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Mickeyblue User ID: 9806228 United States 07/27/2014 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A conversation as mundane as how you woke up this morning, or what you're wearing to church can turn awkward really quick and things can escalate to personal attacks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58520234 A few examples of what it's like to talk with these types of people: I went camping with a friend recently. I set my alarm for the next morning. After we both woke up he asked me how I woke up. Friend: Did your alarm clock wake you up this morning? Me: Yes, at 7:00 Friend: Well, I woke up naturally On the surface this might seems like an off-handed comment to make (that they simply woke up without an alarm clock). But when a narcissist says it, it's for a whole different reason: it provides an immediate ego boost and dose of dopamine, like how a drug addict gets a fix. They are CONSTANTLY comparing themselves to others and look for any ways possible to get their fix. When you don't provide them with their narcissistic supply, they will become maligned like that. And today was another boiling point. I usually dress up for church in a dress shirt and dress pants. He wears jeans and an untucked dress shirt. Fine, I never said a word. This morning, as I usually do, I threw on a pair of jean shorts and t-shirt this morning before eating breakfast. He approaches me and says "you can wear that to church if you want, you don't have to dress up". I said "I don't wear street clothes to church". And the conversation went sour really quick when he pointed out about how the bible doesn't say what to wear. ("Let's get ready to rummmmble!!!!!") Remember: almost everything a narcissist says actually has a twisted motive: to make them feel better about them selves and to make YOU feel bad about yourself. NEVER forget this. I should point out that most of the people at my church wear dress shirts and dress pants, not jeans. He took no hesitation to haughty point out how the bible doesn't say what to wear, at which point he made sure to add "as long as your don't wear baggy gym shorts". Now, any normal person would immediately see the logical flaw in this conversation...I shouldn't have to point it out. If the bible doesn't say what to wear, than why would it be wrong to wear anything you wanted? I simply said "I don't wear street clothes to church" and it was interpreted as a personal attack on him at which point he looked for ways in vain to criticize everyone but himself. Do you let paralyzed people, diabetics, or other people with ailments bother you this much? They are boring people because they always steer the conversation around to themselves and possibly with some exceptions there immediate family. My sister is one and, you are correct, it is draining because few things of value outside of the superficial is ever explored and when you touch upon that it will nearly always be shallow and seek to resolve nothing in real issues demanding serious thought. These people are as bound to this course as the previous things that limit people are and cannot see this at all. That said, why do you remain in such a compromising relationship? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1544158 United States 07/27/2014 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | threaten him with separation Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60787498 bring up separation every time he attempts to get narcissistic supply from you It wont help,,, they feed off upsetting others. I got your back here buddy. Get out, save your soul, feel good in knowing he will soon find someone else to feed off. Then, not right away they will be miserable with him, and it will continue. They never change they just get worse with time and practice. God speed to you my love. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1544158 United States 07/27/2014 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You might be a narcissist too, for bothering to dump all that on us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56867732 Maybe I am and maybe people become that way to protect themselves against being victims of narcissists themselves. It's like a shield. This is true, they try to turn you into who they are. very very common. You have to get out. The protective shield seals of you, from your soul. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60787498 United States 07/27/2014 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | threaten him with separation Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60787498 bring up separation every time he attempts to get narcissistic supply from you It wont help,,, they feed off upsetting others. I got your back here buddy. Get out, save your soul, feel good in knowing he will soon find someone else to feed off. Then, not right away they will be miserable with him, and it will continue. They never change they just get worse with time and practice. God speed to you my love. No - it really does work to threaten them - not fight with them, but threaten them. "If you keep talking to me that way, I will leave". then stop talking to him for a while |
JustChillin User ID: 60195077 United States 07/27/2014 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You might be a narcissist too, for bothering to dump all that on us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56867732 Maybe I am and maybe people become that way to protect themselves against being victims of narcissists themselves. It's like a shield. Sounds like you need new friends. Or maybe YOU over analyze things too much. My daughter does that. Ask her a simple question, "How was your day? And she'll give a quick answer, then spend the next 10 minutes going over in her mind..."What EXACTLY did he mean by that" IT WAS JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION! NOTHING MORE. But she has to dissect it in 15 different ways....Good Grief. "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1544158 United States 07/27/2014 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | threaten him with separation Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60787498 bring up separation every time he attempts to get narcissistic supply from you It wont help,,, they feed off upsetting others. I got your back here buddy. Get out, save your soul, feel good in knowing he will soon find someone else to feed off. Then, not right away they will be miserable with him, and it will continue. They never change they just get worse with time and practice. God speed to you my love. No - it really does work to threaten them - not fight with them, but threaten them. "If you keep talking to me that way, I will leave". then stop talking to him for a while Its does only for a bit, but then they start again. