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| Marie34 Offer Upgrade  User ID: 55165341  United States04/25/2014 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Marie34 (OP) User ID: 55165341 United States04/25/2014 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice.  Just remember. In the end, no one gets away with ANYTHING. God will sort him out if all else fails. This is the only thing that has helped. I just called the DAs office again after posting this. I'm gonna try to out some more pressure on them. See if I can get a full report on their findings and take it to the state level. Marie34 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4834092  Canada04/25/2014 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. I posted about this awhile back not long after it happened and a lot of people assured me he would be charged but still hasn't been. She was shot in the temple by him at point blank range on November 3rd 2012. Quoting: Marie34 He claimed she was handing him the gun by the barrel and shot herself in the head. They said they were able to rule out her shooting herself 100%. All of our family was convinced he would go to prison. It was the most blatant case of murder I've ever seen. He is an alcoholic and drug addict who is on disability for DEPRESSION. She worked and supported him and their kids for over 30 years. He beat her, isolated her, controlled her. Threatened to kill her and their kids many times. I know she played her part in staying with him, but she had a very low iq and low self esteem. He preyed on her and took everything from her. They were poor, she delivered pizza to make money for him. The Detective told us he wanted to see him in prison, but the DA WILL NOT prosecute bc he says there isn't enough evidence! Ruled it a suspicious homicide and said maybe something will come up...I don't get it. I've had nightmares since this happened, I'm so frustrated and heartbroken over this. How does this happen? I never knew how unjust and corrupt our system really is until this. It still shocks me and everyone who knows about it. Is it bc she was poor and of low status? Some facts- after he shot her he washed his hands before the ambulance got there, she lived for several hours in the hospital before she passed. He first told his son they were fighting and she shot herself who told us all this at the hospital, then changed his story. He never served one minute in jail and was only questioned twice. He has never spoken to our family since. He showed up at the funeral we paid for and organized, sat in the front and dramatically made a scene. Then refuses to pay for anything, demands we buy a double headstone with HIS name on half and purchase the plot beside her for him since he can't afford it on how govt check. We get this communication from his grown kids who all enable him. How do I not let this eat me up inside? Is there any way to go around the DA? I'm just sick over it and so is my family. and yet there are men who want us to go back to living that sort of life. tells you a lot right her doesn't it? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23764026 United States04/25/2014 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. Call the newpaper, and write a story describing every court released detail of the case, and then follow it up with propaganda based slanders at the DA. OR Call the FBI One of the initial charters of the FBI was to be a 3rd party to fight local law enforcement corruption. Either of these options though, you better be squeaky clean because you'll be starting a war. You might find out who's running in opposition against the current DA, and drop him the story. I don't know if this would be worth it to you, but just some avenues you could perhaps research. |
| Marie34 (OP) User ID: 55165341 United States04/25/2014 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. Ok a very rude woman from the DAs office just called back. I said we wanted all the documentation they have on the case, she said well it's still open. I said but you told us that you aren't pressing charges and it has been almost two years we have a right to the facts. She said well I'll see what we can do. I said what? We have been patient and waited and we have a right to this, I said we've talked to a private investigator and we are not letting this go...she said she needed to talk to the DA and would call back... Called right back and gave me the case number and told me how they had worked SOOOOO hard on the case, I told them this was absurd and ludicrous! She said I would have to file a request for the case files citing the georgia open records act. Said there's just not enough evidence RIGHT NOW but it's open..blah blah. Marie34 |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 143474 United States04/25/2014 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. Ok a very rude woman from the DAs office just called back. I said we wanted all the documentation they have on the case, she said well it's still open. I said but you told us that you aren't pressing charges and it has been almost two years we have a right to the facts. She said well I'll see what we can do. I said what? We have been patient and waited and we have a right to this, I said we've talked to a private investigator and we are not letting this go...she said she needed to talk to the DA and would call back... Quoting: Marie34 Called right back and gave me the case number and told me how they had worked SOOOOO hard on the case, I told them this was absurd and ludicrous! She said I would have to file a request for the case files citing the georgia open records act. Said there's just not enough evidence RIGHT NOW but it's open..blah blah. F ck them. I'd hate to suggest it. But if I were there, I'd definitely help you find justice if you know what I mean. And it would be slow and painful. Very slow and very painful. |
