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so some say they come from other solar systems, some say they came from mars before/after a big asteroid hit the planet, some even argue that all aliens are demons pretending to be aliens to make us doubt god

after watching far far too many ufo shows and doing some of my own research i have developed another theory

some may very well be from another planet but im starting to think we our a new "society" in other words there have been other races of humanity who have since left this planet and we are kind of like a zoo in the sense that the older race of humans wants a comprehensive idea of how they got where they are. so they monitor how we evolve socially and what not

there is also a chance we are part of a reality tv show... that seems to be in our nature(joke..kinda)

plz give me your thoughts/arguments/counter-arguments
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maybe they're us from the future. that's why they won't just drop down on the superbowl or white house. don't want to 'kill your grandpa' so to speak.
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I like the theory that we destroy ourselves once we reach a peak of technology, and only so many are left to recreate towards a new level.

bible says blah de blah 144 thousand or something like that, makes me wonder if this is whats left over every time a major cataclysm, be it man made, celestial or, of a higher power restarts the process.

not exactly what youre talking about but it makes me wonder.
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aliens could be microscopic..we think things in our size
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aliens could be microscopic..we think things in our size
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now thats a fun theory

gives more credit to ppl saying they her voices in their head
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Re: about these aliens
Well yeah, what you said.
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They revere God more than we ever have.

They are Loving and Kind.

They have not invaded. Even after 2012. Where they perhaps could interfere.

But they are waiting for us to call them and/or fix our problems.
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I too think we are being watched ...... Monitored by older 'aliens'



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im gonna go out on a limb here and say that aliens are not demons and thats a bogus argument

thanks though
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56137370


im gonna go out on a limb here and say that aliens are not demons and thats a bogus argument

thanks though
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you've gone further out than out on a limb I'm afraid

and I can guarantee you it will cost you most dearly for the upcoming thousand years of the Millennium Age

such a pity as you have been advised and given all truth in this regard repeatedly

which you shall also remember when this is finished and you find yourself stuck on the wrong side of an uncrossable gulf

banned from the City of Light having failed to receive a full resurrection into your original immortal body

clearly it's too much for you to fathom the truth of the Millennium Age

hence you shall be found worshipping lucifer/satan in what remains of this present Age

read it and weep for it be so
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you've gone further out than out on a limb I'm afraid

and I can guarantee you it will cost you most dearly for the upcoming thousand years of the Millennium Age

such a pity as you have been advised and given all truth in this regard repeatedly

which you shall also remember when this is finished and you find yourself stuck on the wrong side of an uncrossable gulf

banned from the City of Light having failed to receive a full resurrection into your original immortal body

clearly it's too much for you to fathom the truth of the Millennium Age

hence you shall be found worshipping lucifer/satan in what remains of this present Age

read it and weep for it be so
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ive been alive for less than half of a century 20 years of that i was a child.... if i am banned for eternity from heaven for making a "logical" assumption that life is greater than what a human mind can imagine then your god sounds like a dick... have you thought about that? maybe god is more loving and understanding and maybe all the fire and brimstone stuff was just glamor made to keep people in line.

god is all
all is love
and the universe is big enough for more than one intelligent species

now gtfo of my thread before i use more logic on you

abomb
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you've gone further out than out on a limb I'm afraid

and I can guarantee you it will cost you most dearly for the upcoming thousand years of the Millennium Age

such a pity as you have been advised and given all truth in this regard repeatedly

which you shall also remember when this is finished and you find yourself stuck on the wrong side of an uncrossable gulf

banned from the City of Light having failed to receive a full resurrection into your original immortal body

clearly it's too much for you to fathom the truth of the Millennium Age

hence you shall be found worshipping lucifer/satan in what remains of this present Age

read it and weep for it be so
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58971505


ive been alive for less than half of a century 20 years of that i was a child.... if i am banned for eternity from heaven for making a "logical" assumption that life is greater than what a human mind can imagine then your god sounds like a dick... have you thought about that? maybe god is more loving and understanding and maybe all the fire and brimstone stuff was just glamor made to keep people in line.

