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Sandy Hook & The Cheshire Murders – Why the 911 Calls Matter

 
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Sandy Hook & The Cheshire Murders – Why the 911 Calls Matter

It has now been 11 months since the events at Sandy Hook Elementary School. During that time much has been made about the ever increasing length of time it is taking the State’s Attorney to finalize the report and the extraordinary lengths to which officials (and families) seem willing to go to keep the information of this event secret from the public.

The delays and ever changing deadlines seem suspicious enough for an event that has, in every way except officially, been blamed on a single, mentally disturbed young man but what if this isn’t the first time Connecticut police have dragged their feet and denied critical information to investigators and families in a major crime?

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Excellent piece @swansong. Reading again.
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Just woke up to this, awesome thanks!
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Cheshire murders: Documentary raises questions but cops aren't answering

[link to www.csmonitor.com]

Six years after a deadly home invasion, officials still refuse to answer questions about the emergency response, and — unlike other communities where notorious killings have occurred — there apparently has been no formal review of the police department's actions.

Seems like all these cops take their avoidance training at the same place.

If they can make this family wait this long...imagine how long they can make folks like us wait for answers.

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Excellent find swanny....

The difference is we've got a lot more eyes and ears on this Sandy Hoax event.

I still think there must be a way to force TPTB to cough up the truth and be held accountable. Hopefully.
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Excellent find swanny....

The difference is we've got a lot more eyes and ears on this Sandy Hoax event.

I still think there must be a way to force TPTB to cough up the truth and be held accountable. Hopefully.
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I was watching a JFK prog on History last night. They apparently conducted a rather large poll about conspiracies...mainly JFK. But near the end of the prog they ran a scroll giving the % of respondents that thought/believed other things...and one of them was Sandy Hook.
15% of respondents thought they weren't getting the whole story on the event.

I thought that was pretty high for an event like that. Gave me hope.
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Wow! I watched a bit of that show as well, but didn't see the end where they mentioned Sandy Hoax....

Off subject, on the JFK conspiracy show did you notice they didn't mention the new reserve currency that was already created and warehoused, first denomination were $5 notes backed by silver, supposed to replace our bullshit fiat fednote, that JFK was going to replace in the following weeks.....
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Wow! I watched a bit of that show as well, but didn't see the end where they mentioned Sandy Hoax....

Off subject, on the JFK conspiracy show did you notice they didn't mention the new reserve currency that was already created and warehoused, first denomination were $5 notes backed by silver, supposed to replace our bullshit fiat fednote, that JFK was going to replace in the following weeks.....
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They left a lot out of that prog. I was quite surprised they didn't show the clip of the secret service agent being waved off the limo detail at the airport.

That guy's reaction speaks volumes. The confused look on his face...the waving of his arms...and then his standing there bewildered as the limo drives away.
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Should anyone call you a ghoul, today...or question why you're waiting for the Sandy report or the 911 calls...you just remind them about Cheshire Connecticut...and how the cops lied and covered up...and how the only way that was discovered was from the release of information.
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Bump, this is really upsetting me. If it is true that the police were present during that 30 minutes...WTFingF.
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I like how you already can have a bias of what happened without evide evidence. And that you're begging for evidence to reassure your personal beliefs rather to know what actually happened.
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I like how you already can have a bias of what happened without evide evidence. And that you're begging for evidence to reassure your personal beliefs rather to know what actually happened.
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I'm not sure what you're saying. Are you talking to me? If so, I don't see where I've claimed any certainty or shared my personal beliefs. I would like to know what happened.
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Another false flag...dismiss
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Great article, Swansong! Thank you!
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Wow! I watched a bit of that show as well, but didn't see the end where they mentioned Sandy Hoax....

Off subject, on the JFK conspiracy show did you notice they didn't mention the new reserve currency that was already created and warehoused, first denomination were $5 notes backed by silver, supposed to replace our bullshit fiat fednote, that JFK was going to replace in the following weeks.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7659535


They left a lot out of that prog. I was quite surprised they didn't show the clip of the secret service agent being waved off the limo detail at the airport.

That guy's reaction speaks volumes. The confused look on his face...the waving of his arms...and then his standing there bewildered as the limo drives away.
 Quoting: swansong


I agree, that secret service thing always bothered me.

Recently though, I watched a clip of 2 secret service agents, one Clint Hill, I believe (the agent who jumped on the back of JFK's limo) and he was asked about that airport clip of the secret service agent waving his arms. And he said he was in the follow car and seen the whole thing personally, and that what the clip doesn't show is what the waving arm agent was saying, there is no sound etc. And that if there were sound you would hear the guy saying like: "Well see you guys later I'm going for a nice lunch, now my job is done until you all get back to the airport..."

Not exact quote but like that... like "I'll see you suckers later I'm gonna get a steak!!" Like that.

And so this Clint guy was there and maybe that was what happened, and not that the agent was upset that he was called off, maybe he was happy and joking, with an order given to him to stay and guard the plane.

So is the agent upset or joking with his fellows?

Without audio it's hard to tell, but one agent who was there and in the follow car described it in this joking way.

Just thought I'd throw that out there because I see that clip being repeated and 'perhaps' misinterpreted.
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Excellent find swanny....

The difference is we've got a lot more eyes and ears on this Sandy Hoax event.

