'God works in mysterious ways' doesn't work for me.

God is of life not death, the devil is the one who comes to steal, take life away.

How could you ever understand. It would be like asking your dog how a cars works.
He is the creator of all. How can you compair yourself to God?

Guess we will go in order.

Wages of sin is death. He did commit sin in his life(in your story), hence worthy of death. Regardless of conversion.
"wonderful God of love " did not force the man to die. God did not kill the man. Another man killed the man. Not God. God does not think like an mtv school girl about such matters. The 1st death is nothing. Not even a blip in the grand scheme. The 2nd death is the death of importance.

The murderer did not "go free". He will be held accountable when the time of judgement is come (the 2nd death)

The boy if He willingly transgressed (broke) the Law of God put into all of our consciences than the boy did deserve death (if at the age of accountability (you did not specify)

The mercy of God is in the 2nd death (the judgement)

No, He is exactly as the true church of Christ claims.

Loving, forgiving, long suffering, enduring.

Somebody had to say it.

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Emotions are a just another illusion. I know that is hard to accept (tell me about it) in a world that is a cornucopia of passion desire and lust, where our only reprieve from the existential reality shoved down our throats is a good shag, joint, dance party, video game - but that too was done on purpose.

You do no want to die as an emotional child, subject to whims of your passions and lusts because that makes you weak and fearful and attached to your body.
You are the opposite of prepared to deal with your disembodied self upon death and will accept the first shepard that arrives. Just another demigod getting his lunch on.

There is One who can shepard you for real though.

Just call his name, ask for Jesus Christ to come into your life. Be frank. Tell him you don't really believe in him, but you thought you'd take the old college try.

This is not a spell or anything, its a conversation, your intent is the most important thing, don't feel like you're talking to the principal. Respect yourself. If you are going to be humbled let it be genuine, its the antichrist that requires prostration and signs of obedience, the real Christ just wants you to be real. He trusts that when a human is real, he is good.

In direct retort to your question...saints are forged in the fires of hell, the reason they are saints and not soulfood is because they made it out.

If you accept that emotions are illusion (for the sake of this post at the very least), and you also accept that the moment of death determines your afterlife, then it would stand to reason that the important thing at the time of death is to realize the truth of your nature and your savior. Your emotions are illusion and they are of your body, they can become a virus to your spirit if not held in perspective by the truth of the Christ. Is there a difference between love of a woman and the love of god? One is emotional, the other is holy. One is a symptom, the other is the cause.

As you are dying and you see evil and you are barred from worldly salvation/rescue, as the boy in your OP, your menu of reaction has been conveniently chosen for you, that is if you are a sincere believer/realizer.

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That's like saying "Oh the government knows better, what could we possibly know? If they do this, then there must be a good reason for that, it can't be evil"

First of all... why do you blame God?
Secondly... "God works in mysterious ways" does not appear anywhere in the Bible.

What we have here, is yet another person who is ignorant of the Truth of God, His Word, and what Christianity is.

The truth of this world is that God, for His own purposes, is allowing sin to exist on this Earth. He allows Satan to have dominion over the world and to be the god (little 'g') of this world. Satan is on a leash, but he has been given great power over the earth and over us...

This is "The knowledge of good and evil" as mentioned in the Book of Genesis.

God has allowed Satan and sin to reign on the Earth, in the sight of all the Heavenly creation (angels, principalities, powers, et al.) in order for all to see (including mankind) the true nature of sin and the destructive power of sin.

One day (soon) God will put an end to Satan's rule and the reign of sin; and He will glorify those who remained faithful and give them eternal life in His kingdom after all sin has been done away with. However, we and all of the creation (known as the Heavenly Host) will forever remember what we learned in the short time that sin was allowed to run free.

We are special in the eyes of God because we were created for the very specific, and very special, purpose of God revealing to all creation what sin is and what sin does.

Do not blame God when a man sins... blame sin and the man's choice to love sin and reject his creator.

No it is nothing like that because the gov is not God. God is the creator of everything. The Gov is man made. Just like a church.

