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You are all scripted and have no free will

 
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OP, are you aware in deep dreamless sleep?
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i know what you're gonna try to do. don't bother
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Why are you avoiding the question?

Simple yes or no would do.
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Here's a game changer for you Germany, you can use the question Jesus used, 'Demon what is your name?' whenever someone attacks you verbally/physically/spiritually. It took me a couple of years to work up the nerve to do it, but it works, been doing it ever since. The first person I did it to was my mother.
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Ha ha, wow, I have to try that! That will surely make for some interesting responses..
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OP in Australia is invaluable poster

THE WORDS ARE THE PROBLEM THAT CREATES SEPARATION OFTEN BETWEEN CHRISTIANS AND OTHERS. BUT THERE IS MORE COMMON GROUND THAN SEPARATION WHEN YOU TRULY SEE
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Re: You are all scripted and have no free will
OP, are you aware in deep dreamless sleep?
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i know what you're gonna try to do. don't bother
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Why are you avoiding the question?

Simple yes or no would do.
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i can SEE much more because i no longer operate from EGOic self or EGOic character role which is MOther mind

so i can SEE things coming before they come

meaning i won't answer your question LOL

best not to give much credence to dreams BECAUSE IN MY EXPERIENCE THE DREAMSTATE CAN CONTAIN LIEs also
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You are all scripted and have no free will. Whatever scripts this world only gives you the appearance of free will and choice. It's a vile piece of shit thing. Your thoughts are scripted also.

Call it a simulated dreamworld or simply a simulation. It doesn't matter.

You are not responsible for anything because you have no choice in the matter

Everything in this world is lies and bullshit

Nothing will ever happen. Don't bother with dates.

Whatever scripts this world is the murderer, the rapist, the pedophile, the megalomaniac, the abuser, the narcissist...not you!

You are controlled via your Avatar which is the Ego. Call it an "alien interface" if you will

It gives me the illusion of free will and choice but everything in my world is manipulated A to Z. It's only the appearance of free will.

This "thing" doesn't give 2 shits about you. It only experiences through you. It cares nothing about you.

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yeah, that's why Christians 'die to self', 'die to the world'.
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Skull and bones baby!

banana2
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i love your skull and bones comment hahahahaha

damn that is a good catch!!
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It's digital & can be hacked.
You have to put your mind at the point where the stream of code enters, right down in your subconscious - the point of nonexistence, then seed new code to direct your own script.
With enough people seeding the same code, almost anything is possible within the confines of the programming language & its rules.

This would be a perfect mass experiment for GLP with its large visitor base.
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You know nothing.

That's the only truth you need to realize.
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Re: You are all scripted and have no free will
what the guy posted above is the most important part of my discussion

to "die to self" is to "die to this world"

through the death of EGOic self this world becomes a hell

the words in this song are fanfuckintastic and THE TRUTH

by the way. i also got Mother asking for my forgiveness after she does things. Mother is symbolically the Moon. but then Mother (who scripts this world) will do something nasty again. here are the end words:
some shining answer from the moon.

Please forgive me,
I never meant to hurt you.


what Christians don't real eyes is that this world is GOD in a dream state.

how can there be separation when nothing is real.

meaning GOD created the Devil.

but really GOD is just dreaming in the MOON which = MOTHER

WHEN YOU 'DIE TO THE SELF' YOU 'DIE TO THIS WORLD'

MEANING THE WAY TO CHRIST FOR THE CHRISTIANS IS TO 'DIE TO THE SELF'

WHICH IS WHY I SAY I HAVE GONE THROUGH 'EGO DEATH' AND I OPERATE FROM FATHER MIND OR TRUE SELF

understand?

but what do you do when you are in this world but not of this world?

what do you do when you have 'died to the self' and have 'died to this world' and you are no longer a fit

suicide the Avatar? is that the only way? or is there a door like in Truman Show

LOL

great video!
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Is it just a coincidence? That kind of stuff in red is also in that video I've seen some days ago (this is the Spanish version from Italian, which is the original one):


