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I still wonder why the Poles are in the NATO...Obama spits on the Poles, Catholics and the Pope. Not to mention on anyone else.
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They don't really care about the poles or religion.
All they care about is more ground, closer and closer to Russia's borders. Where they can place their anti-missile systems, etc.
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Poroshenko orders army reinforcements to key cities (Mariupol, Berdyansk, Kharkiv and the north of Luhansk region) in case of RU offensive.
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#Putin: Russia is able to defend its national interests [link to en.ria.ru]
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Poroshenko says that Ukraine is ready to set a new date for local elections for occupied territories (not Crimea). Thoughtful diplomacy.
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I think Putin is near a breaking point, rejected, and emotional. And if his alleged failing health is true... well, in his mind he might not have anything to lose. And boom.
 Quoting: The Årtist


Will those under him follow suit and push the red buttons? I am well aware of the political power Putin wields, but i'd wager few are willing to reduce the world to ashes because one individual tells them to. Even when they hate the USA's or the western worlds' guts.

I know, i know. Hitler. But the differences between WW2 and WW3 are worlds apart and everyone knows it. No major confrontation between west and east goes without a thermalnuclear war, the cold war may have "ended" (personlly i don't agree) but MAD still exists.
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It really depends if he can whip up a frenzy with his own leadership I would imagine. If he can convince his leadership and military that he's right and just, then possibly.

Yes, MAD does still exist. I kind of hinted at that with the idea of someone who's completely emotional, angry, desperate, and losing health might simply just let er rip and damned the consequences. Nuke everything knowing there'd be a response. Never underestimate someone who may be willing to burn the whole world before they go down solo. If it got to a point where where a power like Russia or the USA was beginning to be treated like and suffering like N. Korean people and it was going to be bleak forever because the "enemy" country was doing it... You have two options, completely cave to the other side or fight back.

It's easy to say that Russia should consider the options offered to it by the West because from our point of view it's the right thing. But realize that what we're asking / demanding of Russia and it's people / leadership would be equivalent to the US caving to Russia. Are you ready to completely give into Russia ideology, demands, way of life, international policy, form of governance? Are you willing to capitulate and abandon your negative thoughts about Russia and abide with what they say? Because that's what we're doing to them. Right or wrong it doesn't matter. It's only "right" because it's how we view the world. In the end we are demanding Russia to bend to our will, to accept our unconditional terms and to allow us to continue doing whatever it is we do. We wouldn't accept it if those tables were turned, why should we expect them to? Just because Putin isn't doing what we tell him to do doesn't necessarily make him evil or even bad. He's simply opposite of our paradigm. Each country is going to look out for their own national interests and doing anything less you make them poor leaders. Both sides have legitimate claims and both sides have ridiculous claims and expectations. For the US to continue to survive it cannot allow another super power to emerge to compete with it's global dominance.

I don't know about you, but I rather enjoy my cushy life here in the States. I like being able to go to a grocery store jam packed with whatever I want to eat. I like our internet, video games, coffee shops, ability to fill up the tank and drive around. I'd rather not see that go away. So I kind of support the US in terms of messing up the plans of others that would try to disrupt our potentially great lifestyle here. If that means isolating Russia, fine, I'm ok with it personally. BUT, I do not try and fool myself thinking we're not actively disrupting things and causing chaos and enemies around the world.

I think if Putin can convince his people he's right and whip up a fervor he might convince them to go to war and to fire first.

However, Russia likes to play games and would much rather be in a position to have an even they can point to to give a military action what they view as international legitimacy.
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Cold War in the early 1990s and the last 13 years, the American era with a "war on terror" has allowed US nuclear bases prioritized down. The trend worries more and more in the US as a lack of maintenance and declining morale among employees can have disastrous consequences for the whole world.
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Givi said that Lviv is minimum. I hope he meant that they will go for Poland, Slovakia, Czech republic, Hungary, Romania, Belorussia.
Those countries need to be liberated. Don't think that if you don't have a maydan yet, that there are no russians in this country and that there are no fascists to be cleaned.
Stopping at Lviv would be like stopping before Poland without reaching Berling at WW2 which means suicide.
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Very big dellusion about Poland.
Polish people all hate russians... they may not show it, but Russia did a lot of bad things to poles in the past.
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Only a small minority of ethnic Poles hate ethnic Russians.

In fact far more ethnic Poles hate Germans, Ukrainians, and also increasingly the Westerners.


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You are delusional yourself for writing such nonsense.
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There's a story told to me as an answer on my comment in some blog some time ago:

'I've been to Poland for a business trip. The first Pole among uninvolved with the visit purpose (19-year-old bartender at the hotel) asked me, "Where are you from?" Not relying on his knowledge of the Chelyabinsk, I answered "Yekaterinburg". He immediately responded:
"I know the city! You killed our tzar there!"
"What? Your?"
"We had a common tzar, ours too - but you've killed him!"
And then reprimanded me for half an hour - "What did you Russians do, what a country you destroyed, etc., etc." I was very shocked.
'

Well, Russian Emperors had a title of "Tzars of Poland" for more than a century actually... Not a very known fact though.

