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DRUG TEST welfare/foodstamp recipients? Ohhhhhhhhh sh*t

 
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DRUG TEST welfare/foodstamp recipients? Ohhhhhhhhh sh*t
It may technically be a law to do so already, but not implemented yet. If the GOV passes this, then they leave the discretion up to the case worker...this will be interesting, yet effective if executed.

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How insane

Rule 1. If you consume one type of vegetable matter you forfeit the right to consume another type, fucking ludicrous


These nazi bastards want a fight, and they are gonna get it, why not try drug testing BANKERS, the worlds BIGGEST scroungers and leeches, and if they did, 90% of them would be without a job tomorrow.

They cannot do this to just ONE section of society, how is that equal?....it's facism

If they want to enforce Rule 1, then enforce across ALL workers, lets see how much of a society you got left then.


Their machine is fucked, i fuck it a little everyday, and if everyone could fuck it a little everyday we might just stand a chance of FREEDOM, my back is turned
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How insane

Rule 1. If you consume one type of vegetable matter you forfeit the right to consume another type, fucking ludicrous


These nazi bastards want a fight, and they are gonna get it, why not try drug testing BANKERS, the worlds BIGGEST scroungers and leeches, and if they did, 90% of them would be without a job tomorrow.

They cannot do this to just ONE section of society, how is that equal?....it's facism

If they want to enforce Rule 1, then enforce across ALL workers, lets see how much of a society you got left then.


Their machine is fucked, i fuck it a little everyday, and if everyone could fuck it a little everyday we might just stand a chance of FREEDOM, my back is turned
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57217624


If one receives "their" food or benefits as a way of living, then they are under the rule of their law..
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BETTER YET do away with ALL FORMS of welfare including food stamps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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How insane

Rule 1. If you consume one type of vegetable matter you forfeit the right to consume another type, fucking ludicrous


These nazi bastards want a fight, and they are gonna get it, why not try drug testing BANKERS, the worlds BIGGEST scroungers and leeches, and if they did, 90% of them would be without a job tomorrow.

They cannot do this to just ONE section of society, how is that equal?....it's facism

If they want to enforce Rule 1, then enforce across ALL workers, lets see how much of a society you got left then.


Their machine is fucked, i fuck it a little everyday, and if everyone could fuck it a little everyday we might just stand a chance of FREEDOM, my back is turned
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57217624


Hey, it's still a deal.

welfare/foodstamps = something for nothing.

I think it's a small favor to ask on behalf of the tax payer who provides that money that they are sober, clean, and looking for employment while they are given financial assistance,

Would you give your money to someone who is strung out on heroin, and has no intention of finding a way to support themselves?

Here's the secret regarding equality. There's never been, and is no such thing. There are no two people on this planet they are exactly equal. So, remove that premise from your head.

Now, there is fairness. I imagine there aren't many bankers who would be able to manipulate people, manage finances while they are a burnout stoner, or indulging in a serious addiction. It just doesn't go with the job. They would get fired for incompetence.

If you want to go to war against the bankers, then you need to get off the shit that slows your mental acuity and emotional stability. It doesn't matter if it's legal or not. If you want any shot at fairness, then you need to be able to have enough power to stand on your two feet. Being strung out jobless, and carrying around a victim mentality does nothing for you.

Now, don't get me wrong. I support your right to abuse whatever chemical you want, but I don't expect to pay for it when things go south.
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Re: DRUG TEST welfare/foodstamp recipients? Ohhhhhhhhh sh*t
How insane

Rule 1. If you consume one type of vegetable matter you forfeit the right to consume another type, fucking ludicrous


These nazi bastards want a fight, and they are gonna get it, why not try drug testing BANKERS, the worlds BIGGEST scroungers and leeches, and if they did, 90% of them would be without a job tomorrow.

They cannot do this to just ONE section of society, how is that equal?....it's facism

If they want to enforce Rule 1, then enforce across ALL workers, lets see how much of a society you got left then.