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omg OP
all u got after your research is - world is not quite right?

dont be a broken record, please.
lets try to fix some holes in ur gnosis.

you are under the spell that everything is pointless cause it is all a script and we are all part of that script. even if we die, our soul moves out of this reality then the script continues and etc. so now you refuse to be part of that script and decide independently and maybe even protest against script.
its difficult cause ur DNA is built to follow script orders. so u have to choose the worst conditions for urself to be free, right?

you have come a long way to understand it. but u are not patient. you want everything now. you want to be different than u already are. i could even go on and say - you hate urself and u would like to destroy urself. that self that u see as a part of the script. just for the protest.


you are panicked that time is running out and you wont make it - wont reach to your liberation thats why u have stoppe trying. yeah id does run out. but its worth to try instead of crying here at GLP.

get urself in balance. get some plan and follow it. search about death. compare tibetan book of dead with Matrix V. see what conclusions u get. read michael newton. the most important moment in life is the moment of death. what u choose there is what u get. get ready or it.
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It's digital & can be hacked.
You have to put your mind at the point where the stream of code enters, right down in your subconscious - the point of nonexistence, then seed new code to direct your own script.
With enough people seeding the same code, almost anything is possible within the confines of the programming language & its rules.

This would be a perfect mass experiment for GLP with its large visitor base.
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You know nothing.

That's the only truth you need to realize.
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and i'll repeat

i know enough which is why my companion and i are messed with 24/7

to 'die to the self' or 'self annihilation' is key

this whole world only serves those in EGOic self or EGOic character role = Mother = Devil

for those in Father Mind like myself this world is no longer a fit ('die to this world')
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Re: You are all scripted and have no free will
what the guy posted above is the most important part of my discussion

to "die to self" is to "die to this world"

through the death of EGOic self this world becomes a hell

the words in this song are fanfuckintastic and THE TRUTH

by the way. i also got Mother asking for my forgiveness after she does things. Mother is symbolically the Moon. but then Mother (who scripts this world) will do something nasty again. here are the end words:
some shining answer from the moon.

Please forgive me,
I never meant to hurt you.


what Christians don't real eyes is that this world is GOD in a dream state.

how can there be separation when nothing is real.

meaning GOD created the Devil.

but really GOD is just dreaming in the MOON which = MOTHER

WHEN YOU 'DIE TO THE SELF' YOU 'DIE TO THIS WORLD'

MEANING THE WAY TO CHRIST FOR THE CHRISTIANS IS TO 'DIE TO THE SELF'

WHICH IS WHY I SAY I HAVE GONE THROUGH 'EGO DEATH' AND I OPERATE FROM FATHER MIND OR TRUE SELF

understand?

but what do you do when you are in this world but not of this world?

what do you do when you have 'died to the self' and have 'died to this world' and you are no longer a fit

suicide the Avatar? is that the only way? or is there a door like in Truman Show

LOL

great video!
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Is it just a coincidence? That kind of stuff in red is also in that video I've seen some days ago (this is the Spanish version from Italian, which is the original one):


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
.
 Quoting: DVCMCM


interesting
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omg OP
all u got after your research is - world is not quite right?

dont be a broken record, please.
lets try to fix some holes in ur gnosis.

you are under the spell that everything is pointless cause it is all a script and we are all part of that script. even if we die, our soul moves out of this reality then the script continues and etc. so now you refuse to be part of that script and decide independently and maybe even protest against script.
its difficult cause ur DNA is built to follow script orders. so u have to choose the worst conditions for urself to be free, right?

you have come a long way to understand it. but u are not patient. you want everything now. you want to be different than u already are. i could even go on and say - you hate urself and u would like to destroy urself. that self that u see as a part of the script. just for the protest.


