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Poor bastardz...trying to prove shit to gg!!!
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Dont trust any of these so called jr astrologers on here.they will bombard you with so called scientific facts that squews to there agenda.this is an old game,played for thousands of years.they say if you cant prove it with what they give you to work with it must be bullshit.and if you do prove it using there tools they will give you every reason why its wrong.dont you see, this is how the Jewdicial system works.its designed to confuse you. Astro,gg,and geo are no more than ambulance chasing shills telling you there jr astrologers,but acting like lawyers.people better start thinking for themselves,shit don't just disappear,and things don't explode and stay on the same course, even on earth with the gravity.shake a coke up and see if it stays in a straight line when you open it.no you will be cleaning it up from a 15 foot area around you.Idol1
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Good post Sir.
I just don't understand why people take gg and geo opinion like these two are experts in any field. Someone said: "Geo is good kid, nice to play with even tho he's slightly retarded" now that ish is funny lol
They just wanna be like their hero mr.A. Silly. People who take gg and geo are even more retarded.

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ahhh, the wonderful Ison thread is still here on the front page, to announce loud and clear - to those who resonate with the frequency of truth - that ISON is Intact and headed somewhere ... Nasa isn't saying, anything , as usual

I've been trying to figure out NASA's playbook concerning ISON, I don't believe that it is a stretch of one's imagination to say, Nasa has conspired to keep people as confused as possible - in hopes that by making their data as difficult to understand as possible - the majority of people will loose interest

and it has worked fairly will with the help of the Wannabee Teams recruited from within large forum - and lot of training ... and the way it has mainfest, I would guess that it is MKUltra level programing, because these members seem to be activated by ISoN posts - like pavlov's dogs ... I think their agenda here (nasa on the web) is greater than the usual spreading of disInfo ... I think that that "this" is just the first stage of this project -" to dazzel us with their brilliance - and baffel us with their bull-shit "

this is far from over folks ... if as NASA Wannabees have said, and Ison IS on the same path - the one that was going to make it "The Comet of the Century" - you know - the "christmas comet" the one that was going to spray us with that gyNormous tail - that got severed and left behind the Sun, and allowed Ison to accelerate dramatically, and just as it left the Sun's influence - ole King Sol gave it some kosmic kisses and it - just like Nasa predict became "captured" by our Sun, and changed its trajectory to make our Solar system it's new home ...

Please remember that it wasn't Nasa who pronounced Ison dead - it was the Wannabees ... - it's in their script - to discourage and confuse as many people who are interested in Ison - what they identify as "woo woos" and convince them that ISON is dead - or make discussing it such a bad experience - that people don't discuss it - in fear of being targeted for ridicule

so when Ison is re-discovered by Nasa - and they announce its "resurrection" on the msn - and tell everyone not to be alarmed by the "comet of the century" - its just a christmas light show folks - nothing to worry about bla bla bla - and all the sheeple will go back to sleep - just like they did with halebop - I'll bet 80% of the people alive when it was in our sight, didn't even look ... still if 20% look - that is a "critical mass" - I think the Agenda, of the Wannabees is to see that that doesn't happen - this is just "stage one" of the conspiracy to keep the public unaware - until it is too late to do anything but "enjoy the show" - I think Nasa's announcement will signal the elite that it is now time to retreat to their "safe-locations" - Martial Law to be enacted with UN troops and it will leave the Wannabees as scapegoats
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I am truly sorry not being apple to elaborate with a "wall of text" on your post which you truly deserve. I am just to tired to do that right now. But the "sheeple" are US, whether you want to be part of it or not, you are part of this as I am. That is our challenge, like it or not.
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New video


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This video is updated with to the 4th and shows ison to be around as big as mercury.
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Astro, you got such a hard on for the raw date. People ain't gonna believe you over their own eyes. We can see ison flying through space on the enhanced nasa images.
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Look at the raw images yourself then. You don't have to believe me, but I am telling the truth and it is all verifiable.
[link to imageshack.us]
[link to imageshack.us]
It's plain as day that the comet is not "intact." If I'm wrong, prove me wrong WITH THE RAW DATA.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


OK, It's just that the RAW data you are constantly referring to , even though it is available to anybody, CANNOT be viewed by most people on this forum, as it requires not only software applications that most people do not have, but also knowledge and experience in using such applications, or similar.
For those of you that REALLY want to look at the RAW images in question you would need this (or similar software), as a standalone application in order to convert FITS files to TIFF.
Version 3.0 of the FITS Liberator include the following new features:

FITS Liberator is now a stand-alone application, which means that Photoshop is no longer required.
Processing medium-sized images is now up to 35% faster, thanks to significantly improved memory management.
Processing large images are also faster thanks to delayed application of stretch functions.
FITS Liberator saves TIFF files that open in virtually any image processing software.
Open-source code base available on [link to code.google.com]
download link: [link to www.spacetelescope.org]
It is also available as a plugin to Photoshop (previous versions)
Be prepared though to a very steep learning curve in order to utilize the potentials of this software.
Here is a link to a pdf manual/userguide for the software.
[link to www.spacetelescope.org]

Read more: [link to www.spacetelescope.org]

The ftp server Astro is constantly is referring to is a PUBLIC server. It is public for reasons.