god is all
all is love
and the universe is big enough for more than one intelligent species

now gtfo of my thread before i use more logic on you

abomb
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Here we go with the 'universe is big enough' argument... From a non-evotard for once. Refreshing.
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so some say they come from other solar systems, some say they came from mars before/after a big asteroid hit the planet, some even argue that all aliens are demons pretending to be aliens to make us doubt god

after watching far far too many ufo shows and doing some of my own research i have developed another theory

some may very well be from another planet but im starting to think we our a new "society" in other words there have been other races of humanity who have since left this planet and we are kind of like a zoo in the sense that the older race of humans wants a comprehensive idea of how they got where they are. so they monitor how we evolve socially and what not

there is also a chance we are part of a reality tv show... that seems to be in our nature(joke..kinda)

plz give me your thoughts/arguments/counter-arguments
 Quoting: NotBillClinton


ALL of the UFO documentary shows on television are propaganda.

They offer some truth and twist facts to suit their agenda.

They are really trying to leave some room for doubt if you are paying attention you can see the underlying message of how such speculation is possibly absurd and they even introduce obvious disinformation into their narratives to undermine any integrity they might have most of the time.

They always have a message that the possibility exists that all of it is a combination of hidden secret government technology and public disillusionment.

As for the stuff about an advanced race leaving the earth in the past..
that seems theoretically possible.

Except extremely unlikely with all of the man eating Dinosaurs and such.

Likely we are the most advanced race to evolve on the earth.

It's also likely that humans that have evolved on earth are part of a science experiment.

After all, we didn't occur naturally...

We were "created" by "god."
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yah i no that argument is over used and i should have been more accepting/respectful of peoples opinions

i apologize and accept all further arguments
"please children stop this"
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ALL of the UFO documentary shows on television are propaganda.

They offer some truth and twist facts to suit their agenda.

They are really trying to leave some room for doubt if you are paying attention you can see the underlying message of how such speculation is possibly absurd and they even introduce obvious disinformation into their narratives to undermine any integrity they might have most of the time.

They always have a message that the possibility exists that all of it is a combination of hidden secret government technology and public disillusionment.

As for the stuff about an advanced race leaving the earth in the past..
that seems theoretically possible.

Except extremely unlikely with all of the man eating Dinosaurs and such.

Likely we are the most advanced race to evolve on the earth.

It's also likely that humans that have evolved on earth are part of a science experiment.

After all, we didn't occur naturally...

We were "created" by "god."
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interesting now i have noticed where they try to avert the idea that world powers have much more powerful technology then most ppl believe they do, however there seems to be evidence of some kind of "outside" intelligence brought in to multiple societies through out history now what the "outside" influence was... eh im not educated enough for that one

thats why i ask the good ppl of GLP
"please children stop this"
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ALL of the UFO documentary shows on television are propaganda.

They offer some truth and twist facts to suit their agenda.

They are really trying to leave some room for doubt if you are paying attention you can see the underlying message of how such speculation is possibly absurd and they even introduce obvious disinformation into their narratives to undermine any integrity they might have most of the time.

They always have a message that the possibility exists that all of it is a combination of hidden secret government technology and public disillusionment.

As for the stuff about an advanced race leaving the earth in the past..
that seems theoretically possible.

Except extremely unlikely with all of the man eating Dinosaurs and such.

Likely we are the most advanced race to evolve on the earth.

It's also likely that humans that have evolved on earth are part of a science experiment.

After all, we didn't occur naturally...

We were "created" by "god."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50023508


interesting now i have noticed where they try to avert the idea that world powers have much more powerful technology then most ppl believe they do, however there seems to be evidence of some kind of "outside" intelligence brought in to multiple societies through out history now what the "outside" influence was... eh im not educated enough for that one

thats why i ask the good ppl of GLP
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Almost like some type of responsibility. As if they created us.
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yah i no that argument is over used and i should have been more accepting/respectful of peoples opinions

i apologize and accept all further arguments
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It wasn't even an argument. You are simply stating the universe is big.
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I'm kinda like you OP, trying to figure it all out.