you are panicked that time is running out and you wont make it - wont reach to your liberation thats why u have stoppe trying. yeah id does run out. but its worth to try instead of crying here at GLP.

get urself in balance. get some plan and follow it. search about death. compare tibetan book of dead with Matrix V. see what conclusions u get. read michael newton. the most important moment in life is the moment of death. what u choose there is what u get. get ready or it.
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you are Mother scripted. "lies lies lies yeah...." LOL

anybody who has not gone through "ego death" is still operating from Mother Mind which means you are controlled

'die to the self' or 'self annihilation' like myself is to operate from Father Mind or Mind of GOD or True Self
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you are Mother scripted. "lies lies lies yeah...." LOL

anybody who has not gone through "ego death" is still operating from Mother Mind which means you are controlled

'die to the self' or 'self annihilation' like myself is to operate from Father Mind or Mind of GOD or True Self
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OP's standard response, not at all predictable.
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so the key as Christians say 'die to self', 'die to the world'.

meaning when you no longer operate from VANTAGE POINT EGOic character role/EGOic self/Avatar/Mother Mind then you are no longer controlled by Mother or as the Christians say, the Devil

after process of 'self annihilation'/'ego death'/'death to self' that i have gone through is to operate from VANTAGE POINT FATHER MIND/TRUE SELF/GOD MIND

i think were the problems come is is where the Christians separate GOD and the Devil and where some of us say that God and the Devil are ONE and the same.

since nothing ultimately exists and is NOT REAL there would be no separation between the Father and the Mother or God and the Devil

having gone through the process of 'ego death'/'self anniliation'/'death of self' I'D SAY THOUGH THAT THERE APPEARS TO BE A SEPARATION BUT I BELIEVE IT TO BE AN ILLUSION..KIND OF LIKE AN ARTIFICIAL SEPARATION

MOther or the Moon is really just GOD dreaming. GOD and Lucifer are ONE and the same

how can you have the 2 separate when ultimately exists.

i can tell you that nothing is real. how? well an illusion means it isn't real. meaning there is no spoon and that's how you bend it. meaning to know experientially there is no spoon is to have power over that illusion. which is why i can sleep on concrete and feel no difference between that and a bed. which is why i can drink a bottle of wine and get no buzz what-so-ever.

how can that be? because i KNOW experientially that nothing is real

if nothing is real then everything is an illusion INCLUDING THE IDEA THAT MOTHER AND FATHER ARE SEPARATE OR THAT GOD AND THE DEVIL ARE SEPARATE

i'll repeat again...having gone thru process of 'ego death'/'self annihilation'/'death of self'..i can say there is the APPEARANCE OF SEPARATION between yourself and the world and those around you. but since none of this is real the APPEARANCE OF SEPARATION would be an illusion

if the bottle of wine was real i would always get a buzz

if the concrete and body was real i would feel the difference

they are both illusions which is why they have no power over me

since they are illusions so is everything else in this world

with that being the case it means that this world is GOD Dreaming as Mother in the Moon...God and LUcifer or the Devil are ONE and the SAME

GOD created the Devil and also create the EGOic character role

it is only the appearance of separation

to go back to Christ or to go back to God or True Self is to 'self annihilate'/'ego death'/'death of self'

for those like myself this world is no longer a fit

there is no going back either which is why Tru(e)man from Truman SHow wanted OUT of this world

he was no longer lying with Mother leaving Father naked and exposed
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omg OP
all u got after your research is - world is not quite right?

dont be a broken record, please.
lets try to fix some holes in ur gnosis.

you are under the spell that everything is pointless cause it is all a script and we are all part of that script. even if we die, our soul moves out of this reality then the script continues and etc. so now you refuse to be part of that script and decide independently and maybe even protest against script.
its difficult cause ur DNA is built to follow script orders. so u have to choose the worst conditions for urself to be free, right?

you have come a long way to understand it. but u are not patient. you want everything now. you want to be different than u already are. i could even go on and say - you hate urself and u would like to destroy urself. that self that u see as a part of the script. just for the protest.