FITS is an abbreviation for Flexible Image Transport System and has been a standard since 1982 and is recognized by the International Astronomical Union.

FITS is a very ingenious way of storing/sharing image data, as the RAW files is very very small (hundreds of kilobytes, that when "developed" will be uncompressed TIFF images in ex number of megabytes).
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Thank you for the FITS Liberator !

hf
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You are welcome, and thank you. I must have forgot to include my username in this post? Sorry about that.
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OK, It's just that the RAW data you are constantly referring to , even though it is available to anybody, CANNOT be viewed by most people on this forum, as it requires not only software applications that most people do not have, but also knowledge and experience in using such applications, or similar.
For those of you that REALLY want to look at the RAW images in question you would need this (or similar software), as a standalone application in order to convert FITS files to TIFF.
Version 3.0 of the FITS Liberator include the following new features:

FITS Liberator is now a stand-alone application, which means that Photoshop is no longer required.
Processing medium-sized images is now up to 35% faster, thanks to significantly improved memory management.
Processing large images are also faster thanks to delayed application of stretch functions.
FITS Liberator saves TIFF files that open in virtually any image processing software.
Open-source code base available on [link to code.google.com]
download link: [link to www.spacetelescope.org]
It is also available as a plugin to Photoshop (previous versions)
Be prepared though to a very steep learning curve in order to utilize the potentials of this software.
Here is a link to a pdf manual/userguide for the software.
[link to www.spacetelescope.org]

Read more: [link to www.spacetelescope.org]

The ftp server Astro is constantly is referring to is a PUBLIC server. It is public for reasons.

FITS is an abbreviation for Flexible Image Transport System and has been a standard since 1982 and is recognized by the International Astronomical Union.

FITS is a very ingenious way of storing/sharing image data, as the RAW files is very very small (hundreds of kilobytes, that when "developed" will be uncompressed TIFF images in ex number of megabytes).
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'It's not MY fault that you don't have the required software or don't know how to use it. Just trust me when I tell you that I have, out of the goodness of my heart, spent some of my extremely limited & valuable free time doing the work for you & have given you ALL of the information that you need, in the way that any other rational, intelligent, supremely educated person would need to have it, in order to be able to come to the only conclusion that is supported by both NASA AND the images I so graciously compiled for you. Namely, that I am right, once again & as such have earned the right to have what I write accepted without question & to belittle anyone that is so obviously mentally deficient as to question my work, which I have proven to be impeccable & above reproach, by double checking my math against the formula supplied by NASA. Thank me & bow before my greatness or get off of my thread because, deep down, you surely must know I'm right & are just being stubborn, petty & a sore loser.'
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I like that!!
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I thought that I posted this under my real name, Kent. Strange!. Must have forgotten then?. I prefer not to be anonymous, shit happens. Hilarious response on your part anyway. Thanks.
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You are most Welcome! ;-)
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Re: Dec 6th UPDATE Page 17~ 100% Proof Positive ISON is Intact and Headed Towards Earth
It’s all fun & games … …until a giant space capacitor discharges petawatts of newly acquired potential energy into your atmosphere. Then:

• Worldwide Aurora Boreal
• Possible Earth's-spin acceleration
• HUGE thunder sounds
• Electric overload of all appliances
• Possible physical electric overload for some people's body.

I'd say everyone may go into a "coma-like state" for a while, kind of a shock forcing an out-of-body mass event, much like instant death, deep meditation or traveling the "bardo". May be felt (or we realize afterwards) like 3-5 days of darkness passed

Some people, possibly most, may became too confused & not be able to return to their own bodies and be recycle into the newborns afterwards; in particular anyone with poor grounding capabilities, bad dieting and other magneto/electric factors.

People who is able to return will have a knowledge/understanding of oneness after the experience. Much new ideas, recharge energy to develop those ideas and lots of cleanup and work to do.

Think about this: if population gets reduced by those means, FEMA camps may become the only sanitary & livable place for a while and FEMA coffins may be where 13 out of every 14 person will have to be buried.

Not a doomtard, Yogi & strong empath with a crystaline aura.
This has happened before and every major philosophy has metaphors about it.
"Blue Star Kashina"'s fifth world, Trumpets of Armagedon, "Two brothers sowing a field; one will remain", Kali Yuga & the Shiva Dance, etc.
...


-OM

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“Nothing comes unannounced, but many can miss the announcement. So it’s very important to actually listen to your own intuition rather than driving through it.” – Terence McKenna
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49348903

Very interesting scenario. Might even play out to a certain extent, but the powers that be has already foreseen and prevented that from from happening. (we are all being played
maybe me more than you).
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The Powers That *WERE*
Language is the tool of thought & the actual powers resides now on the populace mind. We are the Earth's Soul's fragments and the present process is nothing more than an increase in understanding/connectedness of each of us.