Their machine is fucked, i fuck it a little everyday, and if everyone could fuck it a little everyday we might just stand a chance of FREEDOM, my back is turned
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57217624


I will say this...if you can afford the GANJA, which is not cheap, depending on your preference actually, then you may not need foodstamps/welfare, paid for by you and I. Thats all.
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BETTER YET do away with ALL FORMS of welfare including food stamps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I take you are not unemployed? I take it also you have a well paid job and are not on minimum wage? One day you maye have to rely on welfare.
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I don't know if I see it as something that's wrong because unless it's for medical purposes and you can prove it, you really shouldn't be trying to escape (through alcohol and video games even, not just drugs) while trying to fix your financial situations at the same time. We are all EQUAL as human beings but we are all different and unique...each endowed with God given skills that we need to discover in ourselves so we can contribute to our communities and our lives...escaping the problems won't fix it. Best of luck to everyone figuring out what their purposes are! :)
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dont forget the wise words of the poet and prophet Mr EBT.


"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace" Jimi Hendrix
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BETTER YET do away with ALL FORMS of welfare including food stamps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I take you are not unemployed? I take it also you have a well paid job and are not on minimum wage? One day you maye have to rely on welfare.
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And if I were in that position, I would expect to be drug free...and would be OK with being drug tested every week
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That is what hospitals and doctors are for:

Unless the person doing medical procedures on a person has a license to read technical, medical reports, bedside manner, administering medications, procedures or anything of a medical nature etc, and has taken the Hypocritical Oath to not harm a person, arenot allowed to practice medicine without a license.

Anyone that does on a person, a medical procedure without a license must be arrested, on the spot. It should be a 911 call (playing doctor, on a person, with or without consent).

I should think the medical profession that had to sacrifice, spend thousands and thousands on time and money, to obtain their license to practice medicine on a person, would be lobbying this right now, instead of standing around letting every, dumb, low-income dirt-bag, infect persons with dangerous bacteria, and/or cause injury or mental trauma etc, take their jobs away from them.
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Actually i really dislike People who buy "Recreational Drugs" from their Welfare Money "but" to do Mass Testing of every single Person is not acceptable, this is a Step in to the wrong Direction!
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If people have to undergo drug testing to work and earn a paycheck, they should have to undergo it to do nothing and receive a welfare check.
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Also ca. 20% of the simple Drug Test (via Urine) deliver wrong Results.
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If people have to undergo drug testing to work and earn a paycheck, they should have to undergo it to do nothing and receive a welfare check.
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And the next Step is Gene Sampling?
Sexual Orientation?
Political Orientation?
Family?
Browser History?
Facebook?

It is not up to the Government what we want to do!
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If people have to undergo drug testing to work and earn a paycheck, they should have to undergo it to do nothing and receive a welfare check.
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And the next Step is Gene Sampling?
Sexual Orientation?
Political Orientation?
Family?
Browser History?
Facebook?

It is not up to the Government what we want to do!
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As long as you are collecting a Government check it is.
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If people have to undergo drug testing to work and earn a paycheck, they should have to undergo it to do nothing and receive a welfare check.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1302477


And the next Step is Gene Sampling?
Sexual Orientation?
Political Orientation?
Family?
Browser History?
Facebook?

It is not up to the Government what we want to do!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57416088


That's why these programs should be in the communities hands, and not in the federal governments hands.
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If people have to undergo drug testing to work and earn a paycheck, they should have to undergo it to do nothing and receive a welfare check.
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And the next Step is Gene Sampling?
Sexual Orientation?
Political Orientation?
Family?
Browser History?
Facebook?

It is not up to the Government what we want to do!
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you just shut-up now and eat your chicken soup
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If people have to undergo drug testing to work and earn a paycheck, they should have to undergo it to do nothing and receive a welfare check.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1302477


And the next Step is Gene Sampling?
Sexual Orientation?
Political Orientation?
Family?
Browser History?
Facebook?

