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Broken Brain Trust User ID: 50021105 United States 11/17/2013 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry I didn't have the time to read the entirety of your post — the content was way over my head. But here a classic Woo-dop song to brighten things up in here. In fairness, The Earls seem to have include the word 'dream' in quite a few of their song titles. I guess that's nobility for you. There you go, take your pick! |
Broken Brain Trust User ID: 50021105 United States 11/17/2013 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry I didn't have the time to read the entirety of your post — the content was way over my head. But here a classic Woo-dop song to brighten things up in here. In fairness, The Earls seem to have include the word 'dream' in quite a few of their song titles. I guess that's nobility for you. There you go, take your pick! oops, here's that third one — one of their biggest hits. Sadly, few people remember them anymore. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 50140239 United Arab Emirates 11/21/2013 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Part two if anybody interested :) Original Link: [link to flowofmysoul.wordpress.com] More Discussion: [link to www.dreamviews.com] Shared Dreaming, Fake and Real Shared Dreams - Part 2 Lately my opinion on Shared Dreaming was split in two. I feel like I have to go both ways at once, picking one path only, would be close minded in my opinion. Will see which one will bring more results, then I can decide what is the right way to go. 1st way Shared dreaming that we've been talking about in this thread. Two people who have some kind of connection, most probably better to have some emotional connection. Trying to meet in some location, would it be a place familiar and close to both dreamers, or it could be just a point on the map, some coordinates and photos attached. Looking for some scenario sync's in dreams, looking for some symbolical sync's, finding some logic. Probably exchanging some data like passwords or numbers. Moving forward step by step until we reach some good success. 2nd way Random Shared Dream or simply 'RSD'. This idea mostly came up to me due to my experience in SDing. Both of my what I consider genuine Shared Dreams happened with an unknown random person. Everything what happened in my life before and after could be coincidence, could be and most probably is the same 'fake shared dream with a person you know' that I was talking about. My first Shared Dream: I did not write a single DJ in first 5 years of lucid dreaming, this was my first posted dream on the web. It was my The Final Dream | flow of my soul At that time I was still shocked of this dream, this was the dream that made me to decide to quit lucid dreaming at that time. I first posted it around 1 year ago on some forum that was not even connected to lucid dreaming. After few days, one girl pm'ed me and said that she had exactly the same dream at around the same time. I did not know her at all, at that time I did not know anything about her. At first I thought it might be just another similar dream, but it wasn't. I asked her to share some details, and what she wrote was amazing. This RSD had everything to prove for me that Shared Dreaming does exist. What she wrote were small details that I never mentioned to anybody, she described the same objects in room, their size and color. She described the same smell. Both symbolical and emotional syncs' were here. She felt exactly the same I did, she had very similar thoughts on what was happening there. She knew all details that I did not post in that topic. It was like another 'me' telling me the same story. She had little bit different interpretation of few things, but those were really small thoughts. And it was impossible to get more sync's that I got in that one single LD. My second Shared Dream: This will sound weird to you, but I do not have a single proof or sync about this dream. It is one-sided experience, unless the second party will ever find and contact me. The reason why I believe it was a Shared Dream are simply my feelings, my intuition and my experience in lucid dreaming. Here it is - Random Shared Dream | flow of my soul I am very advanced in my dream control, and I usually know why and where things happen. I know when they should not happen, in 6 years I got enough experience in Lucid Dreaming, taking the fact that I LD almost every night and all dreams are lucid. All DC's are usually like NPC's in games, some of them seems to be active, but I always see some robotness in them. There are unique DC's, but still they do not behave just like humans do. What happened in this dream was out-of-order. Girl in this RSD was behaving on her own, noting affected her. None of my thoughts or intentions could control her. I have one of my spells that I call "clearness" this is when I do not like something in my dream, or I am not sure and I simply use 'clearness' and every single DC in my dream disappears. When I saw her doing the same thing, I was very surprised. I could never think that one of my DC's would use that kind of trick. When she did that 'clearness' spell of her own, I was pretty sure she is not one of my DC's and this is something different, maybe another LDer. When she took my hand and we walked through the door and appeared in another place, I was also shocked, because she did it fully intentionally, she knew where we are going and what for. Also I knew that she did not expect me to control her dream, she was very surprised when I teleported us back to the hotel. How Can We Recognize a Shared Dream? I believe this is one of the main questions that we have to answer in order to succeed in Shared Dreaming. Think for a second, we might be missing Shared Dreams every second night. Both Shared Dreams with people you know, people you want to dream with or just Random Shared Dreams with people you never saw or heard of. Other dreamers might be somewhere really close to us, they might be one of our DC's, they could be one of our Dream Guides, they could be somewhere near us but we do not pay attention to them or we fail to recognize that they are unique. We might be missing so many opportunities to meet some random people in our dreams, both lucid and non-lucid and invite them here to DV or simply give them idea of our nickname. Shared Dream Check(SDC) and All Night Awareness(ANA) So how can we recognize a shared dream, how can we recognize another dreamers? First of all we have to understand that we will be looking for both, Lucid Dreamers and Non-Lucid Dreamers, they would behave completely different. I think we can develop a habit similar to that one that we developed when we achieved our first lucid dream, the old-school reality checks and reminders, as well as the ADA of meeting other dreamers. This might sound complicated, but I believe it is possible and only looks complicated for the first time. When we were not lucid, we also thought that lucid dreaming is complicated, but when we learned how to do it, it does not look that complicated anymore. So, can we develop a habit of seeing strange patterns in behavior of all DC's? Can we develop a habit of seeing strange patterns in behavior of our dream world and see or feel the difference when our dream world changes in some weird way, that might be unintentionally or intentionally controlled by other dreamers? Just like you did you first unintentional reality check inside your dream that made you lucid, we can develop a state of awareness of other dreamers inside our dream that will someday trigger that Shared Dream Check tool. Just like we became lucid, we can become aware of other dreamers inside our dreams. I think this will be too much to mix both, awareness of reality and awareness of presence of other dreamers in waking life. We should develop All Night Awareness, that would be focused on finding strange behavior of DC's and strange behavior or changes in Dream World. Combined with Shared Dream Check, we can learn to recognize other people(dreamers) in our dreams. Shared Dream Check should be done in Lucid Dreams, might be even done in Non-Lucid's as both, way to become lucid and way to recognize a shared dream. This is like second level of awareness. p.s. all dreams available on blog. |