This time as a "time of tribulations" is more the becoming of the "monad" human mind by "lifting/thinning of the vail" of separateness. ISON is helping by reseting the whole solar system, providing the huges amount of energy needed (acumulated little by little) until a quantic release to jump into a next phase. This is something that takes tme since, like a moving train thats been millennia push by chaos, takes a time to fully "slow & stop". (sync as the one mind / achive khrystic consciousness / mesiah event"

Next full moon, dic/17. should be monitored more than the 16th as the congruent energetic peek point. A becoming of the one mind, one soul.


~OM
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"A student yell to the rabbi:
-Dear Rabbi, tha messiah is here!!
-Wait!! - says the rabbi - How many are there?
-One dear Rabbi. - says the student.
-No, - answers the Rabbi - Come back when you see many, many more."

"
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I am truly sorry my friend, I lost you halfway through, or less, it's 6 in the morning here, and I am very tired, so to contemplate your points in a manner that would do you justice is beyond my capability right now.
Mayby some other time.
I will not be here for very long anyway, because this forum is a constant drain of resources on my part. If I get back here tomorrow/today I might be in a better condition to contemplate your points in a decent manner, but as of now I am out.
Take care
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Sleep well friend.
Ask anything you wish & I'll answer to the best of my knowledge and experience

~OM
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"NASA also hinted there may be a bit of hope for ISON in its latest update posted onlineWednesday. The agency said it will use space telescopes to monitor ISON for the next several weeks because it's possible that dust is hiding a new, smaller version of it.

"Most agree that up to 90% of ISON was destroyed, leaving approximately 10% of the comet intact. If previous sungrazing comets are any guides, there may be a sizeable piece of comet nucleus left. At this point, though, scientists are waiting for a variety of telescopes to make observations before the status of Comet ISON can be confirmed."

[link to www.cnn.com]
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to go with latest video
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calling all Wannabees (I know that you are lurking - this is prime time on the web)

I have a question concerning the present Trajectory of Ison, since it made its dramatic adjustment and left you guys eating its dust ... strange, don't you think, how NASA's own pictures proved how decieved your self-limited perspecives are... but hay, I'm not holding it against you - you are just doing your job ... and a fine job you have done as wet-blankets.

When - I mean, how long does it usually take NASA's elite scientists to calculate a new trajectory ... 'cause it seems to also have accelerated and we probably don't have two weeks, and much less than the suggested month, before it could possible be "brighter than the FULL-moon" if it is as Astro "proved" still continuing on the original path - that is what Brian Gumbol told us NASA said originally - right?

so now that we know,as this topic title suggests - that Ison IS still a comet, and that it has changed its trajectory - are we still going to see it "streak across the night skys from horizon to horizon like Brian repeated to us - or WHAT? - but more importantly WHEN

I'm thinking 24 hours should be plenty of time to crunch the numbers ...but I bet we don't hear anything "official" until the 20% start convincing their family, friends, and neighbors - that they can SEE IT ALREADY - in the daytime ... NASA's gonna HAVE to say something soon - or NO ONE is going to listen to anything they have to say - ever again.

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It’s all fun & games … …until a giant space capacitor discharges petawatts of newly acquired potential energy into your atmosphere. Then:

• Worldwide Aurora Boreal
• Possible Earth's-spin acceleration
• HUGE thunder sounds
• Electric overload of all appliances
• Possible physical electric overload for some people's body.

I'd say everyone may go into a "coma-like state" for a while, kind of a shock forcing an out-of-body mass event, much like instant death, deep meditation or traveling the "bardo". May be felt (or we realize afterwards) like 3-5 days of darkness passed

Some people, possibly most, may became too confused & not be able to return to their own bodies and be recycle into the newborns afterwards; in particular anyone with poor grounding capabilities, bad dieting and other magneto/electric factors.

People who is able to return will have a knowledge/understanding of oneness after the experience. Much new ideas, recharge energy to develop those ideas and lots of cleanup and work to do.

Think about this: if population gets reduced by those means, FEMA camps may become the only sanitary & livable place for a while and FEMA coffins may be where 13 out of every 14 person will have to be buried.

Not a doomtard, Yogi & strong empath with a crystaline aura.
This has happened before and every major philosophy has metaphors about it.
"Blue Star Kashina"'s fifth world, Trumpets of Armagedon, "Two brothers sowing a field; one will remain", Kali Yuga & the Shiva Dance, etc.
...


-OM

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“Nothing comes unannounced, but many can miss the announcement. So it’s very important to actually listen to your own intuition rather than driving through it.” – Terence McKenna
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THANK YOU! I have been saying, for some time now, that my greatest concern had been the Electrical Interaction between the Sun & Comet ISON, Comet ISON & Planet Earth & how/when the Sun would respond to THAT interaction.
I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends).

"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."

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"Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward

Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters!

"When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007
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It’s all fun & games … …until a giant space capacitor discharges petawatts of newly acquired potential energy into your atmosphere. Then:

• Worldwide Aurora Boreal
• Possible Earth's-spin acceleration
• HUGE thunder sounds
• Electric overload of all appliances
• Possible physical electric overload for some people's body.