It is not up to the Government what we want to do!
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That's why these programs should be in the communities hands, and not in the federal governments hands.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23764026


hesright
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That's old news, they already tried it and it was a massive fail and a huge embarrassment. There's no way it will ever happen again. It's a testament to how people don't care about spending money on the poor, they will spend extra money if it means they can punish the poor some more. Some people think that as long as others are one step below, it's fair to shit on them. People who are poor but make more than people living in technical poverty are the ones who vote in favor of this kind of stupid nonsense.
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People also need to remember that if you're that poor that you need welfare, you're probably destitute on some level too and just need an escape, like drugs. It's a normal human reaction to stress, really. Also people should remember that drugs are easier to get than a job. You can easily just sell enough drugs to pay for your habit and nothing else. Using drugs is not a show / tell that you have too much money to be on welfare. I think people need to be honest and open about why they want drug testing. They associate blacks with welfare and drug use, and they dislike the blacks.
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People also need to remember that if you're that poor that you need welfare, you're probably destitute on some level too and just need an escape, like drugs. It's a normal human reaction to stress, really. Also people should remember that drugs are easier to get than a job. You can easily just sell enough drugs to pay for your habit and nothing else. Using drugs is not a show / tell that you have too much money to be on welfare. I think people need to be honest and open about why they want drug testing. They associate blacks with welfare and drug use, and they dislike the blacks.
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Let me make this clear to everyone...

I am not against any race on this topic. I know all types of diverse people on welfare that actually need it and don't abuse it. (thanks to the past recession), so posting this story was to only get opinions about it and if it would be effective to make a difference.
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It is about TIME!!!

Watch, 90% of all welfare cases will drop off.

Although, it is a temp fix to a larger problem. Proliferate recreational drug use.
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BETTER YET do away with ALL FORMS of welfare including food stamps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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We should just make everything FREE right?
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Re: DRUG TEST welfare/foodstamp recipients? Ohhhhhhhhh sh*t
It may technically be a law to do so already, but not implemented yet. If the GOV passes this, then they leave the discretion up to the case worker...this will be interesting, yet effective if executed.

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 Quoting: redrocket


case workers will become so corrupt and rich if this happens.
also i can just see how creepy caseworkers are gonna have loads of fun extorting in exchange for sex.

on the other hand obviously it seems like a good idea. as heavy drugususers dont usually want to actually work and pay taxes and contribute.

but on the other hand.. if weed will be part of this. even tho loads of people actually do work and smoke it. we might see SO MANY people getting cut off of foodstamps that it just wont be possible to do. you cant just kick LOADS and LOADS of people out of their house and refuse food. what do you think they will do?!
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I think it's a small favor to ask on behalf of the tax payer who provides that money that they are sober, clean, and looking for employment while they are given financial assistance,

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Yet they fail to test for the most common drug of abuse, the one which causes the most workplace accidents, the most deaths...alcohol.
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It may technically be a law to do so already, but not implemented yet. If the GOV passes this, then they leave the discretion up to the case worker...this will be interesting, yet effective if executed.

[link to www.11alive.com]
 Quoting: redrocket


Florida has the law in place already-and yes they are testing before benefits!! Other states are following slowly!!
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How insane

Rule 1. If you consume one type of vegetable matter you forfeit the right to consume another type, fucking ludicrous


These nazi bastards want a fight, and they are gonna get it, why not try drug testing BANKERS, the worlds BIGGEST scroungers and leeches, and if they did, 90% of them would be without a job tomorrow.

They cannot do this to just ONE section of society, how is that equal?....it's facism

If they want to enforce Rule 1, then enforce across ALL workers, lets see how much of a society you got left then.


Their machine is fucked, i fuck it a little everyday, and if everyone could fuck it a little everyday we might just stand a chance of FREEDOM, my back is turned
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ROFL. Someone's a pothead and on the dole. umadbro?
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Re: DRUG TEST welfare/foodstamp recipients? Ohhhhhhhhh sh*t
It may technically be a law to do so already, but not implemented yet. If the GOV passes this, then they leave the discretion up to the case worker...this will be interesting, yet effective if executed.

[link to www.11alive.com]
 Quoting: redrocket


Florida has the law in place already-and yes they are testing before benefits!! Other states are following slowly!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57499965


Didnt know that. It makes sense, but not all agree with it.
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On the lighter side, SNAP cards can purchase tomato plants.

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On the lighter side, SNAP cards can purchase tomato plants.

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