| Marie34 (OP) User ID: 55165341 United States04/25/2014 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. Call the newpaper, and write a story describing every court released detail of the case, and then follow it up with propaganda based slanders at the DA. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23764026 OR Call the FBI One of the initial charters of the FBI was to be a 3rd party to fight local law enforcement corruption. Either of these options though, you better be squeaky clean because you'll be starting a war. You might find out who's running in opposition against the current DA, and drop him the story. I don't know if this would be worth it to you, but just some avenues you could perhaps research. I just kinda started that fight on the phone. When she was killed the DA was just taking over for the former one. He was the assistant and there was no election. I was told I could possibly contact the state prosecutor and get help. Another county in ga had a family who had to do the same thing bc the killer was a local cop. Local govt, did NOTHING. You know you see this stuff on Tv and you think it's over blown! it is NOT. The justice system is sooo CORRUPT that it's sickening. Marie34 |
| Marie34 (OP) User ID: 55165341 United States04/25/2014 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. The biggest piece of evidence to me is this he claims she was HOLDING THE GUN BY THE BARREL when it shot her in the temple (this means she was handing off a loaded gun LOOKING AWAY BY THE BARREL, right!) and there were NO burn marks on her hand. None, she was not holding that gun. We had to bring that up ourselves! And they were just like, yeah that's true...wtf??? Marie34 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23764026 United States04/25/2014 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. Call the newpaper, and write a story describing every court released detail of the case, and then follow it up with propaganda based slanders at the DA. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23764026 OR Call the FBI One of the initial charters of the FBI was to be a 3rd party to fight local law enforcement corruption. Either of these options though, you better be squeaky clean because you'll be starting a war. You might find out who's running in opposition against the current DA, and drop him the story. I don't know if this would be worth it to you, but just some avenues you could perhaps research. I just kinda started that fight on the phone. When she was killed the DA was just taking over for the former one. He was the assistant and there was no election. I was told I could possibly contact the state prosecutor and get help. Another county in ga had a family who had to do the same thing bc the killer was a local cop. Local govt, did NOTHING. You know you see this stuff on Tv and you think it's over blown! it is NOT. The justice system is sooo CORRUPT that it's sickening. On the other hand, maybe the DA really doesn't have enough to prosecute. The problem may not be the DA, but the judges sitting on the benches. You should do some homework on that, and see which judge would be set to hear a case if it were brought up, and write a letter/call that judge and his office to figure out if the DA is full of shit or not. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23764026 United States04/25/2014 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. Either way, you might try calling some domestic abuse lobbying groups, or women's rights groups, and try to utilize the evil of the system to your advantage. I'm sure the DA doesn't want "Promotes Domestic Abuse" associated with his name. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 658762 United States04/25/2014 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. |
| Marie34 (OP) User ID: 55165341 United States04/25/2014 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. Call the newpaper, and write a story describing every court released detail of the case, and then follow it up with propaganda based slanders at the DA. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23764026 OR Call the FBI One of the initial charters of the FBI was to be a 3rd party to fight local law enforcement corruption. Either of these options though, you better be squeaky clean because you'll be starting a war. You might find out who's running in opposition against the current DA, and drop him the story. I don't know if this would be worth it to you, but just some avenues you could perhaps research. I just kinda started that fight on the phone. When she was killed the DA was just taking over for the former one. He was the assistant and there was no election. I was told I could possibly contact the state prosecutor and get help. Another county in ga had a family who had to do the same thing bc the killer was a local cop. Local govt, did NOTHING. You know you see this stuff on Tv and you think it's over blown! it is NOT. The justice system is sooo CORRUPT that it's sickening. On the other hand, maybe the DA really doesn't have enough to prosecute. The problem may not be the DA, but the judges sitting on the benches. You should do some homework on that, and see which judge would be set to hear a case if it were brought up, and write a letter/call that judge and his office to figure out if the DA is full of shit or not. Well the DA himself said it was his decision, so did the detectives we talked to. The investigator from his office just said that it's open but they don't have enough evidence. The officers told us they know he killed her intentionally and were frustrated like we were. 2 weeks before he killed her he called one of her sisters drunk and said he would pay her if she would tell him what my aunt had been up to and who she was seeing...which was crazy. She did nothing, but he was sooo paranoid and controlling. Marie34 |
| Marie34 (OP) User ID: 55165341 United States04/25/2014 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. civil suit would be pointless unless he testified and somehow gave evidence in open court that pointed to his guilt. might be something to consider marie. good luck in your quest for justice. ~~~whynow Hmmm...that is brilliant. Thank you!! Marie34 |
| Marie34 (OP) User ID: 55165341 United States04/25/2014 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. What ethnicity are you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23764026 Either way, you might try calling some domestic abuse lobbying groups, or women's rights groups, and try to utilize the evil of the system to your advantage. I'm sure the DA doesn't want "Promotes Domestic Abuse" associated with his name. We're white. And his personal cause is supposedly domestic violence. Thank you for your help, I will try that. 15 years ago he was institutionalized after threatening to kill my aunt and her kids. But they said they couldn't get those medical records for the case, does that sound right? Marie34 |