The god of religion is a vile demiurge intent on ruling by FEAR AND FALSE LOVE.

The scriptures of the religion expounds FALSE LIGHT AND FALSE LOVE. They may contain some utterances which resonates with Universal Truth which the agents of the demiurge cleverly twist and spin to hoodwink the sheeple.

All the scriptures detailing the glory of the son of god, the prophets ot god, the avatars, etc are utter codswallop and hogwash. Even the new age movement has been co opted to serve the demiurge's false love and false light.

Philippians 1:21-23

"For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain...having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better" (Philip. 1:21-23). In these words we see the entire substance of the apostle's life and what he looked to beyond this life. Everything that Paul did revolved around his Lord whom he served. He knew that his Lord promises salvation that cannot be hindered by death, but is only brought closer by it.


"Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life is not of the Father but is of the world. And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever" (1 John 2:15-17).

Awesome.

God cannot both work in mysterious ways and also not be the author of confusion. Mystery breeds confusion. So anytime a person says God works in mysterious ways, they're contradicting scripture.

As for me, I don't give a fuck because it's all charade anyway. God is just another creation of man. All religions are. But hey, it works for some people.

Your political leaders are ALL religious. You should figure out why

He's handy for keeping the kids good and scared. Go to bed little Timmy, or God will get you! Mwaaa ha ha ha ha!

Omnipotent Being -allows child rape despite being able to stop it. So does that mean that everyone who cheerleads for God advocates child rape. "It's part of the plan man!"

Lol. Just Lol.

What works for God is irrelevant to what works for you, ROFL.

many of them swear under holy book in inaguration
selling god name is easier for the fool while in fact their action worst than evil itself

Why did he deserve to die?
those men help him to meet god fast

Why did the murderer deserve to go free?
his sin of murder is his burden , none can escape from the law of god in last judgment those billion star on skies are god cctv upon us the worst creator

If I knew, I would be guru

My question to you OP is why do you care what other people believe. A christian who talks about his faith is trying to share the good news (right or worng he may be) they offer you the kingdom of God. What are you offering? what is your agenda in trying to convince people?

At what point did I compare myself to God?
I'm asking questions because I want to understand a different point of view.
I just want to know how your mind works and I want to see how a religious person responds to being questioned.
I honestly expected a large amount of slander and name calling but so far it's been fiarly civilized and respectable. IMO

then i will show you the real guru whose shoes i am not worthy to bear

Embrace your weaknesses; that embrace turns them into strengths. Then you have no weakness. Then you are impervious.

Put it up, show me a disciple

Because this:
Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

our righteousness is like filthy rags.
You never knew his secret sins, God does, still if they man was saved then there's no problem is there?

Php 1:21 ¶ For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
Php 1:22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.
Php 1:23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:
Php 1:24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you.

it is better for him to be with Christ than to be here.

Also you keep forgetting this world system is owned and controlled by the devil:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

and you forget another thing:
Romans 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Romans 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.


And about the boy, obviously the child was saved and then he dies and voila, he's with Christ.
So he suffered a few minutes because of wicked men and their father the devil, the child is saved and ok.

So stop whining and go spread the good news:
[link to biblebelievers.com]

Have you ever washed the feet of someone you don't know?

So, you seem to be all into this God cult stuff. Can you tell me why this God guy allows child rape to happen?

Clearly no one knows what happens when you die.

However one thing is certain...

The creator does not care about individual human life.

He/she/it may very well care about life in general, but he/she/it absolutely does not care for individual life.

I say "the creator" because science has proven a thousand times over that things (life) absolutely could not have happened on accident. (too many variables)

Also I say that "the creator" does not care about individual life because children get raped, abused, and murdered everyday in every country on every continent every single day.

So all although there may very well be a god...

He/she/it should be thought of as a creator and nothing more.

And there just cant be anyone that is so evil that they would honestly be able to say or think that children are raped and murdered as part of "gods plan."

It is simply just misunderstood information.