REAL vitamin C is NOT ascorbic acid!!!

Well, I have a news flash for all you Vitamin C "experts" (Definition of expert: A drip under pressure).

You cannot ingest enough vitamin C orally to cure anything.

We are supposed to be able to synthesize Vitamin C in our liver but lost the capability eons ago. There is a chain of 4 liver enzymes that convert Glucose to Vitamin C. Due to a genetic accident our liver cannot make the 4th enzyme in the chain. IF we could make our own C it would provide the first line of defense against anything attacking our body including cancer.

Ever wonder why animals like dogs, cats, goats..etc rarely get sick? It is because they make their own C. A goat can generate 100 grams of C in an hour. Ever wonder why a dog or cat can eat the most disgusting bacteria laden shit you can imagine and not get sick? The C they make kills it before it gets a chance to cause a problem.

Our immune system is overtaxed from the minute we are born because it is being called on to do things it was never intended to have to do. Vitamin C is supposed to be there in huge quantities to clean up things and the immune system polishes off the balance.

Liposomal c is the only oral way to achieve effective levels of C in the body other than IV sodium ascorbate which is the IV form of C.

Whatever instructions you read about how much liposomal C to take.. forget them.. it is not enough. You cannot overdose on it, drink it like water and drink a lot of water with it.

absolutely! Here is the method I use:

[link to www.quantumbalancing.com]

Thanks for this info op, reading this has been a real eye opener, and I have recently been researching getting some vitamin d and was looking into cod liver oil but after some research I found that you have to get high quality clo as most companies when they extract the oil through a heat process basically kills the enzymes or something like that, so a lot of these cod liver oil supplements people are putting in there body is just a waste of time, unless you buy top quality cod liver oil which goes through a cold extract process without any chemicals. And these ones are very expensive, was also considering krill oil but that's very expensive also, anyway thank you again op for your info and sorry if I have gone slightly off topic as your thread is referring to vitamin c, and will be looking forward to your thread about vitamin d
P.s am going to start growing my own wheatgrass tomorrow

5 stars op excellent thread

Interesting!

What ratios are used to substitute the raw powders -vs- the ascorbic acid for making the Liposomal Vitamin C?

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Thanks again Silvanus, you are definitely helping spread understanding of a complete naturally buffered compound -vs- an isolated synthetic single compound.

"OK, natural vs. synthetic. Let’s start with Vitamin C. Most sources equate vitamin C with ascorbic acid, as though they were the same thing. They’re not. Ascorbic acid is an isolate, a fraction, a distillate of naturally occurring vitamin C. In addition to ascorbic acid, vitamin C must include rutin, bioflavonoids, Factor K, Factor J, Factor P, Tyrosinase, Ascorbinogen, and other components as shown in the figure below:
_____________________A s c o r b i c A c i d______________
ascorbinogen
bioflavonoids
rutin
tyrosinase
Factor J
Factor K
Factor P
_____________________A s c o r b i c A c i d______________
V I T A M I N C
In addition, mineral co-factors must be available in proper amounts.
If any of these parts are missing, there is no vitamin C, no vitamin activity. When some of them are present, the body will draw on its own stores to make up the differences, so that the whole vitamin may be present. Only then will vitamin activity take place, provided that all other conditions and co-factors are present. Ascorbic acid is described merely as the “antioxidant wrapper” portion of vitamin C; ascorbic acid protects the functional parts of the vitamin from rapid oxidation or breakdown. (Somer p 58 “Vitamin C: A Lesson in Keeping An Open Mind” The Nutrition Report)
Over 90% of ascorbic acid in this country is manufactured at a facility in Nutley, New Jersey, owned by Hoffman-LaRoche, one of the world’s biggest drug manufacturers (1 800 526 0189). Here ascorbic acid is made from a process involving cornstarch and volatile acids. Most U.S. vitamin companies then buy the bulk ascorbic acid from this single facility. After that, marketing takes over. Each company makes its own labels, its own claims, and its own formulations, each one claiming to have the superior form of vitamin C, even though it all came from the same place, and it’s really not vitamin C at all.
FRACTIONATED = SYNTHETIC = CRYSTALLINE = FAKE"

