 01:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SingleCellOrganism Wrong. In fact, that is the complete opposite of Christian theology .... Perhaps the messenger working for the enemy wants YOU to think that however. Back to rules of thumb! Romans 7:24 "oh what a miserable man I am! who will rescue me from this body of death?" This from the foremost advocate for Christianity, formerly a murderer of Christians, killed delivering this truth to the world... Another statement of his: "For what I am working out I do not know. For what I wish, this I do not practice; but what I hate is what I do" Does that sound like someone incapable of acknowledging our weaknesses? Sadly, Christians today are so deluded that they don't bother to learn what they profess to believe in. Rather relying on men who you site as their 'guides'.. The bible has a few things to say about these 'guides'. "so ignore them. They are blind guides leading the blind, and if one blind person guides another, they will both fall into a ditch." They always end up showing their true colours when pressed with the truth about how they treat others. This thread here is pricelss. Thread: Christian LOVE at its finets..brought to you by the HELL screamers. And they do this all the time. Not just to "sinners" but to eachother over doctrinal issues and denominational garbage. Always at eachothers throats. And when they get exposed for it like OP has done that react in the very manner OP said they do. Talk about hypocrisy and mental retardadtion in the extreme. Its a joke really. So what is your point? Humans are human? Humans are hypocrites? Good, you have a basis for understanding why we NEED the creator to set these matters straight. "1+1=2" eh? This line of reasoning is nothing but delusion; and will blind you to the truth. It's akin to learning math by pointing out the failed algorithms of Professor XYZ... So whats the truth then? That is a fairly large question isn't it? I think what your asking for is a summary of Christian doctrine, no? Any particular point of interest? [life, death, justice, love, sin, Satan, God, the universe, time, etc, etc?] I'll promise you this: you won't hear Christian doctrine from mainstream Christians. |