I'd say everyone may go into a "coma-like state" for a while, kind of a shock forcing an out-of-body mass event, much like instant death, deep meditation or traveling the "bardo". May be felt (or we realize afterwards) like 3-5 days of darkness passed

Some people, possibly most, may became too confused & not be able to return to their own bodies and be recycle into the newborns afterwards; in particular anyone with poor grounding capabilities, bad dieting and other magneto/electric factors.

People who is able to return will have a knowledge/understanding of oneness after the experience. Much new ideas, recharge energy to develop those ideas and lots of cleanup and work to do.

Think about this: if population gets reduced by those means, FEMA camps may become the only sanitary & livable place for a while and FEMA coffins may be where 13 out of every 14 person will have to be buried.

Not a doomtard, Yogi & strong empath with a crystaline aura.
This has happened before and every major philosophy has metaphors about it.
"Blue Star Kashina"'s fifth world, Trumpets of Armagedon, "Two brothers sowing a field; one will remain", Kali Yuga & the Shiva Dance, etc.
...


-OM

yodaIdol1

“Nothing comes unannounced, but many can miss the announcement. So it’s very important to actually listen to your own intuition rather than driving through it.” – Terence McKenna
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THANK YOU! I have been saying, for some time now, that my greatest concern had been the Electrical Interaction between the Sun & Comet ISON, Comet ISON & Planet Earth & how/when the Sun would respond to THAT interaction.
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You are Welcome Bro!
Check another reply a bit down that one which expands on that particular electrical aspect.

~OM
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ahhh, the wonderful Ison thread is still here on the front page, to announce loud and clear - to those who resonate with the frequency of truth - that ISON is Intact and headed somewhere ... Nasa isn't saying, anything , as usual

I've been trying to figure out NASA's playbook concerning ISON, I don't believe that it is a stretch of one's imagination to say, Nasa has conspired to keep people as confused as possible - in hopes that by making their data as difficult to understand as possible - the majority of people will loose interest

and it has worked fairly will with the help of the Wannabee Teams recruited from within large forum - and lot of training ... and the way it has mainfest, I would guess that it is MKUltra level programing, because these members seem to be activated by ISoN posts - like pavlov's dogs ... I think their agenda here (nasa on the web) is greater than the usual spreading of disInfo ... I think that that "this" is just the first stage of this project -" to dazzel us with their brilliance - and baffel us with their bull-shit "

this is far from over folks ... if as NASA Wannabees have said, and Ison IS on the same path - the one that was going to make it "The Comet of the Century" - you know - the "christmas comet" the one that was going to spray us with that gyNormous tail - that got severed and left behind the Sun, and allowed Ison to accelerate dramatically, and just as it left the Sun's influence - ole King Sol gave it some kosmic kisses and it - just like Nasa predict became "captured" by our Sun, and changed its trajectory to make our Solar system it's new home ...

Please remember that it wasn't Nasa who pronounced Ison dead - it was the Wannabees ... - it's in their script - to discourage and confuse as many people who are interested in Ison - what they identify as "woo woos" and convince them that ISON is dead - or make discussing it such a bad experience - that people don't discuss it - in fear of being targeted for ridicule

so when Ison is re-discovered by Nasa - and they announce its "resurrection" on the msn - and tell everyone not to be alarmed by the "comet of the century" - its just a christmas light show folks - nothing to worry about bla bla bla - and all the sheeple will go back to sleep - just like they did with halebop - I'll bet 80% of the people alive when it was in our sight, didn't even look ... still if 20% look - that is a "critical mass" - I think the Agenda, of the Wannabees is to see that that doesn't happen - this is just "stage one" of the conspiracy to keep the public unaware - until it is too late to do anything but "enjoy the show" - I think Nasa's announcement will signal the elite that it is now time to retreat to their "safe-locations" - Martial Law to be enacted with UN troops and it will leave the Wannabees as scapegoats
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Their ultimate Lazarus Comet.
I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends).

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Wow....nice!
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Re: Dec 6th UPDATE Page 17~ 100% Proof Positive ISON is Intact and Headed Towards Earth
100% proof positive ISON is intact and headed towards Earth.

It will not hit Earth but will be millions of miles above our north pole.

Note: Watch all of this video for the proof before speaking out like a "know it all jackass" and making yourself look like an idiot.


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wow just wow excellent analysis u r so good u can make nasa eat yr dog shit lol

doom on bro dec 16

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told ya, the only things they're shifting around are the facts of every matter...

got ya playin' pick-up stix...

babylon = confusion
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Wow....nice!
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Yep. It's a good one. :D
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Re: Dec 6th UPDATE Page 17~ 100% Proof Positive ISON is Intact and Headed Towards Earth
So, I've only been passively observing a thread here and there on this. What is the significance of the 16th? That's the day it's supposed to form a triangle with us & Venus over our north pole, right?

This guy seems pretty amped about what he's laying out, saying information is being "hidden" from us, but why?

