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DOES FOREVER AND EVER MEAN NEVER ENDING ETERNITY OR DOES It HAVE AN END ? WILL THE REIGN OF JESUS END ?

 
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DOES FOREVER AND EVER MEAN NEVER ENDING ETERNITY OR DOES It HAVE AN END ? WILL THE REIGN OF JESUS END ?
Christians teach that "forever and ever" is everlasting enternity and there is no end.

They say Jesus will reign as king for all eternity and the scriptures infact do tell us he reigns "Forever and Ever" However, the scriptures also tell us his reign comes to an end. So, which is true? The scriptures, or the doctrine of men ? Is "forever and ever" never ending or is it limited to a period of time and do the words Forever AND ever mean a "time AND a time"


Revelations 11:15

Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever



1st Corinthians 15: 24-25

Then the end will come, when he(Jesus)hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

So, Chris reigns now in this present (forever) and (Ever) the millennium

Then when it's all said and done, his reign ends handing the keys of the kingdom BACK to the Father and is MADE subject to the one who gave him reign for a time and time.
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Yes. Forever and Ever has to mean eternal because Jesus lose 99.9% of his creation to Satan and was unable to save the world and they will burn insanely in a torture chamber without end.
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Yes. Forever and Ever has to mean eternal because Jesus lose 99.9% of his creation to Satan and was unable to save the world and they will burn insanely in a torture chamber without end.
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Sure thing Willis

Thread: Jesus did NOT teach eternal torture. IN fact he taught the very OPPOSITE of what christians teach about hell.
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Just stopping by because the title of this thread made me think of this song



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Re: DOES FOREVER AND EVER MEAN NEVER ENDING ETERNITY OR DOES It HAVE AN END ? WILL THE REIGN OF JESUS END ?
Christians teach that "forever and ever" is everlasting enternity and there is no end.

They say Jesus will reign as king for all eternity and the scriptures infact do tell us he reigns "Forever and Ever" However, the scriptures also tell us his reign comes to an end. So, which is true? The scriptures, or the doctrine of men ? Is "forever and ever" never ending or is it limited to a period of time and do the words Forever AND ever mean a "time AND a time"


Revelations 11:15

Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever



1st Corinthians 15: 24-25

Then the end will come, when he(Jesus)hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

So, Chris reigns now in this present (forever) and (Ever) the millennium

Then when it's all said and done, his reign ends handing the keys of the kingdom BACK to the Father and is MADE subject to the one who gave him reign for a time and time.
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Eternity is by definition without end.
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Yeah and Satan gets cast into the abyss for 1000 years. ... then what? lol. Obviously the cycle repeats.

It's all a kind of metaphor about creation and destruction.
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seems to be a bounded infinity.

never ending but not exactly forever
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Christians teach that "forever and ever" is everlasting enternity and there is no end.

They say Jesus will reign as king for all eternity and the scriptures infact do tell us he reigns "Forever and Ever" However, the scriptures also tell us his reign comes to an end. So, which is true? The scriptures, or the doctrine of men ? Is "forever and ever" never ending or is it limited to a period of time and do the words Forever AND ever mean a "time AND a time"


Revelations 11:15

Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever



1st Corinthians 15: 24-25

Then the end will come, when he(Jesus)hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

So, Chris reigns now in this present (forever) and (Ever) the millennium

Then when it's all said and done, his reign ends handing the keys of the kingdom BACK to the Father and is MADE subject to the one who gave him reign for a time and time.
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Eternity is by definition without end.
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The universe, through the infinite binding of the vacuum and
this Vacuum is where you find Eternity.

But This Place and it's Universe is TEMPORAL.

Everything WILL be recirculated, recycled at the level of the vacuum before the initial moment of tension before separation of light from total darkness.