| Marie34 (OP) User ID: 55165341 United States04/25/2014 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. Ok a very rude woman from the DAs office just called back. I said we wanted all the documentation they have on the case, she said well it's still open. I said but you told us that you aren't pressing charges and it has been almost two years we have a right to the facts. She said well I'll see what we can do. I said what? We have been patient and waited and we have a right to this, I said we've talked to a private investigator and we are not letting this go...she said she needed to talk to the DA and would call back... Quoting: Marie34 Called right back and gave me the case number and told me how they had worked SOOOOO hard on the case, I told them this was absurd and ludicrous! She said I would have to file a request for the case files citing the georgia open records act. Said there's just not enough evidence RIGHT NOW but it's open..blah blah. F ck them. I'd hate to suggest it. But if I were there, I'd definitely help you find justice if you know what I mean. And it would be slow and painful. Very slow and very painful. Thanks so much for caring. I just had a really vivid dream about this last night and it made it seem like it just happened yesterday. Marie34 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 57068776 United States04/25/2014 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. You see and hear of this all the time. Its like fate has this set in motion that someone dies and the killer goes free no matter what. Killers have admitted killing people and are never prosecuted. Something not of this world handles the situation and the situation goes exactly how that something directs it. How is it you see the truth and the agencies dishing criminal law will not. Its because something intervenes and directs the event to cloud the facts from being absorbed and snapped together for justice. Huh, just ice. Imagine that, two words clicked together forming another word that suppose to bring closure. I have a sister who's husband is a demon that tortures her now for 50 years. He knows better than to kill my sister cause I will fix him real good. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23764026 United States04/25/2014 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. What ethnicity are you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23764026 Either way, you might try calling some domestic abuse lobbying groups, or women's rights groups, and try to utilize the evil of the system to your advantage. I'm sure the DA doesn't want "Promotes Domestic Abuse" associated with his name. We're white. And his personal cause is supposedly domestic violence. Thank you for your help, I will try that. 15 years ago he was institutionalized after threatening to kill my aunt and her kids. But they said they couldn't get those medical records for the case, does that sound right? There are HIPPA laws which protect patient rights (Supposedly), but they can be overruled by a warrant. (Supposedly) Here's a quick question about the guy under investigation. Is he related, or connected to anyone important, or wealthy? |
| Marie34 (OP) User ID: 55165341 United States04/25/2014 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. You see and hear of this all the time. Its like fate has this set in motion that someone dies and the killer goes free no matter what. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57068776 Killers have admitted killing people and are never prosecuted. Something not of this world handles the situation and the situation goes exactly how that something directs it. How is it you see the truth and the agencies dishing criminal law will not. Its because something intervenes and directs the event to cloud the facts from being absorbed and snapped together for justice. Huh, just ice. Imagine that, two words clicked together forming another word that suppose to bring closure. I have a sister who's husband is a demon that tortures her now for 50 years. He knows better than to kill my sister cause I will fix him real good. Is scary. Bc apparently the easiest way for a man to kill a woman is blatantly and say it was an accident. Or a woman to kill a man too I guess. I know it's bigger than the external issues at play, I deeply believe that the universe and God is just. That is what I cling too. Sometimes it overwhelms me though, and it did today. The dreams just bring it back. I just want to do something for her. It was an open casket, and her face looked like she was crying. She was one of those people that were just completely passive, always smiling and nice, seemingly oblivious to negative things. Maybe that was how she dealt with the abuse or adapted? I don't know, it's just sad and tragic. In her billfold she had my number written on a piece of paper tucked away. He didn't allow her to talk to me so it had to be secretive when she did. I wish I could've saved her. Marie34 |
| Marie34 (OP) User ID: 55165341 United States04/25/2014 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My aunt was murdered by her abusive husband, blatantly, and walks free...any advice please? Heartbreaking story of injustice. What ethnicity are you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23764026 Either way, you might try calling some domestic abuse lobbying groups, or women's rights groups, and try to utilize the evil of the system to your advantage. I'm sure the DA doesn't want "Promotes Domestic Abuse" associated with his name. We're white. And his personal cause is supposedly domestic violence. Thank you for your help, I will try that. 15 years ago he was institutionalized after threatening to kill my aunt and her kids. But they said they couldn't get those medical records for the case, does that sound right? There are HIPPA laws which protect patient rights (Supposedly), but they can be overruled by a warrant. (Supposedly) Here's a quick question about the guy under investigation. Is he related, or connected to anyone important, or wealthy? Not that we know of. We've been asked this before. He was a foster kid and moved around a lot. Had a very unstable background. His mom was a Mormon but has passed. That's all I know. He's very isolated. Marie34 |
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