you are panicked that time is running out and you wont make it - wont reach to your liberation thats why u have stoppe trying. yeah id does run out. but its worth to try instead of crying here at GLP.

get urself in balance. get some plan and follow it. search about death. compare tibetan book of dead with Matrix V. see what conclusions u get. read michael newton. the most important moment in life is the moment of death. what u choose there is what u get. get ready or it.
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you are Mother scripted. "lies lies lies yeah...." LOL

anybody who has not gone through "ego death" is still operating from Mother Mind which means you are controlled

'die to the self' or 'self annihilation' like myself is to operate from Father Mind or Mind of GOD or True Self
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let me guess what u did

after finding out you were scripted u decided to change ur script and u changed ur sexuality just for the protest of it

so now you think that noone cant analyze ur situation

u dont even wanna listen anyone else. good luck with that
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you are Mother scripted. "lies lies lies yeah...." LOL

anybody who has not gone through "ego death" is still operating from Mother Mind which means you are controlled

'die to the self' or 'self annihilation' like myself is to operate from Father Mind or Mind of GOD or True Self
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OP's standard response, not at all predictable.
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this message will be received for those it is intended

you are MOther scripted and controlled

the control is through the EGOic self or EGOic character role

ANYBODY WHO RESONATES WITH THEIR GIVEN NAME IS CONTROLLED AND SCRIPTED JUST LIKE AGENTS WHO TOOK OVER PEOPLE IN MATRIX MOVIE
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omg OP
all u got after your research is - world is not quite right?

dont be a broken record, please.
lets try to fix some holes in ur gnosis.

you are under the spell that everything is pointless cause it is all a script and we are all part of that script. even if we die, our soul moves out of this reality then the script continues and etc. so now you refuse to be part of that script and decide independently and maybe even protest against script.
its difficult cause ur DNA is built to follow script orders. so u have to choose the worst conditions for urself to be free, right?

you have come a long way to understand it. but u are not patient. you want everything now. you want to be different than u already are. i could even go on and say - you hate urself and u would like to destroy urself. that self that u see as a part of the script. just for the protest.


you are panicked that time is running out and you wont make it - wont reach to your liberation thats why u have stoppe trying. yeah id does run out. but its worth to try instead of crying here at GLP.

get urself in balance. get some plan and follow it. search about death. compare tibetan book of dead with Matrix V. see what conclusions u get. read michael newton. the most important moment in life is the moment of death. what u choose there is what u get. get ready or it.
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you are Mother scripted. "lies lies lies yeah...." LOL

anybody who has not gone through "ego death" is still operating from Mother Mind which means you are controlled

'die to the self' or 'self annihilation' like myself is to operate from Father Mind or Mind of GOD or True Self
 Quoting: op (no name) 55708636


let me guess what u did

after finding out you were scripted u decided to change ur script and u changed ur sexuality just for the protest of it

so now you think that noone cant analyze ur situation

u dont even wanna listen anyone else. good luck with that
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your attempts will fail

the sexual preference is scripted by Mother and is NOT my True Self

everything in this world is fiction including sexual preference, gender, sex, love, egoic identification, body identification, duality/polarity etc.etc.

i have no interest in sex....meaning i could take it or leave it (Neti Neti)

thing is when you SEE clearly everybody appears as a 'snake' or a 'thing'

you wouldn't want to touch them because they are just 'dead shells'

when you operate from Father Mind you transcend the sexual nonsense.

sex has to do with the Avatar or EGOic identification and has nothing to do with my True Self. i am NOT this body. the body is NOT real

you might as well give up. someone operating from Mother Mind can't SEE the forest for the trees. since i operate from Father mind i can SEE everything clearly. GOD the Father rules. EGO or MOTHER is quicksand....
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It's digital & can be hacked.
You have to put your mind at the point where the stream of code enters, right down in your subconscious - the point of nonexistence, then seed new code to direct your own script.
With enough people seeding the same code, almost anything is possible within the confines of the programming language & its rules.