As for the 'ancient aliens', the anunnaki, the info about creation and the sumerians and all that precluded biblical times by such a long time...... I'm still sorting thru all that, not sure what to make of it, yet.

One thing, I have reached the point of believing that there are aliens 'out there', that some are likely benevolent, and some are likely evil. Just as we humans can be. I do believe that some crashed landed here (likely were shot down by TPTB, not sure tho). And that our gov't then turned around and used the info found from the remains and spaceships, for their own nefarious purposes. Keeping it all secret from the public. Only to suddenly, years later, come up with 'new technology' learned and etc. Still keeping secret where they found the knowledge.

I do believe that aliens have contacted TPTB, and made deals with them, exchanging technology info and etc for whatever the aliens wanted. I also think that some aliens have been manipulative in their dealings with TPTB, and that TPTB have also been manipulative with the aliens as well. A lot of double-crossing has likely gone on.

And I think that TPTB plan to use, and have used, info about aliens to further their own agendas against society. Have been and will continue to make us believe one thing, while something else entirely different is the truth. Playing off the benevolent ETs and the evil ETs, which only makes us all confused.

And lastly, I do think that the majority of what folks see as 'UFO sightings' these days, are in reality, spacecraft that our own gov't has been able to create, and are using in our skies.

Just watched this video, and altho it's almost 2 hours long, it's one of the best (of the many videos) I've ever seen. Gets a bit tedious here and there, but very eye-opening, for me anyway.

Talks a lot about what they've found on the moon, for example, and show how NASA etc blocked out those findings. Also mentions that Germany, Russia and the USA have been in on this knowledge for ages. Have and continue to spy on each other, etc.

Undeniable Evidence Aliens Do Not Come From Other Galaxies

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so some say they come from other solar systems
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They're idiots.
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I do believe that aliens have contacted TPTB, and made deals with them, exchanging technology info and etc for whatever the aliens wanted. I also think that some aliens have been manipulative in their dealings with TPTB, and that TPTB have also been manipulative with the aliens as well. A lot of double-crossing has likely gone on.


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politicking huh? now that brings up the question what is the true gap in power between us and them. if they are so superior then why not demand our compliance or r they just being polite and dealing with us in a manor we are accustom to?

the handling us in a way we are already accustom to accutally makes sense because the theory is they were our gods of old so that falls in line with that
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I thought i would chime in, although i don't particularly have any theories beyond what has already been stated here, which has also been stated in countless threads on Glp before but it's all good.

My experience in this field is extremely limited, albeit, non-existent. But having said that, i have seen these "things" and i have researched a lot but more importantly, i have pondered very deeply upon this phenomenon.

To me this phenomenon seems to be very weird and even clandestine for the most part. These objects seem to desire the attention of an observer, or that the observer somehow completely unknowingly directs themselves to a point where an object can be viewed for a short time.

I believe there could be two forms of "alien". The first one could be naturally occurring deep-space visitors which might be a lot like jellyfish and things of that nature. The book "The Cosmic Pulse of Life" by Trevor James Constable may well define these kinds of critters.

The second type of "alien" are the ones which are directly or even indirectly interacting with humans. I would say that this type, oddly enough, may well have a place at our side, or, who have the authority to wield powers, to mimic and or, to try to exist along side us - feeding off of us. I don't wish to acknowledge a separate demonic aspect to this, however, there does appear to be evidence to the contrary.