Obviously, speculation is just exactly that, but are there re-occurring themes out there that spell out something more specific on what is probable to happen as it passes overhead on the 16th?
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for all their endless squalking about homeland security

they've proven their mettle in full, such as it be

there's no goin' back on it either, not at this point
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PIR can we use this thread for all real data coming in over the next couple weeks. Others please stop fighting with the trolls and lets focus on new pictures and data from on the gground. Trust nothing from nasa and we should see this to the west of venus by dec 12. by dec 16 it should be betwwen earth and venus.
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This so called model you mentioned by the end of your video has never existed. It's nothing but a pre-fabricated story meant only to illude The people with the idea that NASA (which is nothing but a Label, 'coz the real research is not being done by NASA, they are just a cover-up lol) is giving them the truth, so they'll not look for it anywhere else.

You're right about ISON not fragmenting its core(s), but you're wrong when you said that NASA was wrong, because they were not. They knew it, they know it. Everything. And they are certainly not sharring what they DO know with THE people. Simply because they've never done it. It's not only pointless but also risky.

Have you ever asked yourself 'WHAT IF' you were right? What IF ISON was heading our way? Have you ever considered the damage it would cause? the basics of k.energy=1/2*m*v². Do the math. The energy released in one direct impact would be 10x more than enough to dizimate more than 2/3 of the planet, taking into account the shock-wave caused even before it had touched the ground.

The ground would crack-open and violently move in and outwards, compromissing entirely the crost of the planet. The particles on the ground zero and quilometers away would be vibrating so intensively that they would just burn.. everything. Should it hit the ocean, most of the water would go to the atmosphere, or be completely evaporated. The most outer part would be pushed away so violently that it would become a solid wall and destroy everything on its path. Not to mention the air-blast and the temperature.

The aftermath is not so difficult to imagine. Just look at Jupiter, Mars, or even the Moon. That's exactly what we would be looking should ISON hit the Earth, and it's not funny, friend.

And when you think about what 'knowing' it would cause to these same people I mentioned before, you get to understand WHY they'd never tell us anything. And you should be thankfull to that. The truth kills, and get you killed - sometimes not by your gvt, but by your fellows, or even by yourself. Ignorance is, in facto, a bliss. Cya

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Thank you very much for your remarks/opinions. Some very good points. Unfortunately I am not in a position to comment your points in detail, as that would require appr. an hour of contemplating your points, which I do not have at this moment, but thank you for your time spent on this thread
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My pleasure.

I have already said it before, but won't kill me say it again: one cannot say whether its core has or not been compromised, or how significant it was, just by looking at a few random pics from random satellites at random times. And even if a pattern could've been pointed out using these same pics, they'd not be analyzing the real things, but just one random assumption based on its exposure, brightness, etc.

These are not determinant factors though. The real astronomers do not rely on these things because they simply have the proper equipment to do much more than this; this is what we used to do 100-years ago - and btw, this is what amateur astronomers do nowadays. A-M-A-T-E-U-R. Meaning, you're not doing real science, you're living a 100-years in the past using recent data from the scientific community, without realizing that it'd be the same thing of trying to fuel up the tank of a electric car using gasoline - even if it did work, somehow, the result would be much less accurate.

Bottom line, if we do consider the possibility of being struck by a 2~4km rock traveling at ~~2x10^6km/h (or ~~5.55x10^5 km/s), the k.energy would be... devastating.

p.s: you have already seen what NASA is willing to do to deceive you when they, willingly, manipulated the supposedly "live" images from the Satellites pointing at the SUN; you've already seen how contradicting the information being shared with The people can be, and how wrong they've proven to be...

Well, I've already said enough.

I cannot affirm what's going to happen, and none can. So stop with this non-sense arguing about who's right about what because neither NASA, nor you, amateur astronomers, have such knowledge. Actually, you not only lack the most likely know-about about what's going on, but you also lack the proper equipment to analyze the data you're being given.

Only time will tell.

Cya
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This so called model you mentioned by the end of your video has never existed. It's nothing but a pre-fabricated story meant only to illude The people with the idea that NASA (which is nothing but a Label, 'coz the real research is not being done by NASA, they are just a cover-up lol) is giving them the truth, so they'll not look for it anywhere else.

You're right about ISON not fragmenting its core(s), but you're wrong when you said that NASA was wrong, because they were not. They knew it, they know it. Everything. And they are certainly not sharring what they DO know with THE people. Simply because they've never done it. It's not only pointless but also risky.

Have you ever asked yourself 'WHAT IF' you were right? What IF ISON was heading our way? Have you ever considered the damage it would cause? the basics of k.energy=1/2*m*v². Do the math. The energy released in one direct impact would be 10x more than enough to dizimate more than 2/3 of the planet, taking into account the shock-wave caused even before it had touched the ground.

The ground would crack-open and violently move in and outwards, compromissing entirely the crost of the planet. The particles on the ground zero and quilometers away would be vibrating so intensively that they would just burn.. everything. Should it hit the ocean, most of the water would go to the atmosphere, or be completely evaporated. The most outer part would be pushed away so violently that it would become a solid wall and destroy everything on its path. Not to mention the air-blast and the temperature.

