Catholics - Can any of you defend praying to saints/confession with scripture.

it's all necromancy

Catholics believe there is only one, true God. They do not worship saints or Mary. 'Praying' to saints or Mary is asking for help with being a better person, a stronger Christian, assistance with some problem. They do not believe the saints ir Mary are God. There is only one, true God.

Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father


Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained. whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted to them; whose soever [sins] ye retain, they are retained.

Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. I assure you: Whatever you bind on earth is already bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth is already loosed in heaven.

James 5:16 - Confess [your] faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
KJV



Fundie, actually read your bible!


As for Mary and the Saints, we don't pray to them, but we do ask them to pray for us.

We don't worship them either.

OP you're an idiot. lol

Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

Confess your faults one to another,.... Which must be understood of sins committed against one another; which should be acknowledged, and repentance for them declared, in order to mutual forgiveness and reconciliation; and this is necessary at all times, and especially on beds of affliction, and when death and eternity seem near approaching: wherefore this makes nothing for auricular confession, used by the Papists; which is of all sins, whereas this is only of such by which men offend one another; that is made to priests, but this is made by the saints to one another, by the offending party to him that is offended, for reconciliation, whereby a good end is answered; whereas there is none by the other, and very often bad consequences follow.

I was told that as the Church grew and spread it adopted some of the pagan rituals of the place it was in .

I am not sure that all Catholics pray to Saints .

I think that Irish Catholics do.

This is different from confession. It could be bad with an unscrupulous priest but it was started perhaps to encourage people to examine their lives and to become better.

It is so much easier to notice other peoples faults than one's own. The plank in ones own...

It is good to examine one's conscience at the end of the day .It is a good habit to get into.

By the time the Protestants broke away the Church had fallen for many sins and vices....and was corrupted.

Your question is like me asking can you defend all the different versions of the bible that have been created with their different emphases?

When the Protestant were in power here they destroyed the statues and stained glass and made the churches plain and no Christmas or dancing and singing.

Ordinary people had no choice.

A bit like the ISIS now.

It is for God to judge these things .

We just have to do the best we can where and when we are born.

If it gives someone comfort to pray for help from someone they perceive to be good .Who are we to say they shouldn't?

They can't defend it. I confess my sins to God and he forgives me. I don't need a priest as my middle man. Jesus is my middle man. The catholic church is trying to step in place of Jesus. Mary worship is unbiblical, Papal infallibility is unbiblical, Priests being able to forgive sins is unbiblical, Repetitious rosary praying is unbiblical, infant baptism is unbiblical, celibacy of priests is unbiblical, indulgences are unbiblical, pergutory is most definitely unbiblical. The list goes on and on and on.

Anyone remaining in the catholic church must not be reading their bibles.

I am going to explain this to you so that you can understand it.
As a "Bible" person, you ask your brother/sisters or members of the church body to "pray for you or someone else" all the time.
The Catholic Church sees all who have ever lived in Christ as" one body, one spirit in Christ". So they view people who have been acknowledged as having led Christ-like lives as capable of intercessory prayer on your behalf, just like a Protestant, Bible believing Christian would ask a fellow "Saint" to pray for them.

all catholics will goto hell as they all love the pope john false idol guy

you said it, you own it. lol

Well I can mr retardation op

They ain't bound to the bible like
They bible quoting vapid

Thank u

And I sorry god
Have mercy on me or somnthng
He a kid or somethng

I sorry op
U religion is they best and I hope
Good thangs happen to u or Sonthng

Thank u

Why did God have priests within the nation of Israel?
Why was there a "scape-goat"?
Why do Protestants ask their pastors to pray for them and with them?

Are saints "dead"? If they are does that mean there is no eternal life?

To ask a saint to pray for you, like you would ask your Protestant Minister, would the saint have to be alive?

Before I sin, do I ask God for permission? Then after I sin, why should I confess it to God?

If I sin against someone, should I confess and apologize to them? How do I apologize if I can't find them? How do I apologize to mankind?

James 5:16

Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.

Why u not tending the sick and feeding the po
And saying tjanks god

They Jesus say that

No" get on conspiracy bode , type quoteson
U fat ass , and insult 45 trillion people's belief

U no know they bible vey much or
Somethng

Thank u

All are dead,

Resurrection has not happened!!!!!!!

They see me twistin', they hatin' ...







Nowhere in that verse does it tell you to pray to another instead of the Lord.

If a saint isn't "dead" and is alive in Heaven, who is more alive, the Protestant Minister or the saint in Heaven next to God?

Who gets the prayer to God faster, the saint in Heaven, with no sin or the Protestant Minister on earth with sin?

Catholics don't pray to saints but we do often ask for help, etc from God in the name of a saint

Still dumb people make mistakes all the time and there's lots of Catholics that don't know the difference

Everything is an avatar of God..

But if you insist on having a central object while praying then it can be a candle, a rock, a flower and it will still count as God.

A central object is often needed while praying or meditating in order to help you clear your mind and focus, so you can really use anything that makes you comfortable.

Ladies and gentlemen its The Catholic Bashing Hour, get your daily licks in, to most the Church is a doormat or punching bag.

no doubt a data mining thread to be used in future bans. lol

nope, prayer is to be directed to God through Jesus Christ, his only begotten son.

false

I think its a jewish conspiracy!! lol

Revelation 20:4-6 KJV

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

unfortunately that seems to be the case these days. On top of that those doing the bashing are often pushing false filth such as cosmology.

yes, most definitely a jewish conspiracy!! lol

I say we proclaim Jesus on all jewish threads!!! lol