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Jeffersons Blackberry User ID: 51105454 United States 07/09/2014 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whiskeys, Scotches, Bourbons etc........Gain nothing aging in the bottle. The age is directly related to time in the "Barrel". The barrels are what gives it is color and flavor character. Again a 12 year old scotch bottle in 2014 would be better than a 6 year old scotch bottle 40 years ago. “To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”; Thomas Jefferson |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59786722 United States 07/09/2014 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whiskeys, Scotches, Bourbons etc........Gain nothing aging in the bottle. The age is directly related to time in the "Barrel". The barrels are what gives it is color and flavor character. Again a 12 year old scotch bottle in 2014 would be better than a 6 year old scotch bottle 40 years ago. Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry :whiskey: I inherited a shitload of booze from my wifes grandfather. He was a scorching alchoholic, Sometime in the 60's his doc told him he had cut back to one drink a day. He agreed, but finally his wife told the doctor that his "one drink" a day was a 16" tumbler glass of staight bourbon (old crow or wild turkey 100 proof). At some point in the early 80's stopped drinking, but he did not stop BUYING it. So he accumulated 100's of bottles over the years and saved them all. I have dozens of bottles of bizzare old brands like "Teachers" and "Old overholt" (rye whiskeys which i dont think anyone makes anymore) as well as Johnny, Jack, JB no single malts though, that is a bummer. To answer your question Op, i have dozens of old bottles of booze. (purchased in the 60's) all still have the old BAtf tax stamps on them) Anyway gere's what i noted: The johnny walker red and black purchased in the 60' is faaar superior in taste to new stuff The bottle of Jack was waay better, we did double blind taste tests and all of us could tell even novice drinkers. I have one bottle of Stoli that has to be at least from the 80's, maybe older- its 100 proof!! You cant buy 100 proof stoli anywhere. The old jim beam- definitely better and its 86 proof, unlike modern JB which is 80 proof. Objective measurements: color is richer, alchohol content is higher Subjective: tastes better far "smoother" smells richer. My point us, i have this fucking treasure trove of booze and although i know it doesnt "age" in the bottle, its absofckinglutely better quality, i am 100% sure that the modern manufacturing methods (aka shortcuts) have diminshed the quality. Especially on brands like Jack Daniels and Jim Beam |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45034213 United States 07/09/2014 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah, the good scotch is expensive. I gaurantee that most people in America have only ever tasted some Johnny Walker shit. Go get a $75 bottle of Laphroaig and drink it neat. That's good shit and will make chest hairs grow on yall's pussy ass. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59878171 United States 07/09/2014 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah, the good scotch is expensive. I gaurantee that most people in America have only ever tasted some Johnny Walker shit. Go get a $75 bottle of Laphroaig and drink it neat. That's good shit and will make chest hairs grow on yall's pussy ass. so true |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59878171 United States 07/09/2014 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whiskeys, Scotches, Bourbons etc........Gain nothing aging in the bottle. The age is directly related to time in the "Barrel". The barrels are what gives it is color and flavor character. Again a 12 year old scotch bottle in 2014 would be better than a 6 year old scotch bottle 40 years ago. Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry :whiskey: I inherited a shitload of booze from my wifes grandfather. He was a scorching alchoholic, Sometime in the 60's his doc told him he had cut back to one drink a day. He agreed, but finally his wife told the doctor that his "one drink" a day was a 16" tumbler glass of staight bourbon (old crow or wild turkey 100 proof). At some point in the early 80's stopped drinking, but he did not stop BUYING it. So he accumulated 100's of bottles over the years and saved them all. I have dozens of bottles of bizzare old brands like "Teachers" and "Old overholt" (rye whiskeys which i dont think anyone makes anymore) as well as Johnny, Jack, JB no single malts though, that is a bummer. To answer your question Op, i have dozens of old bottles of booze. (purchased in the 60's) all still have the old BAtf tax stamps on them) Anyway gere's what i noted: The johnny walker red and black purchased in the 60' is faaar superior in taste to new stuff The bottle of Jack was waay better, we did double blind taste tests and all of us could tell even novice drinkers. I have one bottle of Stoli that has to be at least from the 80's, maybe older- its 100 proof!! You cant buy 100 proof stoli anywhere. The old jim beam- definitely better and its 86 proof, unlike modern JB which is 80 proof. Objective measurements: color is richer, alchohol content is higher Subjective: tastes better far "smoother" smells richer. My point us, i have this fucking treasure trove of booze and although i know it doesnt "age" in the bottle, its absofckinglutely better quality, i am 100% sure that the modern manufacturing methods (aka shortcuts) have diminshed the quality. Especially on brands like Jack Daniels and Jim Beam Good info there. However, to me, the amazing thing is he collected it, but didn't drink it. That is some kind of rare, most would have to keep the liquor far away to stay on the wagon. |