I still think there must be a way to force TPTB to cough up the truth and be held accountable. Hopefully.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7659535


I was watching a JFK prog on History last night. They apparently conducted a rather large poll about conspiracies...mainly JFK. But near the end of the prog they ran a scroll giving the % of respondents that thought/believed other things...and one of them was Sandy Hook.
15% of respondents thought they weren't getting the whole story on the event.

I thought that was pretty high for an event like that. Gave me hope.
 Quoting: swansong


It's WAY more than that...but most people don't know where to look, or where to start looking and who to trust. Critical thinking is not a subject at school.
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[If they can make this family wait this long...imagine how long they can make folks like us wait for answers.
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Too many families waiting for answers-too much corruption, too many lies. Police that are not there to help the citizens in any way, and don't even pretend to try.

[link to www.forbes.com]

Analysis Of 13-Year Mysterious Death Of Cape Fear Police Woman
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Why can't you people get it through your sheep brains that it was staged? Just plain common sense would tell you, but I have so much photo evidence of phony people that I could soot all kinds of holes in the lie.
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Nice thread, swan!

Anyone here tell me why police would wait six minutes after arriving at school to enter it? Unless I'm interpreting the report incorrectly, it seems to be clearly stated but I did not see an explanation as to why?

I mention that point in my thread below, by the way (shameless plug) lol
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Nice thread, swan!

Anyone here tell me why police would wait six minutes after arriving at school to enter it? Unless I'm interpreting the report incorrectly, it seems to be clearly stated but I did not see an explanation as to why?

I mention that point in my thread below, by the way (shameless plug) lol
 Quoting: Krystle|Ann


Hi Krystle Ann,After Columbine,the procedure was changed so that they go in as soon as they get there.I don't know why they waited,either because it is a hoax or it's another case of LEOs not wanting to be in danger,despite signing up for a dangerous job.

P.S. I couldn't write you back(not a full member)but thanks and happy Thanksgiving to you!cheers
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Not exact quote but like that... like "I'll see you suckers later I'm gonna get a steak!!" Like that.
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Hadn't heard that. Thanks for sharing :)

Too many families waiting for answers-too much corruption, too many lies. Police that are not there to help the citizens in any way, and don't even pretend to try.

[link to www.forbes.com]

Analysis Of 13-Year Mysterious Death Of Cape Fear Police Woman
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


Ugghhh...as sad as that is I know there are 100s similar to it.

Nice thread, swan!
 Quoting: Krystle|Ann


Why Thank you, KA.

The article has little to do with what may or may not have happened at SHE...but rather, it is a stark...and local...example of just why information like 911 calls are so very important and should not be left to police and the state to interpret or disseminate.

Cops...lawyers...judges...they all lie Thankfully the founders of your country put measures in place to allow citizen over-sight of public institutions. We can't allow them to take that away.
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Nice thread, swan!

Anyone here tell me why police would wait six minutes after arriving at school to enter it? Unless I'm interpreting the report incorrectly, it seems to be clearly stated but I did not see an explanation as to why?

I mention that point in my thread below, by the way (shameless plug) lol
 Quoting: Krystle|Ann


Hi Krystle Ann,After Columbine,the procedure was changed so that they go in as soon as they get there.I don't know why they waited,either because it is a hoax or it's another case of LEOs not wanting to be in danger,despite signing up for a dangerous job.

P.S. I couldn't write you back(not a full member)but thanks and happy Thanksgiving to you!cheers
 Quoting: Prizefighter Inferno



That should be addressed since they cared to detail it... Six minutes seems like a loonnng time... Esp since they're saying the shooting took place within about five minutes, right?

What am I missing here?

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Nice thread, swan!

Anyone here tell me why police would wait six minutes after arriving at school to enter it? Unless I'm interpreting the report incorrectly, it seems to be clearly stated but I did not see an explanation as to why?

I mention that point in my thread below, by the way (shameless plug) lol
 Quoting: Krystle|Ann


Hi Krystle Ann,After Columbine,the procedure was changed so that they go in as soon as they get there.I don't know why they waited,either because it is a hoax or it's another case of LEOs not wanting to be in danger,despite signing up for a dangerous job.

P.S. I couldn't write you back(not a full member)but thanks and happy Thanksgiving to you!cheers
 Quoting: Prizefighter Inferno



That should be addressed since they cared to detail it... Six minutes seems like a loonnng time... Esp since they're saying the shooting took place within about five minutes, right?

What am I missing here?

Thanks =]
 Quoting: Krystle|Ann


This also reminds me of something about an officer from Redding showing up very early on scene, I think it was in the 9:40/9:45 range if memory serves... But Redding was about 15 minutes away... Need to clarify later when I get the chance I could be wrong.
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Hey!

I didn't even realize someone pinned this.

Thanks to whomever was responsible. That's my first pinned thread!

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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Tapes are released.

[link to news.yahoo.com]
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OH YEAH SWEET MOTHER OF GOD - I LOVE THIS JUDGE!!!
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"State's Attorney Stephen Sedensky said in a statement he was reviewing the judge's decision."


Ahahahahahahahahaha, Can't change them now eh?

I knew the judge waited for the Summary first - maybe there is hop, and not all Judges are corrupt!!


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Now we wait for Dec 4.
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Now we wait for Dec 4.
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Nonetheless..
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I like how the photo accompanying the article makes it appear as though people are leaving the court in tears after the decision...lol
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