The aftermath is not so difficult to imagine. Just look at Jupiter, Mars, or even the Moon. That's exactly what we would be looking should ISON hit the Earth, and it's not funny, friend.

And when you think about what 'knowing' it would cause to these same people I mentioned before, you get to understand WHY they'd never tell us anything. And you should be thankfull to that. The truth kills, and get you killed - sometimes not by your gvt, but by your fellows, or even by yourself. Ignorance is, in facto, a bliss. Cya

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Thank you very much for your remarks/opinions. Some very good points. Unfortunately I am not in a position to comment your points in detail, as that would require appr. an hour of contemplating your points, which I do not have at this moment, but thank you for your time spent on this thread
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My pleasure.

I have already said it before, but won't kill me say it again: one cannot say whether its core has or not been compromised, or how significant it was, just by looking at a few random pics from random satellites at random times. And even if a pattern could've been pointed out using these same pics, they'd not be analyzing the real things, but just one random assumption based on its exposure, brightness, etc.

These are not determinant factors though. The real astronomers do not rely on these things because they simply have the proper equipment to do much more than this; this is what we used to do 100-years ago - and btw, this is what amateur astronomers do nowadays. A-M-A-T-E-U-R. Meaning, you're not doing real science, you're living a 100-years in the past using recent data from the scientific community, without realizing that it'd be the same thing of trying to fuel up the tank of a electric car using gasoline - even if it did work, somehow, the result would be much less accurate.

Bottom line, if we do consider the possibility of being struck by a 2~4km rock traveling at ~~2x10^6km/h (or ~~5.55x10^5 km/s), the k.energy would be... devastating.

p.s: you have already seen what NASA is willing to do to deceive you when they, willingly, manipulated the supposedly "live" images from the Satellites pointing at the SUN; you've already seen how contradicting the information being shared with The people can be, and how wrong they've proven to be...

Well, I've already said enough.

I cannot affirm what's going to happen, and none can. So stop with this non-sense arguing about who's right about what because neither NASA, nor you, amateur astronomers, have such knowledge. Actually, you not only lack the most likely know-about about what's going on, but you also lack the proper equipment to analyze the data you're being given.

Only time will tell.

Cya
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So Official astronomer of GLP is 100 years behindl
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How many times do I have to post this link before you get it?
ftp://stereoftp.nascom.nasa.gov/pub/ins_data/secchi/L0/a/img/​hi_1/20131201/
ftp://stereoftp.nascom.nasa.gov/pub/ins_data/secchi/L0/a/img/​hi_1/20131202/
ftp://stereoftp.nascom.nasa.gov/pub/ins_data/secchi/L0/a/img/​hi_1/20131203/
ftp://stereoftp.nascom.nasa.gov/pub/ins_data/secchi/L0/a/img/​hi_1/20131204/
It's no secret, it's publicly available and always has been. Not my fault the guy who made the video was too ignorant to look at the raw data first.
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Actually it's based on years of experience and the data..
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No, apparently not. There is now a willful ignorance of the raw data and a deliberate desire NOT to use the raw data which is both amusing and sad.
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Astro, you got such a hard on for the raw date. People ain't gonna believe you over their own eyes. We can see ison flying through space on the enhanced nasa images.
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Look at the raw images yourself then. You don't have to believe me, but I am telling the truth and it is all verifiable.
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It's plain as day that the comet is not "intact." If I'm wrong, prove me wrong WITH THE RAW DATA.
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OK, It's just that the RAW data you are constantly referring to , even though it is available to anybody, CANNOT be viewed by most people on this forum, as it requires not only software applications that most people do not have, but also knowledge and experience in using such applications, or similar.
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Well if you want to get into this kind of analysis, that is the skill set you need to have. There are a number of programs you can use to view and process fits files. I use Deep Sky Stacker and PixInsight primarily. IRIS is another great program and a free alternative to PixInsight.
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I only use FITS Liberator if I'm working with Hubble data. For STEREO I use PixInsight. IRIS and even ImageJ (in a pinch) would be free alternatives to that.
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live stream discussing what ACTUALLY happened with ISON

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How many times do I have to post this link before you get it?
ftp://stereoftp.nascom.nasa.gov/pub/ins_data/secchi/L0/a/img/​hi_1/20131201/
ftp://stereoftp.nascom.nasa.gov/pub/ins_data/secchi/L0/a/img/​hi_1/20131202/
ftp://stereoftp.nascom.nasa.gov/pub/ins_data/secchi/L0/a/img/​hi_1/20131203/
ftp://stereoftp.nascom.nasa.gov/pub/ins_data/secchi/L0/a/img/​hi_1/20131204/
It's no secret, it's publicly available and always has been. Not my fault the guy who made the video was too ignorant to look at the raw data first.
...

Actually it's based on years of experience and the data..
...