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60787498 United States 07/27/2014 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | threaten him with separation Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60787498 bring up separation every time he attempts to get narcissistic supply from you It wont help,,, they feed off upsetting others. I got your back here buddy. Get out, save your soul, feel good in knowing he will soon find someone else to feed off. Then, not right away they will be miserable with him, and it will continue. They never change they just get worse with time and practice. God speed to you my love. No - it really does work to threaten them - not fight with them, but threaten them. "If you keep talking to me that way, I will leave". then stop talking to him for a while Its does only for a bit, but then they start again. If OP has the ability to leave a true narcissist, then OP should. Seems that OP is going to stay. OP needs to verbally cut this guys head off, each and every time he talks that way. This is only for true narcissists, which are mentally ill in a serious way. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51773745 Canada 07/27/2014 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You might be a narcissist too, for bothering to dump all that on us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56867732 Maybe I am and maybe people become that way to protect themselves against being victims of narcissists themselves. It's like a shield. Sounds like you need new friends. Or maybe YOU over analyze things too much. My daughter does that. Ask her a simple question, "How was your day? And she'll give a quick answer, then spend the next 10 minutes going over in her mind..."What EXACTLY did he mean by that" IT WAS JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION! NOTHING MORE. But she has to dissect it in 15 different ways....Good Grief. Sounds like your daughter is becoming a woman. So what is a narcissist exactly? How is it a bad or good thing? Most of these examples remind me of way too many people. I've lumped them into the asshole category for now. I'll check out Wikipedia but any other ideas would be pare orated and I doubt I'll get a good grasp on the pros and cons of narcissism. Cheers |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59895483 United States 07/27/2014 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about just providing positive feedback. If he wants praise for being able to get up naturally with no alarm clock, why is it so hard to say sincerely, 'that's wonderful, good for you.' rather than take it as a personal put-down. I do notice in myself that this kind of interaction bothers me with some but not with others, so I would say there is a basic incompatibility between the two of you, you aren't on a right wavelength with this person, and should get out of the relationship. Because with people you really love and are compatible and comfortable with, this kind of remark would not bother you or make you feel put down, instead you would feel glad that the person has this kind of success and share their pride. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55932458 United States 07/27/2014 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A conversation as mundane as how you woke up this morning, or what you're wearing to church can turn awkward really quick and things can escalate to personal attacks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58520234 A few examples of what it's like to talk with these types of people: I went camping with a friend recently. I set my alarm for the next morning. After we both woke up he asked me how I woke up. Friend: Did your alarm clock wake you up this morning? Me: Yes, at 7:00 Friend: Well, I woke up naturally On the surface this might seems like an off-handed comment to make (that they simply woke up without an alarm clock). But when a narcissist says it, it's for a whole different reason: it provides an immediate ego boost and dose of dopamine, like how a drug addict gets a fix. They are CONSTANTLY comparing themselves to others and look for any ways possible to get their fix. When you don't provide them with their narcissistic supply, they will become maligned like that. And today was another boiling point. I usually dress up for church in a dress shirt and dress pants. He wears jeans and an untucked dress shirt. Fine, I never said a word. This morning, as I usually do, I threw on a pair of jean shorts and t-shirt this morning before eating breakfast. He approaches me and says "you can wear that to church if you want, you don't have to dress up". I said "I don't wear street clothes to church". And the conversation went sour really quick when he pointed out about how the bible doesn't say what to wear. ("Let's get ready to rummmmble!!!!!") Remember: almost everything a narcissist says actually has a twisted motive: to make them feel better about them selves and to make YOU feel bad about yourself. NEVER forget this. I should point out that most of the people at my church wear dress shirts and dress pants, not jeans. He took no hesitation to haughty point out how the bible doesn't say what to wear, at which point he made sure to add "as long as your don't wear baggy gym shorts". Now, any normal person would immediately see the logical flaw in this conversation...I shouldn't have to point it out. If the bible doesn't say what to wear, than why would it be wrong to wear anything you wanted? I simply said "I don't wear street clothes to church" and it was interpreted as a personal attack on him at which point he looked for ways in vain to criticize everyone but himself. Funny. You're judging your friend as a narcissist and saying "your mind has been raped" by simple disagreement. YOU sound like you have a log in your eye friend. Remove it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1544158 United States 07/27/2014 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about just providing positive feedback. If he wants praise for being able to get up naturally with no alarm clock, why is it so hard to say sincerely, 'that's wonderful, good for you.' rather than take it as a personal put-down. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59895483 I do notice in myself that this kind of interaction bothers me with some but not with others, so I would say there is a basic incompatibility between the two of you, you aren't on a right wavelength with this person, and should get out of the relationship. Because with people you really love and are compatible and comfortable with, this kind of remark would not bother you or make you feel put down, instead you would feel glad that the person has this kind of success and share their pride. Do NOT feed the Narcissist with this. This is what they want constant praise they are a bottomless pit. It will exhaust you to keep them happy and suck your soul dry. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60787498 United States 07/27/2014 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about just providing positive feedback. If he wants praise for being able to get up naturally with no alarm clock, why is it so hard to say sincerely, 'that's wonderful, good for you.' rather than take it as a personal put-down. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59895483 I do notice in myself that this kind of interaction bothers me with some but not with others, so I would say there is a basic incompatibility between the two of you, you aren't on a right wavelength with this person, and should get out of the relationship. Because with people you really love and are compatible and comfortable with, this kind of remark would not bother you or make you feel put down, instead you would feel glad that the person has this kind of success and share their pride. then narcissist will say: "you really give well thought-out complements. Personally, I think over complementing is a bit weak". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1544158 United States 07/27/2014 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about just providing positive feedback. If he wants praise for being able to get up naturally with no alarm clock, why is it so hard to say sincerely, 'that's wonderful, good for you.' rather than take it as a personal put-down. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59895483 I do notice in myself that this kind of interaction bothers me with some but not with others, so I would say there is a basic incompatibility between the two of you, you aren't on a right wavelength with this person, and should get out of the relationship. Because with people you really love and are compatible and comfortable with, this kind of remark would not bother you or make you feel put down, instead you would feel glad that the person has this kind of success and share their pride. then narcissist will say: "you really give well thought-out complements. Personally, I think over complementing is a bit weak". DEAD ON. |
wk User ID: 60815610 United States 07/27/2014 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And for those that don't get it, yes, this has been a problem within the entire family .....not just me as we struggle to keep her happy. Your post helped me get an idea that helps. Thanks! violet |
wk User ID: 60815610 United States 07/27/2014 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about just providing positive feedback. If he wants praise for being able to get up naturally with no alarm clock, why is it so hard to say sincerely, 'that's wonderful, good for you.' rather than take it as a personal put-down. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59895483 I do notice in myself that this kind of interaction bothers me with some but not with others, so I would say there is a basic incompatibility between the two of you, you aren't on a right wavelength with this person, and should get out of the relationship. Because with people you really love and are compatible and comfortable with, this kind of remark would not bother you or make you feel put down, instead you would feel glad that the person has this kind of success and share their pride. Because, believe it or not, that type of person is never satiated. They will still be digging on you for years. You do not want to enable an addict....and this is a type of addiction. For normal people, it is loving and healthy to respond in kind and be happy for them.....not an emotional addict. violet |
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wk User ID: 60815610 United States 07/27/2014 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about just providing positive feedback. If he wants praise for being able to get up naturally with no alarm clock, why is it so hard to say sincerely, 'that's wonderful, good for you.' rather than take it as a personal put-down. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59895483 I do notice in myself that this kind of interaction bothers me with some but not with others, so I would say there is a basic incompatibility between the two of you, you aren't on a right wavelength with this person, and should get out of the relationship. Because with people you really love and are compatible and comfortable with, this kind of remark would not bother you or make you feel put down, instead you would feel glad that the person has this kind of success and share their pride. I think that many times when we feel put down (and then guilty for being over sensitive) it is because our subconscious knows there was an intention behind the words that was not good. The narcissist doesn't feel bad, but the other person feels uncomfortable and then guilty for feeling uncomfortable. violet |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60816059 Germany 07/27/2014 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A conversation as mundane as how you woke up this morning, or what you're wearing to church can turn awkward really quick and things can escalate to personal attacks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58520234 A few examples of what it's like to talk with these types of people: I went camping with a friend recently. I set my alarm for the next morning. After we both woke up he asked me how I woke up. Friend: Did your alarm clock wake you up this morning? Me: Yes, at 7:00 Friend: Well, I woke up naturally On the surface this might seems like an off-handed comment to make (that they simply woke up without an alarm clock). But when a narcissist says it, it's for a whole different reason: it provides an immediate ego boost and dose of dopamine, like how a drug addict gets a fix. They are CONSTANTLY comparing themselves to others and look for any ways possible to get their fix. When you don't provide them with their narcissistic supply, they will become maligned like that. And today was another boiling point. I usually dress up for church in a dress shirt and dress pants. He wears jeans and an untucked dress shirt. Fine, I never said a word. This morning, as I usually do, I threw on a pair of jean shorts and t-shirt this morning before eating breakfast. He approaches me and says "you can wear that to church if you want, you don't have to dress up". I said "I don't wear street clothes to church". And the conversation went sour really quick when he pointed out about how the