Someone on Glp told it right a long time ago, don't waste your time on UFO's, you'll never know the truth. I think this could be true, and maybe that's a good thing.
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Chemtrails
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im not seeing the connection
it is advanced technology but nothing suggested "ET" involvement
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I do believe that aliens have contacted TPTB, and made deals with them, exchanging technology info and etc for whatever the aliens wanted. I also think that some aliens have been manipulative in their dealings with TPTB, and that TPTB have also been manipulative with the aliens as well. A lot of double-crossing has likely gone on.


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politicking huh? now that brings up the question what is the true gap in power between us and them. if they are so superior then why not demand our compliance or r they just being polite and dealing with us in a manor we are accustom to?

the handling us in a way we are already accustom to accutally makes sense because the theory is they were our gods of old so that falls in line with that
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Yep, politicking... a good way of putting it!

The true gap in power? Hmmm... I'm not sure, unless it's that we have something here on Earth that they need, and cannot seem to find anywhere else. It seems that they are superior to us, in that they must be far more advanced in technology. And our 'powers that be - elite' wanting that technology gives the aliens the advantage, am guessing.

So yeah, politicking in that each are falling over themselves kissing each other's asses, to get what they each want.

A good point you make tho... why not just demand our compliance? Especially considering the theory that they are 'our gods of old'. Perhaps they are amused by us, and simply 'humoring' us along? Perhaps knowing they'll get their way, no matter what they do. They supposedly have been watching us, studying us, and if so, surely know what makes us tick. So to speak.

I don't know enough of the true details to know if the aliens have tried demanding what they want, or not. It doesn't "seem" like they have tried making demands. It seems like they have, for the most part, been polite. As in making deals with TPTB, if that is true info.

I often wonder tho..... if some of the aliens just pretended to make deals, then did a double-cross type of thing. I cannot imagine our presidents (or other powers that be) agreeing to allow aliens to 'abduct' our citizens and/or experiment on us in any way. (on the other hand, that sure could be right up TPTB alley, seeing how many of them treat us themselves). I wonder if perhaps an agreement was allowed to some degree by TPTB, in exchange for some fabulous technology etc, but some of the aliens carried it too far? And TPTB perhaps not knowing what to do about that. (Maybe I am being too naive, giving our elite too much credit for being nice guys, when we know they aren't).

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I often wonder tho..... if some of the aliens just pretended to make deals, then did a double-cross type of thing. I cannot imagine our presidents (or other powers that be) agreeing to allow aliens to 'abduct' our citizens and/or experiment on us in any way. (on the other hand, that sure could be right up TPTB alley, seeing how many of them treat us themselves). I wonder if perhaps an agreement was allowed to some degree by TPTB, in exchange for some fabulous technology etc, but some of the aliens carried it too far? And TPTB perhaps not knowing what to do about that. (Maybe I am being too naive, giving our elite too much credit for being nice guys, when we know they aren't).

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i have heard that theory. something like aliens meet Eisenhower and they made a treaty. certain number of human abductions/experiments for an untold amount of technology

thats more ancient aliens though....
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I think grey aliens are Humans that have come back from the future to extract DNA to try to inversify their population because multiculturalism eventually turned into a genderless , raceless hybrid of every culture which has dilluted their gene poole into near extinction .

So they use time travel to come back and extract our DNA while we still have different features.
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Perhaps, they have always been here...
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I think grey aliens are Humans that have come back from the future to extract DNA to try to inversify their population because multiculturalism eventually turned into a genderless , raceless hybrid of every culture which has dilluted their gene poole into near extinction .

So they use time travel to come back and extract our DNA while we still have different features.
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how would multiculturalism turn ppl genderless?

Perhaps, they have always been here...
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there are alot of things that suggest that however why would they choose to remain hidden for so long

what is it about their way of life that they would prefer such a thing
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Some could be from Atlantis which was believed to be more advanced that we are now. IF that is true, many of them could have ventured off somewhere out there and just pop in every now and again to see what happened to the rest of us.

Other ET's could be from different dimensions or from a parallel universe and have the ability to move between ours and theirs.

Or, they could be just figments of our collective imaginations and wishful thinking that we are not alone in the universe.





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