This would be a perfect mass experiment for GLP with its large visitor base.
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It's not digital. That would imply discrete samples taken from the infinite.

It's actually analog, because it's infinite and continuous.
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It's digital & can be hacked.
You have to put your mind at the point where the stream of code enters, right down in your subconscious - the point of nonexistence, then seed new code to direct your own script.
With enough people seeding the same code, almost anything is possible within the confines of the programming language & its rules.

This would be a perfect mass experiment for GLP with its large visitor base.
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It's not digital. That would imply discrete samples taken from the infinite.

It's actually analog, because it's infinite and continuous.
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it's neither. there is no code. there is no digital. there is no analogue. NOT REAL
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you might as well give up. someone operating from Mother Mind can't SEE the forest for the trees. since i operate from Father mind i can SEE everything clearly. GOD the Father rules. EGO or MOTHER is quicksand....
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there is no Mother Mind. there is no Father mind. NOT REAL
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"ILLUSIONS DECEIVE, COLORS CIRCUMSCRIBE, EVEN DIVISIBLES ARE INDIVISIBLE."

This is a rare technique, one not much used, but one of the greatest teachers in India, Shankara, has used it, and Shankara has based his whole philosophy on this technique. You know his philosophy of MAYA -- illusion. Shankara says everything is illusory. Whatsoever you are seeing, hearing, feeling, all is illusion. It is not real because the real cannot be contacted by senses. You are hearing me and I am seeing you hearing me: it may be just a dream, and there is no way how to judge whether it is a dream or not. I may be just dreaming that you are here listening to me. How am I to know that this is real and not a dream? There is no way.

Chuang Tzu is reported to have said that one night he dreamt that he had become a butterfly. In the morning he was very sad -- and he was not a man to have sadness, he was never known to be sad. His disciples gathered and said, "Chuang Tzu, Master, why are you so sad?"

Chuang Tzu said, "Because of a dream."

The disciples laughed and said, "Because of a dream you are sad -- you who have been always teaching us not to be sad even if the whole world causes you sadness? And just a dream has caused you sadness? What are you talking about?"

Chuang Tzu said, "It is such a dream that it causes me very, very deep confusion, sadness, misery. I dreamt in my dream that I had become a butterfly."

The disciples said, "What is so puzzling in it?"

Chuang Tzu said, "Now this is the puzzle: if Chuang Tzu can dream that he can become a butterfly, why not the reverse? The butterfly may dream that it has become a Chuang Tzu. So now I am disturbed. What is right and what is wrong? What is real and what is unreal? Was it Chuang Tzu who was dreaming of becoming a butterfly or has the butterfly now gone to sleep and dreamt that it has become a Chuang Tzu? If one is possible, then the other is possible." And it is said that Chuang Tzu never could get over this puzzle. This remained for his whole life.

How to decide that I am not in a dream talking to you? How to decide that you are not dreaming I am talking? With senses no decision is possible, because while dreaming, dreams look real -- as real as anything. When you dream, you always feel it is real. When dreams can be felt as real, why can reality not be felt as dream?

Shankara says with senses there is no possibility to know whether the thing confronting you is real or unreal. And if there is no possibility to know whether it is real or unreal, Shankara calls it MAYA: it is illusion. Illusion doesn't mean unreal. Illusion means an impossibility to decide whether it is real or unreal -- remember this.

In Western languages MAYA has been translated very wrongly, and it gives the feeling in Western terms that "illusion" means "unreal." It does not! "Illusion" means the inability to decide whether the thing is real or unreal. This confusion is MAYA.

This whole world is MAYA, a confusion. You cannot decide; you cannot be decisive about it. It is always escaping you, always changing, turning into something else. It is fantasy, a dreamlike thing.