bible doesn't say what to wear. ("Let's get ready to rummmmble!!!!!") Remember: almost everything a narcissist says actually has a twisted motive: to make them feel better about them selves and to make YOU feel bad about yourself. NEVER forget this. I should point out that most of the people at my church wear dress shirts and dress pants, not jeans. He took no hesitation to haughty point out how the bible doesn't say what to wear, at which point he made sure to add "as long as your don't wear baggy gym shorts". Now, any normal person would immediately see the logical flaw in this conversation...I shouldn't have to point it out. If the bible doesn't say what to wear, than why would it be wrong to wear anything you wanted? I simply said "I don't wear street clothes to church" and it was interpreted as a personal attack on him at which point he looked for ways in vain to criticize everyone but himself. Funny. You're judging your friend as a narcissist and saying "your mind has been raped" by simple disagreement. YOU sound like you have a log in your eye friend. Remove it. LOLOL right....... hes out there camping with his fan-dangled alarm clock doo hickey..going eee eee eee eee at 7am in the wilderness...more like a log jam.. birds of a feather flock together |
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pete User ID: 58912052 United States 07/27/2014 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You religious people blow my mind your the narcissist look at your self centered attitude .Some man died for you so you are not responsible for your action because your weak.And of really read the bible Christ never claimed to be the son of the worlds parasite gods. |
Spine monkey User ID: 39475233 United States 07/27/2014 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last year, seven of us left our jobs because of a narcissist and her sociopathic husband. Seven college professors left their jobs, six of them with tenure, to escape the toxic environment created by one person and her insatiable desire to be praised, lauded, applauded and generally kowtowed to. Narcissists cannot be cured. They cannot be changed. They cannot be converted to normalcy. They can only be avoided as assiduously as possible. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 58520234 United States 07/27/2014 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A conversation as mundane as how you woke up this morning, or what you're wearing to church can turn awkward really quick and things can escalate to personal attacks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58520234 A few examples of what it's like to talk with these types of people: I went camping with a friend recently. I set my alarm for the next morning. After we both woke up he asked me how I woke up. Friend: Did your alarm clock wake you up this morning? Me: Yes, at 7:00 Friend: Well, I woke up naturally On the surface this might seems like an off-handed comment to make (that they simply woke up without an alarm clock). But when a narcissist says it, it's for a whole different reason: it provides an immediate ego boost and dose of dopamine, like how a drug addict gets a fix. They are CONSTANTLY comparing themselves to others and look for any ways possible to get their fix. When you don't provide them with their narcissistic supply, they will become maligned like that. And today was another boiling point. I usually dress up for church in a dress shirt and dress pants. He wears jeans and an untucked dress shirt. Fine, I never said a word. This morning, as I usually do, I threw on a pair of jean shorts and t-shirt this morning before eating breakfast. He approaches me and says "you can wear that to church if you want, you don't have to dress up". I said "I don't wear street clothes to church". And the conversation went sour really quick when he pointed out about how the bible doesn't say what to wear. ("Let's get ready to rummmmble!!!!!") Remember: almost everything a narcissist says actually has a twisted motive: to make them feel better about them selves and to make YOU feel bad about yourself. NEVER forget this. I should point out that most of the people at my church wear dress shirts and dress pants, not jeans. He took no hesitation to haughty point out how the bible doesn't say what to wear, at which point he made sure to add "as long as your don't wear baggy gym shorts". Now, any normal person would immediately see the logical flaw in this conversation...I shouldn't have to point it out. If the bible doesn't say what to wear, than why would it be wrong to wear anything you wanted? I simply said "I don't wear street clothes to church" and it was interpreted as a personal attack on him at which point he looked for ways in vain to criticize everyone but himself. Funny. You're judging your friend as a narcissist and saying "your mind has been raped" by simple disagreement. YOU sound like you have a log in your eye friend. Remove it. LOLOL right....... hes out there camping with his fan-dangled alarm clock doo hickey..going eee eee eee eee at 7am in the wilderness...more like a log jam.. birds of a feather flock together To clarify, Were were "camping" in a trailer and it was the alarm clock on my cell phone. The point I was making is that this guy constantly seeks narcissistic supply. The whole spat about what we wore to church was a way for him to fish for compliments that his cloths were acceptable since subconsciously he must have felt inadequate since I was dresses more formal than him. This is how they think. It does not end. They need to keep their ego inflated. They start illogical, bizarre conversations all so they can eventually get a "you are so awesome!" response and when that fails they will "break up" internally and start projecting, and eventually gaslight YOU and make you feel bewildered. If you have no idea what I mean, then you have never experienced it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60817986 Germany 07/27/2014 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about just providing positive feedback. If he wants praise for being able to get up naturally with no alarm clock, why is it so hard to say sincerely, 'that's wonderful, good for you.' rather than take it as a personal put-down. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59895483 If it IS a put-down then one must take it as that. Everything else makes you sick in the end. If one brings the natural get up after inquiring for her get up in the first place, as a comparison "I am better than you" then it is a put down. They ask you "how did you do this?" - "Well, I can do this much better." One should never succumb to this game They use you for their ego. Permenantly - you can't change them, just RUN. |