JinxyKinxy User ID: 49438431 United States 07/09/2014 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whiskeys, Scotches, Bourbons etc........Gain nothing aging in the bottle. The age is directly related to time in the "Barrel". The barrels are what gives it is color and flavor character. Again a 12 year old scotch bottle in 2014 would be better than a 6 year old scotch bottle 40 years ago. Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry I inherited a shitload of booze from my wifes grandfather. He was a scorching alchoholic, Sometime in the 60's his doc told him he had cut back to one drink a day. He agreed, but finally his wife told the doctor that his "one drink" a day was a 16" tumbler glass of staight bourbon (old crow or wild turkey 100 proof). At some point in the early 80's stopped drinking, but he did not stop BUYING it. So he accumulated 100's of bottles over the years and saved them all. I have dozens of bottles of bizzare old brands like "Teachers" and "Old overholt" (rye whiskeys which i dont think anyone makes anymore) as well as Johnny, Jack, JB no single malts though, that is a bummer. To answer your question Op, i have dozens of old bottles of booze. (purchased in the 60's) all still have the old BAtf tax stamps on them) Anyway gere's what i noted: The johnny walker red and black purchased in the 60' is faaar superior in taste to new stuff The bottle of Jack was waay better, we did double blind taste tests and all of us could tell even novice drinkers. I have one bottle of Stoli that has to be at least from the 80's, maybe older- its 100 proof!! You cant buy 100 proof stoli anywhere. The old jim beam- definitely better and its 86 proof, unlike modern JB which is 80 proof. Objective measurements: color is richer, alchohol content is higher Subjective: tastes better far "smoother" smells richer. My point us, i have this fucking treasure trove of booze and although i know it doesnt "age" in the bottle, its absofckinglutely better quality, i am 100% sure that the modern manufacturing methods (aka shortcuts) have diminshed the quality. Especially on brands like Jack Daniels and Jim Beam So the guy afew posts ago was right whiskey,scotch do not age any more in the bottle....now lets think what could be different from those 60's bottles to now? Got a clue? Ingredients...gmo corn |
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Uit User ID: 59786722 United States 07/09/2014 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whiskeys, Scotches, Bourbons etc........Gain nothing aging in the bottle. The age is directly related to time in the "Barrel". The barrels are what gives it is color and flavor character. Again a 12 year old scotch bottle in 2014 would be better than a 6 year old scotch bottle 40 years ago. Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry :whiskey: I inherited a shitload of booze from my wifes grandfather. He was a scorching alchoholic, Sometime in the 60's his doc told him he had cut back to one drink a day. He agreed, but finally his wife told the doctor that his "one drink" a day was a 16" tumbler glass of staight bourbon (old crow or wild turkey 100 proof). At some point in the early 80's stopped drinking, but he did not stop BUYING it. So he accumulated 100's of bottles over the years and saved them all. I have dozens of bottles of bizzare old brands like "Teachers" and "Old overholt" (rye whiskeys which i dont think anyone makes anymore) as well as Johnny, Jack, JB no single malts though, that is a bummer. To answer your question Op, i have dozens of old bottles of booze. (purchased in the 60's) all still have the old BAtf tax stamps on them) Anyway gere's what i noted: The johnny walker red and black purchased in the 60' is faaar superior in taste to new stuff The bottle of Jack was waay better, we did double blind taste tests and all of us could tell even novice drinkers. I have one bottle of Stoli that has to be at least from the 80's, maybe older- its 100 proof!! You cant buy 100 proof stoli anywhere. The old jim beam- definitely better and its 86 proof, unlike modern JB which is 80 proof. Objective measurements: color is richer, alchohol content is higher Subjective: tastes better far "smoother" smells richer. My point us, i have this fucking treasure trove of booze and although i know it doesnt "age" in the bottle, its absofckinglutely better quality, i am 100% sure that the modern manufacturing methods (aka shortcuts) have diminshed the quality. Especially on brands like Jack Daniels and Jim Beam Good info there. However, to me, the amazing thing is he collected it, but didn't drink it. That is some kind of rare, most would have to keep the liquor far away to stay on the wagon. Im told he would open the double door cabinet he had it in and fucking STARE at it every day... Before i was married, he'd come in the grocery i worked at and buy the booze when it was on sale... Supposedly he quit cigarretres the same way- like a light switch. Supposedly he was one of the first people to get open heart surgery (or some heart procedure that was new)at Stanford When the doc finally told him straight up, "you're going to DIE if you dont quit the booze and cigs" he quit that day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60027329 India 07/09/2014 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ding ding ding!! Winner winner chicken dinner! I forgot about that- BUT, i thought GMO was banned in Europe, perhaps the Scotches are OK still (the good single malts from Scotland) Front door banned, but back door its not... only some Asian,African, south american countries are spared...think this way ...if its packaged seed from a large company, its GMO |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 44484715 United States 07/09/2014 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whiskeys, Scotches, Bourbons etc........Gain nothing aging in the bottle. The age is directly related to time in the "Barrel". The barrels are what gives it is color and flavor character. Again a 12 year old scotch bottle in 2014 would be better than a 6 year old scotch bottle 40 years ago. Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry :whiskey: I inherited a shitload of booze from my wifes grandfather. He was a scorching alchoholic, Sometime in the 60's his doc told him he had cut back to one drink a day. He agreed, but finally his wife told the doctor that his "one drink" a day was a 16" tumbler glass of staight bourbon (old crow or wild turkey 100 proof). At some point in the early 80's stopped drinking, but he did not stop BUYING it. So he accumulated 100's of bottles over the years and saved them all. I have dozens of bottles of bizzare old brands like "Teachers" and "Old overholt" (rye whiskeys which i dont think anyone makes anymore) as well as Johnny, Jack, JB no single malts though, that is a bummer. To answer your question Op, i have dozens of old bottles of booze. (purchased in the 60's) all still have the old BAtf tax stamps on them) Anyway gere's what i noted: The johnny walker red and black purchased in the 60' is faaar superior in taste to new stuff The bottle of Jack was waay better, we did double blind taste tests and all of us could tell even novice drinkers. I have one bottle of Stoli that has to be at least from the 80's, maybe older- its 100 proof!! You cant buy 100 proof stoli anywhere. The old jim beam- definitely better and its 86 proof, unlike modern JB which is 80 proof. Objective measurements: color is richer, alchohol content is higher Subjective: tastes better far "smoother" smells richer. My point us, i have this fucking treasure trove of booze and although i know it doesnt "age" in the bottle, its absofckinglutely better quality, i am 100% sure that the modern manufacturing methods (aka shortcuts) have diminshed the quality. Especially on brands like Jack Daniels and Jim Beam Thank you so much for this information. Tomorrow evening I plan a taste test with some friends are scotch drinkers. I will let you know the results. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5994233 United States 07/09/2014 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Finally, some of you figured out part of the equation (gmo corn and barley). Now you need to think about the biggest part of this equation. What is the #1 base ingredient In any spirit? WATER. Do you think that waterwas purer and tasting now or years gone by? And it doesn't matter if it's spring or filtered, it still tasted better years ago than it does now. |
Azadok61 User ID: 48171460 United States 07/09/2014 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or will the 2014 bottle taste cheaper and watered down? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44484715 There's a bottle of scotch I bought for a relative in the 1990's who died a few years later. It came back to me recently and I am going to conduct a taste test. It stops aging in flavor when out of the barrel , it just becomes an older bottle of whatever vintage it was bottled at . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59786722 United States 07/09/2014 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Finally, some of you figured out part of the equation (gmo corn and barley). Now you need to think about the biggest part of this equation. What is the #1 base ingredient In any spirit? WATER. Do you think that waterwas purer and tasting now or years gone by? And it doesn't matter if it's spring or filtered, it still tasted better years ago than it does now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5994233 Buuh buh but suuurely modern food conglomerates run all their water through an RO filtration before they use it in our food.... We are under assault people. Our food, water, air and now even our fucking booze! Fuck these motherless fucks... |
JinxyKinxy User ID: 49438431 United States 07/09/2014 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Finally, some of you figured out part of the equation (gmo corn and barley). Now you need to think about the biggest part of this equation. What is the #1 base ingredient In any spirit? WATER. Do you think that waterwas purer and tasting now or years gone by? And it doesn't matter if it's spring or filtered, it still tasted better years ago than it does now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5994233 Round up and fluoride water.....cause that shit doesnt degrade . |
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Heed User ID: 57482000 United States 07/09/2014 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read on the internet scotch stops aging in the bottle On a serious note I had some real expensive alcohol in Atlantic City, this rich old guy bought me and my two friends a glass. It was in a glass case, and it was definitely the smoothest liquor I ever had. I was also tripping balls on mushrooms. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59878171 United States 07/09/2014 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read on the internet scotch stops aging in the bottle Quoting: Heed On a serious note I had some real expensive alcohol in Atlantic City, this rich old guy bought me and my two friends a glass. It was in a glass case, and it was definitely the smoothest liquor I ever had. I was also tripping balls on mushrooms. Obama? Is that you? Hangin out with old white dudes at the bathhouse? |
PhobiaDHS User ID: 53190917 United States 07/09/2014 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I did a similar taste test with an old bottle of Drambui from the 1960's that was passed down to me. I can safely say that it is different than the modern stuff. It wasn't as thick and didn't have as syrupy a consistency that it has now. I also noticed that the flavors were smoother. We double blinded it and got the same results. Regardless of it not aging in bottle, something changed. I am thinking it has to either be how they make it or what they make it with. It still tastes good, but not anywhere near as good as the old stuff. Last Edited by Phobia on 07/09/2014 04:14 PM |