[link to www.thedoctorwithin.com]

ascorbic acid also kills good bacteria in the body:

"Most people nowadays are well informed about the numerous health benefits of vitamin C, and find ways to incorporate it in their diets, either by taking supplements or eating more foods that contain the vitamin. While the many benefits of vitamin C are well-documented, such as its ability to boost the immune system, there are less well known facts about the synthetic version of vitamin C, or ascorbic acid. Ascorbic acid, the synthesized version of vitamin C, has been proven to kill bacteria effectively, which makes it effective in killing parasites and infections. Unfortunately, it does not differentiate between the good and bad bacteria in the gut, and wipes out good bacteria in the gut which is mandatory for vibrant health."

[link to www.naturalnews.com]

Ascorbic Acid (Synthetic Vitamin C) May Damage DNA:

[link to haydeninstitute.com]

REAL vitamin C comes from whole foods, or powders made from high vitamin C foods such as acerola cherry and camu camu berry:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I take 1-2 tbsp. pr day of Camu Camu since acerola cherry seems hard to find. HUGE difference since I found out about the truth of ascorbic acid and cut it out of my diet. No longer do I pee bright orange, I have had ZERO colds, flu's sore throats or really felt sick at all!

Nature knows best, plain and simple. Ascorbic acid sold as vitamin C is a hoax to make money and keep people sick.

threads already up, not just about vitamin D but it's also covered:

Thread: activator x, (vitamin K2) the missing link +how to heal your bones and teeth!!!

OP -
What if a person could only get ascorbic acid to use as vitamin C. Is the ascorbic acid BAD for us? Or does it do some good? Is it better than nothing?
Seems a lot of people have improved their health by taking a lot of ascorbic acid as vitamin C.

Interesting info, OP! A while back, I had some odd bruises that wouldn't go away. Stumped four doctors. I finally asked if it could be a low-level scurvy. They said it could be, taking extra C couldn't hurt. I took two pills with each meal for a month. Nothing happened. Switched to eating two servings of C rich produce with every meal, and they disappeared in short order.

So now that OP will make we switch up my routine what do you people do suggest for ingredients in a healthy morning shake to get my dose of real Vitamin C. From the Natural News article comment section:

I make a morning shake out of Kale, Parsley, Hemp Protein, 1 Kiwi, 1 Carrot, 2 celerystalks , 1/2 a granny smith apple, and 5 strawberries. From that one shake, I get 412% of the 'suggested' Vit. C intake. All natural.

Does that one make sense?

So now that OP will make we switch up my routine what do you people do suggest for ingredients in a healthy morning shake to get my dose of real Vitamin C. From the Natural News article comment section:

I make a morning shake out of Kale, Parsley, Hemp Protein, 1 Kiwi, 1 Carrot, 2 celerystalks , 1/2 a granny smith apple, and 5 strawberries. From that one shake, I get 412% of the 'suggested' Vit. C intake. All natural.

Does that one make sense?

sounds great!

My own personal shake recipe is:

1/2 cup liposomal camu camu, 2 oranges, 1 slice pineapple, 1 apple, 1 cup organic greek yogurt.

not sure on the exact RDI of vitamin C, but it's probably around 1800-2000%.

sounds great!

My own personal shake recipe is:

1/2 cup liposomal camu camu, 2 oranges, 1 slice pineapple, 1 apple, 1 cup organic greek yogurt.

not sure on the exact RDI of vitamin C, but it's probably around 1800-2000%.

Sorry op am quite New to this what is liposomal camu camu I was going to buy some organic camu camu powder will that be ok

[link to www.livonlabs.com]

I take camu camu powder and turn it into a liposomal using the following method:

[link to www.quantumbalancing.com]

I just do a 1-1 replacement of camu powder to vitamin C.

Basically it bypasses your stomach and is absorbed by your gut directly into your bloodstream. WAY higher absorption rate.

you will still benefit greatly from camu camu powder without turning it into a liposomal, your body just won't absorb as much of it. There are plenty of other benefits to camu camu besides vitamin C, they are listed in this thread.

Iv'e tried putting the powder into capsules and taking it that way with great results!