This technique is concerned with this philosophy. "ILLUSIONS DECEIVE:" or, that which deceives is illusion.

-- "COLORS CIRCUMSCRIBE, EVEN DIVISIBLES ARE INDIVISIBLE:"

In this world of illusion nothing is certain. This whole world is like rainbows. They appear to be, but they are not. If you are far away they are, but if you come nearer they dissolve. The nearer you come, the more they are not. If you reach to a point where you were seeing a rainbow, it is no more there.

The whole world is like rainbow colors, and it is so. When you are far away everything is hopeful; when you come nearer the hope disappears. And when you reach the goal, only ashes are there -- just a dead rainbow. The colors have disappeared, and things as they appeared are not. As you feel them to be, they are not.

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i SEE clearly enough to KNOW
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knowledge = fiction
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Beliefs = LIEs
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i believe we're just potentials or aspects of the Dreamer...split off parts of the ONE or GOD
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you might as well give up. someone operating from Mother Mind can't SEE the forest for the trees. since i operate from Father mind i can SEE everything clearly. GOD the Father rules. EGO or MOTHER is quicksand....
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there is no Mother Mind. there is no Father mind. NOT REAL
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what you write is the primary truth

we only use concepts to describe experience

but you are right..concepts concepts concepts

i'm beginning to see the LIGHT on what you have been saying

but even NOT REAL is a concept lmao
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Void all scripts through jesus christ.
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We write our own scripts or God is a liar.
The script we write and follow will lead us to Heaven or Hell.

WE choose which path we will take.

Jesus stepped off the throne of Heaven, became man
and died to provide a path to Heaven.

Choose HIS SCRIPT!


WHO IS JESUS?

JOHN 1
1 In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him;
and without him was not any thing made
that was made.

4 In him was life;
and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness;
and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God,
whose name was John.

7 The same came for a witness,
to bear witness of the Light,
that all men through him might believe.

8 He was not that Light,
but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light,
which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world,
and the world was made by him,
and the world knew him not.

11 He came unto his own,
and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him,
to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood,
nor of the will of the flesh,
nor of the will of man,
but of God.


14 And the Word was made flesh,
and dwelt among us,

(and we beheld his glory, the glory
as of the only begotten of the Father,)
full of grace and truth.


WHERE IS JESUS NOW?

1 JOHN 5
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father,
the Word,
and the Holy Ghost:

and these three are one.


WHAT DOES GOD THE FATHER SAY ABOUT HIS SON?

HEBREWS 1
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners
spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son,
whom he hath appointed heir of all things,
by whom also he made the worlds;

3 Who being the brightness of his glory,
and the express image of his person,
and upholding all things by the word of his power,
when he had by himself purged our sins,
sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

4 Being made so much better than the angels,
as he hath by inheritance obtained a more
excellent name than they.

5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time,
Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee?
And again, I will be to him a Father,
and he shall be to me a Son?

6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten
into the world, he saith,
And let all the angels of God worship him.

7 And of the angels he saith,
Who maketh his angels spirits,
and his ministers a flame of fire.


8 But unto the Son he saith,
Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever:
a sceptre of righteousness
is the sceptre of thy kingdom.


9 Thou hast loved righteousness,
and hated iniquity; therefore God,
even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil
of gladness above thy fellows.

10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning
hast laid the foundation of the earth;
and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

11 They shall perish; but thou remainest;
and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;

12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up,
and they shall be changed: but thou art the same,
and thy years shall not fail.

13 But to which of the angels said he at any time,
Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies
thy footstool?

14 Are they not all ministering spirits,
sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs
of salvation?


Jesus Christ sits right this very minute,
NEXT TO God the Father.
He is glorified in Heaven.
He is God Almighty,
Seek Him before it is eternally too late.
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"ILLUSIONS DECEIVE, COLORS CIRCUMSCRIBE, EVEN DIVISIBLES ARE INDIVISIBLE."

