Christianity and abortion -American women seem to love it

religious people love the preach but when it comes to themselves it goes out the window. So not surprized by the stats

White women love the black cock, thats why

And Hindus kill their female babies and buddhists in China do the same all to have their one child they can have (a boy).

someone on another thread pointed out that if a pregnant woman is murdered, the killer is charged w two counts of murder… for her and the child…

yet women somehow decided they wanted the ability to kill their child??

then you have the witches who openly say abortion is part of their religion…

most "Christian" women are not truly followers of Christ, imo, else they would not do such a thing…

no one talks about how psychologically destructive it is for women to have an abortion…

then you have the use of aborted fetuses in foods… (google it)

dumbed down people gonna dumb

Well it makes sense, doesn't it? On two levels. The Bible itself doesn't say anything bad about abortion. The god itself even aborts women's babies, so I doubt it would care. I don't think Hindus or many of those other religions have anything against abortion in their holy books either. Culturally, American Christians say they are against it, but American Christians say they are against everything on paper. They still have the same rate of STDs, homosexuality, rape, murder, abortion, violence and drug addiction as anyone else. They are still human after all.

Matt 18:6

But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Only in your pathetic coon dreams you inferior chimp.

Thou shall not commit murder.

Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you.

God is pretty clear about this. It's those who pretend to be Christian, but really follows Lucifer, who don't understand.

That's not specific enough, though. It doesn't specify unborn, so the reader has to assume it's talking about living children.

Besides, there are plenty of scripture in both Numbers and Hosea that describe god-sanctioned abortions. It wouldn't sanction it sometimes if abortion was just supposed to always be wrong.

I didn't realize there were statistics breaking out religious affiliation for std's, sexual status, rape, murder etc. I would like to see that data. Got a link?

Not sure where the Christians get all their angst about abortion from. It's probably comes from wanting to control women.

Murdering trash, PERIOD.

Right, but the god in the Bible never qualifies abortion as murder. It never equates the two. And neither does science. So there's just no reason to assume that there's any equation at all, the Bible itself never equates it.

And "pretending to be Christian" isn't a thing. Nobody pretends to be Christian, except for maybe the occasional non-believer who is just scared to come out. What you're exercising is a logical fallacy called the "No True Scotsman Fallacy." A person disagreeing with you or behaving in a way that you do not feel is Christian does not automatically make them devil worshipers or pretenders. If that were the case, those Christians would say the same about other Christians and everyone would be considered a pretender or non-believer. Take a look at the Wiki page for "No True Scotsman Fallacy" to get a better idea of why what you're suggesting isn't rationally possible.

My goodness......no wonder America is screwed, how is the SELF-mind screwing progressing there "Inga"?

Numbers and Hosea you say? Where?

Oh, there are statistics on everything. One way to look at this is to take a look at the prison population when you're thinking of things like rape, violence or murder. The Federal Bureau of Prisons confirms that almost 100% of prisoners have some religious affiliation. Here's a link about it, but I'm sure you can google for more information on that same issue:

[link to ffrf.org]

As far as STDs and sex, here's a link that explains how Christian teens have sex and STDs at the same rate as other teens:

[link to www.answering-christianity.com]

The only issue you might not find solid statistics on is homosexuality, since so many people are closeted and don't self-report.

Calm down and stop panicking. My comment has nothing to do with the status of America, just breathe and think rationally and let's talk like adults. Just say what is on your mind. Being rude doesn't remove my credibility, it removes yours and that's not even what I'm trying to do to you, so don't do it to your own self. Just behave properly and represent your side of the discussion like a rational adult.

Wow,just wow. So sad how backwards this world has become. So, the purpose of this thread was to........bash chrisitan women? That's nice. The bottom line is that abortion is murder and God condones it. You don't need to quote the bible to know that.

I am backwards as well, he does NOT condone it.

Hosea 13:16 - God will rip pregnant women open for their disobedience.

Hosea 9:11-16, Ephraim begs the god to make women miscarry, and the god listens - basically a god-induced abortion.

Numbers 5:11-21 God will abort an adulterous woman's unborn child.

There's another Numbers verse where women are ordered to be killed if they have slept with men. Rationally, this includes women who are both pregnant and not pregnant.

Revealing true statistics about abortion isn't the same thing as bashing. Backwards is when people say things that are false, nonsensical or just erroneous and other people go along with it. That's not what this is. These are real statistics about an actual issue. And claiming that women have abortions isn't "bashing" them. The bottom line isn't that abortion is murderer. That's your view, but that isn't the bottom line. Just because you think it doesn't make it the bottom line. I agree that the Bible god condones abortion, but yes, you would need to quote the Bible any time you're talking about what the Bible says. That's just "common" sense.

You could always read the ENTIRE CHAPTER for context instead of looking like an ass and attempting to convey a false context.

I have, that's how I know about these. Just because you disagree doesn't mean you can just hope or claim that a person hasn't read a Bible chapter. That makes you sound like you're just talking based on emotion rather than reason. Don't do that, it doesn't lend to the debate. Especially the name calling, it only diminishes the value of what you are saying. I don't look like an ass, you just disagree with me and don't know how else to express it. I'm not conveying a false context. The chapter is very clear. Not to mention that context doesn't change these specific verses. Context doesn't take away the significance or meaning of the passages. Instead of panicking and becoming rude and upset, defend your position with actual rational discussion.

Then instead of giving me a paragraph, why not tl;dr the entire chapter?

Would've been a lot quicker then you trying to sell a feeling.

I can post scriptures about vengeance all day long.
If I don't give the context they're written it, it's meaningless.

Well that isn't a valid point any more, and it's dishonest on your behalf. The reason I say this is because you were the person who originally threw out scripture. Remember? Matt 8:16. You were the one who did that first, so it's intellectually dishonest for you to say now that quoting specific verses is meaningless. You yourself initiated it.

Also because tl;dr-ing an entire chapter would only be my subjective summary, which you may or may not agree with. It would be my interpretation. Plus it wouldn't point to specifics, it would be too vague.

I would definitely argue that context has nothing to do with it anyway. If I were to say, "it's good to rape," there IS NO context EVER, AT ALL, that would make that justified. People use context to justify immoral things and that isn't okay.