No, apparently not. There is now a willful ignorance of the raw data and a deliberate desire NOT to use the raw data which is both amusing and sad.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Astro, you got such a hard on for the raw date. People ain't gonna believe you over their own eyes. We can see ison flying through space on the enhanced nasa images.
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Look at the raw images yourself then. You don't have to believe me, but I am telling the truth and it is all verifiable.
[link to imageshack.us]
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It's plain as day that the comet is not "intact." If I'm wrong, prove me wrong WITH THE RAW DATA.
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Nobody here is saying ISON is intact, in fact, everyone is saying it is fragmented which actually made ISON more dangerous.

However, you also said ISON has disintegrated, which made those following you to believe ISON is no more than a cloud of micron sized dust particles.
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Thank you for clarifying...I hate logging in but every time I catch *one of the assholes* lying or putting words in others mouths or changing up their words to suit their agenda I HOPE THAT OTHERS SEE IT TOO!
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This so called model you mentioned by the end of your video has never existed. It's nothing but a pre-fabricated story meant only to illude The people with the idea that NASA (which is nothing but a Label, 'coz the real research is not being done by NASA, they are just a cover-up lol) is giving them the truth, so they'll not look for it anywhere else.

You're right about ISON not fragmenting its core(s), but you're wrong when you said that NASA was wrong, because they were not. They knew it, they know it. Everything. And they are certainly not sharring what they DO know with THE people. Simply because they've never done it. It's not only pointless but also risky.

Have you ever asked yourself 'WHAT IF' you were right? What IF ISON was heading our way? Have you ever considered the damage it would cause? the basics of k.energy=1/2*m*v². Do the math. The energy released in one direct impact would be 10x more than enough to dizimate more than 2/3 of the planet, taking into account the shock-wave caused even before it had touched the ground.

The ground would crack-open and violently move in and outwards, compromissing entirely the crost of the planet. The particles on the ground zero and quilometers away would be vibrating so intensively that they would just burn.. everything. Should it hit the ocean, most of the water would go to the atmosphere, or be completely evaporated. The most outer part would be pushed away so violently that it would become a solid wall and destroy everything on its path. Not to mention the air-blast and the temperature.

The aftermath is not so difficult to imagine. Just look at Jupiter, Mars, or even the Moon. That's exactly what we would be looking should ISON hit the Earth, and it's not funny, friend.

And when you think about what 'knowing' it would cause to these same people I mentioned before, you get to understand WHY they'd never tell us anything. And you should be thankfull to that. The truth kills, and get you killed - sometimes not by your gvt, but by your fellows, or even by yourself. Ignorance is, in facto, a bliss. Cya

 Quoting: Bas

Thank you very much for your remarks/opinions. Some very good points. Unfortunately I am not in a position to comment your points in detail, as that would require appr. an hour of contemplating your points, which I do not have at this moment, but thank you for your time spent on this thread
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My pleasure.

I have already said it before, but won't kill me say it again: one cannot say whether its core has or not been compromised, or how significant it was, just by looking at a few random pics from random satellites at random times. And even if a pattern could've been pointed out using these same pics, they'd not be analyzing the real things, but just one random assumption based on its exposure, brightness, etc.

These are not determinant factors though. The real astronomers do not rely on these things because they simply have the proper equipment to do much more than this; this is what we used to do 100-years ago - and btw, this is what amateur astronomers do nowadays. A-M-A-T-E-U-R. Meaning, you're not doing real science, you're living a 100-years in the past using recent data from the scientific community, without realizing that it'd be the same thing of trying to fuel up the tank of a electric car using gasoline - even if it did work, somehow, the result would be much less accurate.

Bottom line, if we do consider the possibility of being struck by a 2~4km rock traveling at ~~2x10^6km/h (or ~~5.55x10^5 km/s), the k.energy would be... devastating.

p.s: you have already seen what NASA is willing to do to deceive you when they, willingly, manipulated the supposedly "live" images from the Satellites pointing at the SUN; you've already seen how contradicting the information being shared with The people can be, and how wrong they've proven to be...

Well, I've already said enough.

I cannot affirm what's going to happen, and none can. So stop with this non-sense arguing about who's right about what because neither NASA, nor you, amateur astronomers, have such knowledge. Actually, you not only lack the most likely know-about about what's going on, but you also lack the proper equipment to analyze the data you're being given.

Only time will tell.

Cya
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So Official astronomer of GLP is 100 years behindl
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We didn't have high bit depth fits files 100 years ago. But indeed orbital mechanics is a very old science, and the equations needed to figure out that this comet isn't a threat to reach earth were developed a long time ago. Kind of sad then that GLP is so illiterate in science that they can't figure that out.
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Astro, you got such a hard on for the raw date. People ain't gonna believe you over their own eyes. We can see ison flying through space on the enhanced nasa images.
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Look at the raw images yourself then. You don't have to believe me, but I am telling the truth and it is all verifiable.
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It's plain as day that the comet is not "intact." If I'm wrong, prove me wrong WITH THE RAW DATA.
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Nobody here is saying ISON is intact, in fact, everyone is saying it is fragmented which actually made ISON more dangerous.

