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Canadian H5N1 (bird flu) Victim's Symptoms Not Typical

 
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EDMONTON - The World Health Organization has confirmed that North America's first H5N1 patient was a woman in her late 20s.

One of the WHO's flu experts says the agency would like more information on her illness, because initial reports have suggested her symptoms were not entirely typical of H5N1 infections.

There have been no recent H5N1 outbreaks reported by China, but the timing of the woman's symptoms suggest she must have been infected there.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.ca]

I find it quite odd (like a lottery win) that this girl goes to China for a visit and contracts H5N1, mean while over a billion Chinese and millions of visitors to China have not contracted H5N1 in over a year.
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"We usually ask people about poultry exposure, poultry market exposure and all of those things," he says. "But from the beginning, there has always been a percentage of people that we haven't really known how they got infected."
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I find it quite odd (like a lottery win) that this girl goes to China for a visit and contracts H5N1, mean while over a billion Chinese and millions of visitors to China have not contracted H5N1 in over a year.
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Or odd like a movie where an infected person is ill during air travel and has exposure to most likely a 747s worth of passengers over a 15 hour period.

I imagine she came from China through Vancouver/YVR and then to Edmonton in some manner.
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James Talbot, has said the woman had neurological symptoms that made doctors suspect she had encephalitis, or a brain infection.

My first movie reference was to Outbreak. But that quote has an element from Contagion with the encephalitis. /twilight zone music
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EDMONTON - The World Health Organization has confirmed that North America's first H5N1 patient was a woman in her late 20s.

One of the WHO's flu experts says the agency would like more information on her illness, because initial reports have suggested her symptoms were not entirely typical of H5N1 infections.

There have been no recent H5N1 outbreaks reported by China, but the timing of the woman's symptoms suggest she must have been infected there.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.ca]

I find it quite odd (like a lottery win) that this girl goes to China for a visit and contracts H5N1, mean while over a billion Chinese and millions of visitors to China have not contracted H5N1 in over a year.
 Quoting: Wash


Bird Flu and Swine Flu both originated in Canada.

They may have had worse outbreaks in China due to population density, but they are not the incubators of such disease.

Factory farming is where they usually start.
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I find it quite odd (like a lottery win) that this girl goes to China for a visit and contracts H5N1, mean while over a billion Chinese and millions of visitors to China have not contracted H5N1 in over a year.
 Quoting: Wash


Or odd like a movie where an infected person is ill during air travel and has exposure to most likely a 747s worth of passengers over a 15 hour period.

I imagine she came from China through Vancouver/YVR and then to Edmonton in some manner.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2890226


I would have to say the flight route sounds about right.

And yes, odd like that. However, no one else has had any symptoms (that we know of), anywhere. It is really weird.
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As usual Recombinomics.com is all over it.

[link to www.recombinomics.com]

[link to www.recombinomics.com]

[link to www.recombinomics.com]
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Patient zero.

Think about it though, I wonder if this avian flu would present differently in people from the West with zero exposure or immunities.

Like, they've had a certain number of confirmed cases over there in China, but I'm sure the number of people who actually became infected is much higher - like with the H1N1 or West Nile. I bet a lot of people are asymptomatic or have mild symptoms and build up an immunity. They are carriers and sharers but don't the worst of the symptoms.

So you'd imagine that a certain percentage of the Chinese/Asian population has some form of immunity to this thing.

Over here in the West, we have nothing - it's completely novel. So when it hit her, it took her out like smallpox on a Native American.
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EDMONTON - The World Health Organization has confirmed that North America's first H5N1 patient was a woman in her late 20s.

One of the WHO's flu experts says the agency would like more information on her illness, because initial reports have suggested her symptoms were not entirely typical of H5N1 infections.

There have been no recent H5N1 outbreaks reported by China, but the timing of the woman's symptoms suggest she must have been infected there.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.ca]

I find it quite odd (like a lottery win) that this girl goes to China for a visit and contracts H5N1, mean while over a billion Chinese and millions of visitors to China have not contracted H5N1 in over a year.
 Quoting: Wash


Bird Flu and Swine Flu both originated in Canada.

They may have had worse outbreaks in China due to population density, but they are not the incubators of such disease.

Factory farming is where they usually start.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52707979


If that's the case (and I'm not saying it is or it's not) then why have we not had any cases of bird flu up until now?
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Thanks for these links. Very interesting.
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Thanks for these links. Very interesting.
 Quoting: Wash


No problem. Should read the about page of the Dr. who's behind the site.
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There is something fishy about this.
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EDMONTON - The World Health Organization has confirmed that North America's first H5N1 patient was a woman in her late 20s.

One of the WHO's flu experts says the agency would like more information on her illness, because initial reports have suggested her symptoms were not entirely typical of H5N1 infections.

There have been no recent H5N1 outbreaks reported by China, but the timing of the woman's symptoms suggest she must have been infected there.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.ca]

I find it quite odd (like a lottery win) that this girl goes to China for a visit and contracts H5N1, mean while over a billion Chinese and millions of visitors to China have not contracted H5N1 in over a year.
 Quoting: Wash


Bird Flu and Swine Flu both originated in Canada.

They may have had worse outbreaks in China due to population density, but they are not the incubators of such disease.

Factory farming is where they usually start.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52707979


Just splitting hairs here but both the original virii are much older than recent outbreaks. Also, I remember the recent swine flu outbreak in 2009 coming from Mexico. Both Avian/Bird/H5N1 (and sars) were Asia.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2890226


Thanks for these links. Very interesting.
 Quoting: Wash


No problem. Should read the about page of the Dr. who's behind the site.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2890226


Will do, thanks.
I always enjoy soaking up more info.
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Re: Canadian H5N1 (bird flu) Victim's Symptoms Not Typical
EDMONTON - The World Health Organization has confirmed that North America's first H5N1 patient was a woman in her late 20s.

One of the WHO's flu experts says the agency would like more information on her illness, because initial reports have suggested her symptoms were not entirely typical of H5N1 infections.

There have been no recent H5N1 outbreaks reported by China, but the timing of the woman's symptoms suggest she must have been infected there.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.ca]

I find it quite odd (like a lottery win) that this girl goes to China for a visit and contracts H5N1, mean while over a billion Chinese and millions of visitors to China have not contracted H5N1 in over a year.
 Quoting: Wash


Bird Flu and Swine Flu both originated in Canada.

They may have had worse outbreaks in China due to population density, but they are not the incubators of such disease.

Factory farming is where they usually start.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52707979


If that's the case (and I'm not saying it is or it's not) then why have we not had any cases of bird flu up until now?
 Quoting: Wash


Because that would not fit his propaganda message.
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EDMONTON - The World Health Organization has confirmed that North America's first H5N1 patient was a woman in her late 20s.

One of the WHO's flu experts says the agency would like more information on her illness, because initial reports have suggested her symptoms were not entirely typical of H5N1 infections.

There have been no recent H5N1 outbreaks reported by China, but the timing of the woman's symptoms suggest she must have been infected there.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.ca]

I find it quite odd (like a lottery win) that this girl goes to China for a visit and contracts H5N1, mean while over a billion Chinese and millions of visitors to China have not contracted H5N1 in over a year.
 Quoting: Wash


Bird Flu and Swine Flu both originated in Canada.

They may have had worse outbreaks in China due to population density, but they are not the incubators of such disease.

Factory farming is where they usually start.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52707979


If that's the case (and I'm not saying it is or it's not) then why have we not had any cases of bird flu up until now?
 Quoting: Wash


Because that would not fit his propaganda message.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52127094


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