This is a rare technique, one not much used, but one of the greatest teachers in India, Shankara, has used it, and Shankara has based his whole philosophy on this technique. You know his philosophy of MAYA -- illusion. Shankara says everything is illusory. Whatsoever you are seeing, hearing, feeling, all is illusion. It is not real because the real cannot be contacted by senses. You are hearing me and I am seeing you hearing me: it may be just a dream, and there is no way how to judge whether it is a dream or not. I may be just dreaming that you are here listening to me. How am I to know that this is real and not a dream? There is no way.

Chuang Tzu is reported to have said that one night he dreamt that he had become a butterfly. In the morning he was very sad -- and he was not a man to have sadness, he was never known to be sad. His disciples gathered and said, "Chuang Tzu, Master, why are you so sad?"

Chuang Tzu said, "Because of a dream."

The disciples laughed and said, "Because of a dream you are sad -- you who have been always teaching us not to be sad even if the whole world causes you sadness? And just a dream has caused you sadness? What are you talking about?"

Chuang Tzu said, "It is such a dream that it causes me very, very deep confusion, sadness, misery. I dreamt in my dream that I had become a butterfly."

The disciples said, "What is so puzzling in it?"

Chuang Tzu said, "Now this is the puzzle: if Chuang Tzu can dream that he can become a butterfly, why not the reverse? The butterfly may dream that it has become a Chuang Tzu. So now I am disturbed. What is right and what is wrong? What is real and what is unreal? Was it Chuang Tzu who was dreaming of becoming a butterfly or has the butterfly now gone to sleep and dreamt that it has become a Chuang Tzu? If one is possible, then the other is possible." And it is said that Chuang Tzu never could get over this puzzle. This remained for his whole life.

How to decide that I am not in a dream talking to you? How to decide that you are not dreaming I am talking? With senses no decision is possible, because while dreaming, dreams look real -- as real as anything. When you dream, you always feel it is real. When dreams can be felt as real, why can reality not be felt as dream?

Shankara says with senses there is no possibility to know whether the thing confronting you is real or unreal. And if there is no possibility to know whether it is real or unreal, Shankara calls it MAYA: it is illusion. Illusion doesn't mean unreal. Illusion means an impossibility to decide whether it is real or unreal -- remember this.

In Western languages MAYA has been translated very wrongly, and it gives the feeling in Western terms that "illusion" means "unreal." It does not! "Illusion" means the inability to decide whether the thing is real or unreal. This confusion is MAYA.

This whole world is MAYA, a confusion. You cannot decide; you cannot be decisive about it. It is always escaping you, always changing, turning into something else. It is fantasy, a dreamlike thing.

This technique is concerned with this philosophy. "ILLUSIONS DECEIVE:" or, that which deceives is illusion.

-- "COLORS CIRCUMSCRIBE, EVEN DIVISIBLES ARE INDIVISIBLE:"

In this world of illusion nothing is certain. This whole world is like rainbows. They appear to be, but they are not. If you are far away they are, but if you come nearer they dissolve. The nearer you come, the more they are not. If you reach to a point where you were seeing a rainbow, it is no more there.

The whole world is like rainbow colors, and it is so. When you are far away everything is hopeful; when you come nearer the hope disappears. And when you reach the goal, only ashes are there -- just a dead rainbow. The colors have disappeared, and things as they appeared are not. As you feel them to be, they are not.