However, you also said ISON has disintegrated, which made those following you to believe ISON is no more than a cloud of micron sized dust particles.
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Thank you for clarifying...I hate logging in but every time I catch *one of the assholes* lying or putting words in others mouths or changing up their words to suit their agenda I HOPE THAT OTHERS SEE IT TOO!
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You're right about ISON not fragmenting its core(s),
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I'm sorry, what was that?
You're right about ISON not fragmenting its core(s),
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When Comet Ison actually emerged from the brightness of the sun it was spinning. It could be seen wobbling in successive images. The spin caused and will continue to cause the pieces that were once the nucleus of Ison to spread out. In some images the field is barely seen but when a solar flair erupts and lights up the field it is huge and consists of both asteroid and meteor sized pieces. This field will continue spinning and expanding around the trajectory line.
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^ THIS sounds about right...
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Massive, Unprecedented Discovery Rocks the World & Shakes Up Science! Must-See!(VIDEO)

This video documents a discovery made by an American in 2010.
He found that the 'stories' written in the Bible, are etched in the earth in the form of images...pictures. SONAR MAPPING has revealed this intelligent design. The video takes you through all of the major images we found on land and sea. The earth is a living Mosaic...with a BIG message.


BEASTS of PROPHECY:

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Hey astro, if the moon explodes we will be ok right?I mean the broken parts will still be in the moons gravitational field and all right?no fragments would stray down to earth right?surely the earh wouldn't get creamed with moon cheese right?you see it is basic logic that tells you that all these things would happen.use basic logic people,think for yourself.
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the moon has a lot more mass and could generate a lot more energy, and isnt going at hundreds of miles per hour. so the resulting explosion would look a lot different.
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Actually, the moon goes about 2,225 miles per hour. Derp
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Hahaha...this is fun...

Ima go get me some coffee and

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People listen to this guy and take note...don't trust nasa for shit. Try to get our own pics.

And what the hell was the purpose of a huge GLP telescope? If it never gets used?

People donated money to that thing and just got robbed!

Where are the images?
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Right here:
:isondrizzle:
Sorry, but I can't be up there every weekend to take pictures of it. The main scope isn't yet ready for fully remote operation, so I have to be there to do it.
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He can't be up there because he has to Shill, Shill, Shill, 24/7, not because he has a real job or anything.
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ooh good point. come on dr astro! hop in your car every night and make the hours long trip to take our pictures. we demand it of you. you owe us. we own you, so get out there and do it and never mind about your real life.
yeah right.
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Hours away? Yeah, right! Some of us live in Florida and KNOW BETTER!
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Thank you very much for your remarks/opinions. Some very good points. Unfortunately I am not in a position to comment your points in detail, as that would require appr. an hour of contemplating your points, which I do not have at this moment, but thank you for your time spent on this thread
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My pleasure.

I have already said it before, but won't kill me say it again: one cannot say whether its core has or not been compromised, or how significant it was, just by looking at a few random pics from random satellites at random times. And even if a pattern could've been pointed out using these same pics, they'd not be analyzing the real things, but just one random assumption based on its exposure, brightness, etc.

These are not determinant factors though. The real astronomers do not rely on these things because they simply have the proper equipment to do much more than this; this is what we used to do 100-years ago - and btw, this is what amateur astronomers do nowadays. A-M-A-T-E-U-R. Meaning, you're not doing real science, you're living a 100-years in the past using recent data from the scientific community, without realizing that it'd be the same thing of trying to fuel up the tank of a electric car using gasoline - even if it did work, somehow, the result would be much less accurate.

Bottom line, if we do consider the possibility of being struck by a 2~4km rock traveling at ~~2x10^6km/h (or ~~5.55x10^5 km/s), the k.energy would be... devastating.

p.s: you have already seen what NASA is willing to do to deceive you when they, willingly, manipulated the supposedly "live" images from the Satellites pointing at the SUN; you've already seen how contradicting the information being shared with The people can be, and how wrong they've proven to be...

Well, I've already said enough.

I cannot affirm what's going to happen, and none can. So stop with this non-sense arguing about who's right about what because neither NASA, nor you, amateur astronomers, have such knowledge. Actually, you not only lack the most likely know-about about what's going on, but you also lack the proper equipment to analyze the data you're being given.

Only time will tell.

Cya
 Quoting: Bas

So Official astronomer of GLP is 100 years behindl
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51144908


We didn't have high bit depth fits files 100 years ago. But indeed orbital mechanics is a very old science, and the equations needed to figure out that this comet isn't a threat to reach earth were developed a long time ago. Kind of sad then that GLP is so illiterate in science that they can't figure that out.
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These are not determinant factors though. The real astronomers do not rely on these things because they simply have the proper equipment to do much more than this; this is what we used to do 100-years ago - and btw, this is what amateur astronomers do nowadays. A-M-A-T-E-U-R. Meaning, you're not doing real science, you're living a 100-years in the past using recent data from the scientific community, without realizing that it'd be the same thing of trying to fuel up the tank of a electric car using gasoline - even if it did work, somehow, the result would be much less accurate.

You said you are amateur astronomer.
Now read what that dude said abt AMATEUR astronomers.
Don't be mad





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