GLP Bible Study (King James)

The reason he chose Abels is because God sees the hearts intentions as he saw with Cain Man to this day prophesses to know the answers to questions and ends up complicating things

You are sweet OP. The Bible does NOT interpret itself.

You have NO authority to interpret Scripture. God named
the Church who canonized j(compiled) Scripture that authority, He gave the Roman Catholic Church the authority to interpret Scripture.

What happens when everyone reading Scripture interprets it?
The fruit is error and division. The reason...

Private judgment of Scripture is heresy, it is no good.

The result, there are forty thousand Protestant groups, denominations, non-denominations (imagine) and home churchesQ

Which one is right?

The fruit of Protestantism itself doesn't agree with Scripture, there is one Lord, one faith, one Baptism (Eph 4:5).

Our Lord is going to ask you to become Roman Catholic soon
in a mystical, divine way, you'll know this awakening is
from God.




God bless you,


Mary

I agree wholeheartedly Canada and thank God that it is.

I hope nothing I said led you to believe I thought the work done on the cross wasn't enough because it was.

The father of Jesus is Joseph(us Flavius).

Good understandings. Have enjoyed this today and am looking forward to tomorrow. I'm going to do my best to stay on the chapter of the day. Try not to get ahead so to say.

A well deserved

Good night and God Biess

Gen 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.

Whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him seven-fold... Why?

Because if someone killed Cain the sentence Cain was under (that he should be a fugitive and a vagabond) would be defeated.

Condemned prisoners are under the special protection of the law; those that are appointed sacrifices to public justice must not be sacrificed to private revenge. God having said in Cain's case, Vengeance is mine, I will repay, it would be a daring usurpation for any man to take the sword out of God's hand

Condemned prisoners are under the special protection of the law; those that are appointed sacrifices to public justice must not be sacrificed to private revenge. God having said in Cain's case, Vengeance is mine, I will repay, it would be a daring usurpation for any man to take the sword out of God's hand and therefore avenged seven-fold. God has wise and holy ends in protecting and prolonging the lives even of very wicked men. - adapted and shortened from Matthew Henry

Rom_12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Look here:

Gen 4:24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.

Mat 18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
Mat 18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

Genesis Chapter 5
27th of November in the year of our Lord 2013
King James

5 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:

4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos:

7 And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters:

8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.

9 And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan:

10 And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters:

11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.

12 And Cainan lived seventy years and begat Mahalaleel:

13 And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters:

14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died.

15 And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared:

16 And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters:

17 And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died.

18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:

19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:

20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.

21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:

22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:

23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:

24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech.

26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters:

27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.

28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:

29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the Lord hath cursed.

30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters:

31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.

32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Everyone should be able to interpret scripture for themselves God would not exclude them from a right to interpret it. I don't mind a church interpreting scripture but it's going too far to say that church has the only authority on what God says. The bible is the authority and it needs to be up to the individual to understand it first hand.

Good morning Brightstarz, Brothers and Sisters. God Bless.

Chapter 5 to me is a clear geneology from Seth, son of Adam and Eve, to Noah. One could easily read it as such and be satisfied ready to go on to Chapter 6.

However verses 21-24, concerning Enoch, do raise questions.



21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:

22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:

23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:

24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

It appears clear the intent was to show a difference in as much that Enoch did not die. God took him. An obvious special relationship existed.

I realise this thread is a KJV Bible study and have no intention to derail. I do think that deeper study is warranted but will only recommend that we all Pray for wisdom, discernment and protection before doing so.



God Bless

Hello everyone I'm reading along with you as I had started a study two weeks ago and am also in Exodus but after reading RagIII, I went looking for some answers within Enoch going home with God. Thank you RagIII for initiating this query for me.

Enoch was saved at the age of 65 (Enoch confirmed his Faith in Jesus Christ) and his life really began at 65 when his child Methusala was born, that day he started his walk with Our Lord. He wanted his children to be in a Christian home. Enoch walked with God. Enoch grew in grace. He walked with God. He progressed with God. He walked with God for 300 years, he was 365 when God took him or raptured him.

Enoch walked with God but he walked alone as far as the world was concerned, these were very wicked days.

A quote from my query [link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]

“If you want to know what it is to walk with God, you had better get used to folks giving you the cold shoulder. If you walk with God, you had better get used to folks slandering you and calling you all kinds of dirty names. If you walk with God, you had better get used to people lying about you and you had better get used to going to bed weeping at night. If you walk with God, you had better get adjusted to this thing of being criticized by a world that hates Christ.

So by being Saved I confirm my Faith in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.

"What if it were now? Would you be ready? Bow now and turn to Jesus by faith and...like Enoch...walk with God...so you, too, may be taken."

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Aw, give it up, Titor 2. We're all entitled to our opinions.

You 'd better go on with your fake time travelling thread. It' s way more entertaining and you even have followers! Ain't that cool?

1 JOHN 7
5 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ
is born of God: and every one that loveth him
that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

2 By this we know that we love the children of God,
when we love God, and keep his commandments.

3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments:
and his commandments are not grievous.

4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world:
and this is the victory that overcometh the world,
even our faith.