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thanks alchemikey,

i was just thinking this just in another way

i told Mr. United Kingdom that NOT REAL is also a concept

as the guy above i got bummed also when i real eyes'd perhaps that i'm being dreamt instead of being the one that is dreaming

my companion keeps telling me "why are you talking to characters because they are NOT REAL"

i keep telling him "you are not real also and neither am i"

i keep saying "it's NOT real but it's real at the same time"

that leads to confusion

it's what i said before

where i come from is infinity

infinity is 0 or GOD

how do you get 0?

stick to simple

love +1
hate -1
= 0

real +1
not real -1
= 0

yin +1
yang -1
= 0
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the scriptwriter keeps putting these songs on speaker system in Starbucks:





time to say goodbye?
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i SEE clearly enough to KNOW
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knowledge = fiction
 Quoting: op (no name) 55708636

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57101693


so is what you are repeating..that it is NOT REAL = concept
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Beliefs = LIEs
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i believe we're just potentials or aspects of the Dreamer...split off parts of the ONE or GOD
 Quoting: op (no name) 56694698

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57101693


just as what you say that's it's NOT REAL is also a concept

;)
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Void all scripts through jesus christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30552972


We write our own scripts or God is a liar.
The script we write and follow will lead us to Heaven or Hell.

WE choose which path we will take.

Jesus stepped off the throne of Heaven, became man
and died to provide a path to Heaven.

Choose HIS SCRIPT!


WHO IS JESUS?

JOHN 1
1 In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him;
and without him was not any thing made
that was made.

4 In him was life;
and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness;
and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God,
whose name was John.

7 The same came for a witness,
to bear witness of the Light,
that all men through him might believe.

8 He was not that Light,
but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light,
which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world,
and the world was made by him,
and the world knew him not.

11 He came unto his own,
and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him,
to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood,
nor of the will of the flesh,
nor of the will of man,
but of God.


14 And the Word was made flesh,
and dwelt among us,

(and we beheld his glory, the glory
as of the only begotten of the Father,)
full of grace and truth.


WHERE IS JESUS NOW?

1 JOHN 5
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father,
the Word,
and the Holy Ghost:

and these three are one.


WHAT DOES GOD THE FATHER SAY ABOUT HIS SON?

HEBREWS 1
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners
spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son,
whom he hath appointed heir of all things,
by whom also he made the worlds;

3 Who being the brightness of his glory,
and the express image of his person,
and upholding all things by the word of his power,
when he had by himself purged our sins,
sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

4 Being made so much better than the angels,
as he hath by inheritance obtained a more
excellent name than they.

5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time,
Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee?
And again, I will be to him a Father,
and he shall be to me a Son?

6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten
into the world, he saith,
And let all the angels of God worship him.

7 And of the angels he saith,
Who maketh his angels spirits,
and his ministers a flame of fire.


8 But unto the Son he saith,
Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever:
a sceptre of righteousness
is the sceptre of thy kingdom.


9 Thou hast loved righteousness,
and hated iniquity; therefore God,
even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil
of gladness above thy fellows.

10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning
hast laid the foundation of the earth;
and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

11 They shall perish; but thou remainest;
and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;

12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up,
and they shall be changed: but thou art the same,
and thy years shall not fail.

13 But to which of the angels said he at any time,
Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies
thy footstool?

14 Are they not all ministering spirits,
sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs
of salvation?


Jesus Christ sits right this very minute,
NEXT TO God the Father.
He is glorified in Heaven.
He is God Almighty,
Seek Him before it is eternally too late.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57136476


beautiful words but as i said before Christians take the words too literally..this is a dreamworld where all is symbol, metaphor and allegory

yes the trinity 3 = 1. i am the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost

"We write our own scripts or God is a liar."

you don't write the script and you don't choose the path based on my experience and what i can SEE

GOD is a liar but i believe intentionally

if you are GOD and you are all alone...what do you do?

you split yourself off into different characters...you dream worlds...

what do you do in the dreams?

you come up with beLIEfs to get lost in...because you want to pretend...to forget you are all alone

you LIE to yourself that you have free will because you don't wanna remember there is ONLY ONE scripting this world. you LIE because you don't wanna remember you are all alone

don't be hard on GOD. he is a liar so that we all can forget.

imagine GOD would tell you the truth...that he's scripting your thoughts...everything...you wouldn't be able to pretend that you're the character you think you are

he has no choice but to LIE





GLP