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go back to pulling info and stop w/ the bullshit opinion pieces. u ain't selling shit
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the ruskies bastards shills are doing exactly this, selling shit for 11.80 rub. for a comment
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Not made a penny you EU apologist, why are you so surprised so many Europeans are anti NATO/EU F****** NWO..does not make us Russian shills, F*** fighting for this Corrupt Gov and the Parasite Royals
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I remember Serbia declaring war on America in 99.
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Heh, you have bad memory. Last time Serbia officially declared war on someone was in 1914 (Specifically Germany and the Ottoman Empire).
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Givi said that Lviv is minimum. I hope he meant that they will go for Poland, Slovakia, Czech republic, Hungary, Romania, Belorussia.
Those countries need to be liberated. Don't think that if you don't have a maydan yet, that there are no russians in this country and that there are no fascists to be cleaned.
Stopping at Lviv would be like stopping before Poland without reaching Berling at WW2 which means suicide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62600980


Very big dellusion about Poland.
Polish people all hate russians... they may not show it, but Russia did a lot of bad things to poles in the past.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61258993



Only a small minority of ethnic Poles hate ethnic Russians.

In fact far more ethnic Poles hate Germans, Ukrainians, and also increasingly the Westerners.


[link to michalw.narod.ru]


You are delusional yourself for writing such nonsense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64391578


There's a story told to me as an answer on my comment in some blog some time ago:

'I've been to Poland for a business trip. The first Pole among uninvolved with the visit purpose (19-year-old bartender at the hotel) asked me, "Where are you from?" Not relying on his knowledge of the Chelyabinsk, I answered "Yekaterinburg". He immediately responded:
"I know the city! You killed our tzar there!"
"What? Your?"
"We had a common tzar, ours too - but you've killed him!"
And then reprimanded me for half an hour - "What did you Russians do, what a country you destroyed, etc., etc." I was very shocked.
'

Well, Russian Emperors had a title of "Tzars of Poland" for more than a century actually... Not a very known fact though.
 Quoting: Tamonten


Yep. Only Russian Monarchy with God's Blessing can unite disintegrated Slavs world. That's why Tsar is Archenemy of all khazaric satanic scum who took over Russia after 1917, and who would like to divide and conquer.
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go back to pulling info and stop w/ the bullshit opinion pieces. u ain't selling shit
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the ruskies bastards shills are doing exactly this, selling shit for 11.80 rub. for a comment
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Not made a penny you EU apologist, why are you so surprised so many Europeans are anti NATO/EU F****** NWO..does not make us Russian shills, F*** fighting for this Corrupt Gov and the Parasite Royals
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They are just losers, spiritual prostitutes. Do not pay attention to their whining. Dogs bark while caravan follows its path. chuckle
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Cossaick unit firing on ATO positions with their artillery:


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go back to pulling info and stop w/ the bullshit opinion pieces. u ain't selling shit
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the ruskies bastards shills are doing exactly this, selling shit for 11.80 rub. for a comment
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Not made a penny you EU apologist, why are you so surprised so many Europeans are anti NATO/EU F****** NWO..does not make us Russian shills, F*** fighting for this Corrupt Gov and the Parasite Royals
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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It'll be interesting to see if Russia can maintain its territorial integrity after the economy collapses. I doubt it.
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Poroshenko trying to appear like a leader... We all know what happened after that statement that the ATO would end this conflict in mere weeks or shorter.
Anything that comes out of his mouth you can just shrug off.
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Hours, not months - were his (translated) words the day after his election.
As his lawyers would point out he never said how many hours. Presently something over 4000 and counting.
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It'll be interesting to see if Russia can maintain its territorial integrity after the economy collapses. I doubt it.
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It did several times already...in one case it actually expanded.
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It'll be interesting to see if Russia can maintain its territorial integrity after the economy collapses. I doubt it.
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It did several times already...in one case it actually expanded.
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I remember Serbia declaring war on America in 99.
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chuckle and they did it proudly..as allways
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Russia is heading towards North Korea status




- the ruble is collapsing hard and in freefall nosedive and this will continue indefinitely,

- the Kremlin is growing more authoritarian rapidly by the day,

- rights and freedoms are being taken away at a record pace,

- the police state that already had the highest # of police per people of any nation is growing,

- a state of severe xenophobia is being cultivated by the Kremlin and it's controlled media,

- the Kremlin is growing militant rapidly by the day and cultivating a strong militancy among the people,

- and the Kremlin is isolating the country from external forces that threaten the rule of the oligarchs.




All of this will become extremely severe as the oligarchs try to save themselves and their corrupt bribery pyramid system that they thrive from.

Russia and Russians are heading towards North Korean status, governmentally, economically, and socially. This is all because of the desire of a little more than 100 elite Russian oligarchs who would rather try to maintain as much oligarch status, money, power as possible while the country falls into isolation, despair, and ruin... Instead of giving in, doing the right thing and ending the corrupt, greedy mafia kleptocracy that rules Russia(and was* also ruling Ukraine) and steals from the Russian people to maintain its power.

It is irrational for the people of Russia to sit back and allow this to happen, but that is exactly what they are doing.

Russians, please study North Korea very well because your future is identical to that unless you take concerted action against the oligarchs and reform your country. Even Rogozin tried to prove how lovely and ideal a country North Korea is.


[In before a Russian tells me that 'no but Putin is fighting the oligarchs' when in reality he is the richest oligarch on the planet and surrounds himself with oligarchs. and this is exactly why Russia is heading towards North Korean status, because the people are falling for a massive web of lies that is being used against them.]


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Ukraine has been and remains a firm supporter of peace.

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LOL! Joke of the century. Pure unadulterated bullsh*t and demagoguery by Petro Porosenok.
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It's all too late for Porky, he is about to be roasted by Putin, an experienced KGB colonel against an overweight chocolate factory owner, guess who wins? Not Willy Wonka for sure.
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#BREAKING Ukraine committed to peace plan: Poroshenko

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Now this is an even bigger joke. Man! This Svinka Petro is a good joker...
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