5 Who is he that overcometh the world,
but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

6 This is he that came by water and blood,
even Jesus Christ; not by water only,
but by water and blood.
And it is the Spirit that beareth witness,
because the Spirit is truth.

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father,
the Word,
and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one.

28th of November in the year of our Lord 2013
Genesis chapter 6
King James Version (KJV)

6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.

9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.

12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

14 Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.

15 And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.

16 A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.

17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

18 But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.

19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.

20 Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.

21 And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.

22 Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.

Good Day Brothers and Sisters

Verses 1-4 of Chapter 6

These four verses confuse many and cause great debate. To find the Truth in this matter one will have to study a great deal. Again this is a study of the KJ Bible so hopefully additional verses from the KJ Bible can shed a little more light on the matter. I myself had to find earlier writings with translations from Hebrew

There has been a great deal of effort put into understanding these verses. The timing of needing to understand these verses could not be more fit. There is indeed a great deception being played out on mankind right now, and it is only going to get bigger. Sincere Prayers for Faith,decernmant, wisdom and protection should proceed this study.

God Bless

Amen to the loaded verses! A lot in there! Giants and Angels.

Hitler was not the first nor the last to splice DNA.


Happy Thanksgiving to all, Blessings to you all!

Messiah/Christ of God does not mean God Himself.
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Regarding 3 Witnesses in Heaven: the biblical God is higher:

Job 11:8 Can you probe the limits of the Almighty?8They are higher than the heavens—what can you do?They are deeper than the depths of the grave—what can you know?

2 Chronicles 6:18, 1 Kings 8:27 The heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain you.

Sorry but ....what a load of BS. I mean I love you, I do. Modern day RCC might as well wear the same cloth as the pharisees of old. They serve tradition and law, and hold themselves above the common person. The moment the Bible can only be deciphered from an organized body is the moment it fails.

Genesis Chapter 7
29th of November in the year of our Lord 2013
King James Version

7 And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.

2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.

4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

5 And Noah did according unto all that the Lord commanded him.

6 And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth.

7 And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood.

8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth,

9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.

10 And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.

11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;

14 They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.

15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.

16 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the Lord shut him in.

17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.

19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:

22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.

Good Day Brothers and Sisters

What with this being Thanksgiving I will be busy with family for most of the day. I Hope you all have a Blessed day.

God Bless

Ultimately, Cain represents taking and Abel represents giving. Abel provided the lamb (Symbolism for Christ's sacrifice), which was his best. Cain offered the work of his hands, which God rejects. Faith is what desires, not sacrifice.

Compare this to Abram. Abram was renamed AbraHam. The H is the Hebrew Hey. Hey means to behold a great work. The great work God does with Abraham is to secure the seed of the Son. Issac was the one God told Abraham to sacrifice (lamb), but instead provided a substitute (Ram caught in the thicket). This is symbolic of God asking us to give our best to him (Self). When we do, he gives it back as a Holy Spirit. He never intended to take what we love most. In this way, Abraham was asked not to make an idol out of the Son, much like we have done with the Son today. Instead, look to the Father, which is where Jesus pointed us.

HEY - {img} [link to pianodesk.com]

Compare this to God saying, "Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated." Here, Jacob was the farmer and Cain was the builder (Mason) and hunter. A farmer gives, then shares his produce. A hunter takes. A builder does the same. Nothing is given back. Again, God's will is to give and never take. Cain killed Abel. Esau killed Nimrod in the book of Jasher. He then returned to Jacob (meaning heel) and traded the birthright for bread and pottage.

The heel (Jacob) is Israel and the authority of the heel is when we look to God instead of our own authority. God expects us to give it to him first (the Son / Lamb). Ultimately, this is the other side of the open arms. Above, the Hey is your open arms to God.

Tav is the Hebrew letter of the mark of Christ, or two crossed sticks. This is his arms open to us. We cannot come to the father apart from faith first, then salvation by the name second.

TAV - {img} [link to pianodesk.com]

Truth is Aleph (Father / Strength) Mem (Water / Mother) Tav (Cross / Son). It's the word EMET.

If we take Aleph out of Emet, we get Met, or the word Death. Taking God out of our strong house makes us a weak house.

The name of Christ is his character (Giving).

Every story in the Bible points to this central message. Do unto others as you do unto yourself. God does not intend to take away what you love. He wants, instead, to give it to you from the platform of his authority and your faith that it can be trusted. See the link in my signature. Join the conversation.

Thank you StrongWaters.

God Bless Everyone. Happy Thanksgiving

Enjoy your thanksgiving RAGIII, and God bless you.

Thank you again RagIII for the question and conversation and further query of what I thought I knew, and didn't LOL.

Thank You StrongWaters your explanation is most helpful and your forum is wonderful.

Cain's lack of respect, of the proper heartfelt reason for giving, is quickly shown in his act of jealously murdering Abel.

God knows our Hearts. Cain did not raise his offering in the proper spirit of thanksgiving and honor, Abel did. It did not matter if the offering was fruit or livestock both would have been acceptable if they were joyously and freely given.

I am a sinner, and a sinner who performs a lot of good works is just a sinner with good works. It won’t save me.
This is where Abels path shows me that through Trusting Gods salvation through His son Jesus Christ I too can be righteous in serving The Lord Jesus and forgiven of my sins through a pure heart of repentance.

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