How can hell be eternal when Satan will be destroyed when Jesus returns?

Here's the problem....until Satan and his angels are removed from the equation, WE WILL ALL BE SINNERS, tempted 24/7...everyone, even the most holiest Christian sins at some point during their path...so if a Christian who is holy 100% of the time and then sins but dies before he has a chance to repent, he's going to be in hell?

THIS is the bullshit the church teaches you, and the bullshit I was taught growing up....

Think about it, why would God, a perfect being, eternally punish his imperfect (formerly perfect) creations because one of his angels deceived all of humanity and destroyed paradise?

Do a little research and logical thinking and you'll see this is how it will actually play out:

1. There will be no rapture, the rapture wasn't even a concept until the mid-1800's because some religious nut decided that all Christians would get a free pass out of the tribulation...why would they get a seat on the sidelines to watch the battle between Satan and God, they have some special pass? No, everyone will be here for the tribulation that's alive, the rapture is false doctrine.

2. Christ descends from heaven and binds Satan and his angels for 1,000 years...during this time there is no sin, no temptation, everyone who ever lived is resurrected (save the saints of course) and the earth is transformed into a paradise as Christ teaches everyone his way and his philosophy...people who survived the tribulation and were resurrected will remember sin, remember how horrible the world was but they won't act on the memories as there is no temptation anymore...those born during this time will never know what it was like to have sin in the world.

3. At the end of 1,000 years Satan will be loosed to tempt the world again, even though some people remember sin they will turn against Christ as well as those who never were born into a sinful world....they will amass an army against Jesus and his followers and he will destroy them all...those who were destroyed will be resurrected again to be judged...those that died in opposition to Christ will be eternally erased from existence..those that stood with him will live forever as will those living in the aftermath who stood with Christ.

This makes much more sense than the hokum the church teaches you about a forgiving God considering no one alive remembers a perfect world without sin or has an opportunity to live in it.

How can Mordor be eternal when Sauron will be destroyed when Frodo returns the One Ring to the fires of Mount Doom?

Please, just answer me this question so I may sleep at night....

Please I'm scared.

YOU SHALL NOT....PASS!!

Look at me! I'm a religious person trying to be logical.

Satan is the Adversary. That's all he is. Look it up.

FYI
When he is "destroyed" he is banned from this earthly realm and the new heavens and earth will be separated from the reaches of hell.

He is destroyed because right now he is in his glory FUCKING THINGS UP ON THIS PLANET

It will sorely bother him and his minions to not have the ability to do that anymore.

He will not longer be the Prince of the Air.

Hades is thrown into the lake of fire and destroyed.

There is no eternal punishment.

You can eternally cease to exist, but you won't burn in flames forever, if that's what you're thinking.

IF it is destroyed it is oblivion.
The Lake of Fire BURNS FOREVER.
The smoke of your torment rises forever before the throne of God.

No, you are not going to enter oblivion.
You are going to be LIVING IN IT, FOREVER.

In Jesus Christ.


Revelation 14:8-12

8 A second angel followed and said, “‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great,’[a] which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries.”

9 A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, 10 they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.” 12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus.

I tried to enter oblivion, but then I took an arrow to the knee.

Thank God you did, because the alternative is death in fire forever if you face God with your sins in you.

At least now you still have a chance to repent.

In Jesus Christ.

There will be a lake of fire and all the damned will burn in it but not forever. If they did then God would make immortal sinners. God will not do this and he will not punish someone for eternity for a lifetime of sin. That's not his character. There are plenty of verses that back this up.

The devil never has nor never will "rule" Hell!

Hell is not "Hell" because God is not there...

Hell is Hell because God IS there unleashing His Wrath

Paul Washer said this of hell, "...Don't think my friend that hell is hell because God is not there... That's a very popular teaching. [Preachers say] "Hell is hell because God's not there." ...No, hell is hell because God is there! His wrath is there. His face is set against them throughout all eternity. Don't think, in hell you're going to escape God." May the sober reality of hell be in our minds and heart. May we be grieved over our lack of burden for the lost. "And I myself will fight against you with an outstretched hand and with a strong arm, even in anger, and in fury, and in great wrath."(Jer 21:5)

God created Satan, Lucifer, Jesus, Buddha and whoever else we hear about. God is all of them. If not then God is not God.

How about death and the grave ? Bible says clearly these to will be cast in the lake of fire.... will death and the grave burn and be tortuted with flames of fire for eternity ?

You know why you believe "hell" is a place that souls burn and are tortured over and over and over in fire ? Because you do not believe yoir bible is truth from God.. that is why you would rather believe fables of men

the damned will be "blotted out" eternally

period

ceasing to exist even in spirit form IS Hell for all intents and purposes, quite frankly

lucifer will NOT be destroyed until the tail END of the upcoming Millennium Age

he has one last insurrection to lead to separate the "overcomers" from those who will follow him into the Lake of Fire at that time and be "blotted out" eternally

ie: forevermore

There is no place in all of creation that God cannot be, great post - JDB _ perhaps it is the fire of God that just makes them wish they were really really dead - God is a consuming fire, no evil can look upon a Holy God and live - see Moses for the rest of the story - again I ask, where is jeffrey dahmer and cut the baby out manson going? Right... to heaven with Christs redeemed, called, elected, and chosen, who have been killed all the day long only because they will not bow their knee to a mere man that calls himself god on earth? Make room for everybody, Jesus bees lovin you alls with no judgement against your darkened evil heart - he be havin no standards according to you universalist sappy love fest infestation of Gods Truth - come on in the party has started.

Last Edited by Ohwow! on 07/26/2014 11:34 PM

There are many references to hell being an eternal fire & torture in the bible. Many references also state it is below the earth or at the core. After the Millennial Reign of Christ when a new heaven & earth are created, there is a different _location_ for hell (somewhere off of this earth perhaps). STILL HELL NONE THE LESS!

Pastor Steven Anderson on the subject of hell.

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