Where Unmanifested Absolute or Uncreated Energy IS.
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JESUS RIEGNS FOREVER SO YOU CAN FUCK AND WEAR TIGHT SHORTS AND SHOW YOURASS CHEEKS IF YOU A YOUNG GIRL
OR HAVE LESBIAN SEX OR GAY IF YOUR A GAY MAN
OR HETRO SEX IF YOUR STRAIGHT
ALL THINGS ARE NOW AND FOREVER LAWFUL
Thread: THE ROCK AND MUSIC GOSPEL CODES (Page 261)
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JESUS RIEGNS FOREVER SO YOU CAN FUCK AND WEAR TIGHT SHORTS AND SHOW YOURASS CHEEKS IF YOU A YOUNG GIRL
OR HAVE LESBIAN SEX OR GAY IF YOUR A GAY MAN
OR HETRO SEX IF YOUR STRAIGHT
ALL THINGS ARE NOW AND FOREVER LAWFUL
Thread: THE ROCK AND MUSIC GOSPEL CODES (Page 261)
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Yes. "Forever" is not everlasting. It is a period of time. And Christ will reign UNTIL THE END. THEN..1st Corinthians 15: 24-25

Then the end will come, when he(Jesus)hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
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seems to be a bounded infinity.

never ending but not exactly forever
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eternity lasts until the end of time.
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JESUS RIEGNS FOREVER SO YOU CAN FUCK AND WEAR TIGHT SHORTS AND SHOW YOURASS CHEEKS IF YOU A YOUNG GIRL
OR HAVE LESBIAN SEX OR GAY IF YOUR A GAY MAN
OR HETRO SEX IF YOUR STRAIGHT
ALL THINGS ARE NOW AND FOREVER LAWFUL
Thread: THE ROCK AND MUSIC GOSPEL CODES (Page 261)
 Quoting: C MAJOR 86193104


Yes. "Forever" is not everlasting. It is a period of time. And Christ will reign UNTIL THE END. THEN..1st Corinthians 15: 24-25

Then the end will come, when he(Jesus)hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
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That makes sense actually
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JESUS RIEGNS FOREVER SO YOU CAN FUCK AND WEAR TIGHT SHORTS AND SHOW YOURASS CHEEKS IF YOU A YOUNG GIRL
OR HAVE LESBIAN SEX OR GAY IF YOUR A GAY MAN
OR HETRO SEX IF YOUR STRAIGHT
ALL THINGS ARE NOW AND FOREVER LAWFUL
Thread: THE ROCK AND MUSIC GOSPEL CODES (Page 261)
 Quoting: C MAJOR 86193104


Yes. "Forever" is not everlasting. It is a period of time. And Christ will reign UNTIL THE END. THEN..1st Corinthians 15: 24-25

Then the end will come, when he(Jesus)hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
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That makes sense actually
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bump
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bump
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I see no Christian has even attempted to dispute this. Interesting....
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Re: DOES FOREVER AND EVER MEAN NEVER ENDING ETERNITY OR DOES It HAVE AN END ? WILL THE REIGN OF JESUS END ?
Christians teach that "forever and ever" is everlasting enternity and there is no end.

They say Jesus will reign as king for all eternity and the scriptures infact do tell us he reigns "Forever and Ever" However, the scriptures also tell us his reign comes to an end. So, which is true? The scriptures, or the doctrine of men ? Is "forever and ever" never ending or is it limited to a period of time and do the words Forever AND ever mean a "time AND a time"


Revelations 11:15

Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever



1st Corinthians 15: 24-25

Then the end will come, when he(Jesus)hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

So, Chris reigns now in this present (forever) and (Ever) the millennium

Then when it's all said and done, his reign ends handing the keys of the kingdom BACK to the Father and is MADE subject to the one who gave him reign for a time and time.
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Revelation shows us the what happens in the New Jerusalem era clearly.

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty
<<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.

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Yes. Forever and Ever has to mean eternal because Jesus lose 99.9% of his creation to Satan and was unable to save the world and they will burn insanely in a torture chamber without end.
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"forever" is mistranslated and means "an age". An age of what is a better question.
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JESUS RIEGNS FOREVER SO YOU CAN FUCK AND WEAR TIGHT SHORTS AND SHOW YOURASS CHEEKS IF YOU A YOUNG GIRL
OR HAVE LESBIAN SEX OR GAY IF YOUR A GAY MAN
OR HETRO SEX IF YOUR STRAIGHT
ALL THINGS ARE NOW AND FOREVER LAWFUL
Thread: THE ROCK AND MUSIC GOSPEL CODES (Page 261)
 Quoting: C MAJOR 86193104


Yes. "Forever" is not everlasting. It is a period of time. And Christ will reign UNTIL THE END. THEN..1st Corinthians 15: 24-25

Then the end will come, when he(Jesus)hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85483699


26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.





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