REAL vitamin C comes from whole foods, or powders made from high vitamin C foods such as acerola cherry and camu camu berry:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I take 1-2 tbsp. pr day of Camu Camu since acerola cherry seems hard to find. HUGE difference since I found out about the truth of ascorbic acid and cut it out of my diet. No longer do I pee bright orange, I have had ZERO colds, flu's sore throats or really felt sick at all!

Nature knows best, plain and simple. Ascorbic acid sold as vitamin C is a hoax to make money and keep people sick.

I've always found it interesting that "real" vitamins only come rare and exotic plants.

How about..I dunno..

Eat an orange.

I get so tired of this.

[link to www.livonlabs.com]

"OK, natural vs. synthetic. Let’s start with Vitamin C. Most sources equate vitamin C with ascorbic acid, as though they were the same thing. They’re not. Ascorbic acid is an isolate, a fraction, a distillate of naturally occurring vitamin C. In addition to ascorbic acid, vitamin C must include rutin, bioflavonoids, Factor K, Factor J, Factor P, Tyrosinase, Ascorbinogen, and other components as shown in the figure below:
_____________________A s c o r b i c A c i d______________
ascorbinogen
bioflavonoids
rutin
tyrosinase
Factor J
Factor K
Factor P
_____________________A s c o r b i c A c i d______________
V I T A M I N C
In addition, mineral co-factors must be available in proper amounts.
If any of these parts are missing, there is no vitamin C, no vitamin activity. When some of them are present, the body will draw on its own stores to make up the differences, so that the whole vitamin may be present. Only then will vitamin activity take place, provided that all other conditions and co-factors are present. Ascorbic acid is described merely as the “antioxidant wrapper” portion of vitamin C; ascorbic acid protects the functional parts of the vitamin from rapid oxidation or breakdown. (Somer p 58 “Vitamin C: A Lesson in Keeping An Open Mind” The Nutrition Report)
Over 90% of ascorbic acid in this country is manufactured at a facility in Nutley, New Jersey, owned by Hoffman-LaRoche, one of the world’s biggest drug manufacturers (1 800 526 0189). Here ascorbic acid is made from a process involving cornstarch and volatile acids. Most U.S. vitamin companies then buy the bulk ascorbic acid from this single facility. After that, marketing takes over. Each company makes its own labels, its own claims, and its own formulations, each one claiming to have the superior form of vitamin C, even though it all came from the same place, and it’s really not vitamin C at all.
FRACTIONATED = SYNTHETIC = CRYSTALLINE = FAKE"

[link to www.thedoctorwithin.com]

ascorbic acid also kills good bacteria in the body:

"Most people nowadays are well informed about the numerous health benefits of vitamin C, and find ways to incorporate it in their diets, either by taking supplements or eating more foods that contain the vitamin. While the many benefits of vitamin C are well-documented, such as its ability to boost the immune system, there are less well known facts about the synthetic version of vitamin C, or ascorbic acid. Ascorbic acid, the synthesized version of vitamin C, has been proven to kill bacteria effectively, which makes it effective in killing parasites and infections. Unfortunately, it does not differentiate between the good and bad bacteria in the gut, and wipes out good bacteria in the gut which is mandatory for vibrant health."

[link to www.naturalnews.com]

Ascorbic Acid (Synthetic Vitamin C) May Damage DNA:

[link to haydeninstitute.com]

REAL vitamin C comes from whole foods, or powders made from high vitamin C foods such as acerola cherry and camu camu berry:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I take 1-2 tbsp. pr day of Camu Camu since acerola cherry seems hard to find. HUGE difference since I found out about the truth of ascorbic acid and cut it out of my diet. No longer do I pee bright orange, I have had ZERO colds, flu's sore throats or really felt sick at all!

Nature knows best, plain and simple. Ascorbic acid sold as vitamin C is a hoax to make money and keep people sick.

THX a lot! Now how about rose hips? Some vitamin C powders or tablets made from rose hips. Itakes a tasty tea. Think Red Zinger Tea. So? What it the quality of C in it? I have some bushes I get some from. I could plant more if its a good source.