WHY STAR TREK TOS IS STILL SO ADDICTIVE????

I love Star Trek in all its incarnations. We are just unfortunate to be in the mirror universe!

The Next Gen. for me.

Some episodes were lame, but overall ... dayum. Great show

"The Prisoner", "Coronet Blue" and "Then Came Bronson": a classic trilogy of shows. Maybe 100 episodes altogether if that.

So much better than the garbage spit out today

Star Trek TOS is not history, it is ongoing today! Here's part 2 of Mirror, Mirror. This shit is brilliant!




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The fandom is doing a lot of great stuff, with their own means and a lot of enthusiasm and creativity, of course. But I would like to make some revisitation on the TOS through your own memories and impressions

Indeed, then they were experimenting and making history with that narrative-creative médium so filled with so much artistic potential

I grew up watching the reruns. I enjoyed it very much, and it became a part of my life and history. Each episode was conducted with the seriousness and regulatory discipline of a military operation. The space exploration aspect was always at the forefront, with drama between characters mostly remaining secondary.

I was very pleased when TNG was announced, and looked forward to it. I found it extremely disappointing because it seemed much more focused on the lives and drama of the characters, as well as comedy relief. The actual space exploration aspect seemed little more than an afterthought, a sub-plot a backdrop.

For me this took away the heart of what Star Trek was supposed to be about.

TNG put a bad taste in my mouth for all the other Star Trek spinoffs to come, and I've been indifferent to all of them.

Now the fan-based episodes, one which I linked one above, they've got everything that was appealing to TOS nailed and spot-on. They almost brought tears to my eyes when I first watched them!

Yes and a nice COTUS episode where a Nazi dude escaped to another planet and restarted the Nazi thing.

"Actually one of the most efficient political systems, if brutal." - Spock, who gives the Jewish Kohen Priest greeting with his hands, analyzing the Nazi ethos.

yes it is isnt it?

one of favs: THE ULTIMATE COMPUTER: THE M-5 MULTITRONIC UNIT

The M-5 computer or the M-5 multitronic unit was created by Doctor Richard Daystrom, the father of Multitronics. It utilized very sophisticated technology, probably similar to the Human neural network, and much more sophisticated than the duotronic computer commonly in use at the time. According to Dr. Daystrom, the computer could think and reason like a Human. He had used his own memory engrams as a model for the computer. Models M-1 through M-4 were not entirely successful.

M-5 was installed on board the USS Enterprise in 2268 as a test of its capabilities. It was due to command and control the ship during several battle simulations, where up to four other starships would attack the Enterprise. Manned with only a skeleton crew of twenty, the ship was completely run by the computer.

The unit was located in main engineering, and tapped directly into the ship's main power grid. When requiring more power, it would shut down unnecessary systems, including life support on decks without crewmembers.

During battle drills, the computer's self-preservation instinct became dominant, resulting in the destruction of the robot ship Woden and the deaths of several hundred Starfleet officers when it destroyed the USS Excalibur.

The senior crew attempted to cut off the computer from the ship's controls, but M-5 rerouted command functions through new data lines, and kept sending false signals through the original ones. The computer could also generate a force field around itself, effectively preventing anyone from coming near it.

Captain James T. Kirk made the computer self-destruct by asking it if it was right to kill another being. M-5 said that it was a crime against the laws of Man and God, and, believing that such a crime was punishable by death, deactivated itself. (TOS: "The Ultimate Computer")

Here in Spain in the 60s we enjoyed some TV Scifi classics like "Lost in Space" or "The Invaders", but for ST-TOS it wasn't until the 70s during the democratic transition after the Franco's regime. ST-TOS wasn't programmed until then because its hardcore humanistic view and the permanent clash of democracy vs dictatorships across the universe, lol. ST-TOS was translated as "La Conquista del espacio" and was emited with latinamerican voices. The almost mayority of tv sets in the country then was in glorious B&W. To see today the restored color quality of TOS is a marvel, admiring the high mastership of those technical artisans of then with lights, color and sets (and very low production values, working virtually only with their creativity and four cheap things. TOS is a treasure for so much concepts...

Such a goofy episode but would make a totally rad movie.

TOS is so bizarre for so many concepts... Those guys had balls playing with the political correctness, actually

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Great story, and not one of the usually favorites. Actually I can't remember any episode objectively deserving of the "mediocrity" label

TOS is so bizarre for so many concepts... Those guys had balls playing with the political correctness, actually
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star trek was bizarre in that it funcitioned sort of like the new world order, a mass of contradictions and lies


LIE #1) mission is one of peace

*involved in more space wars than one could count; motto, just like the NWO, we can save ppl by killing them

LIE #2) willing to trade with ohter planets and non interference

*all they did was interfere. free trade? suppose they needed dilithium crystals for ship fuel. either trade with them for it, or they would take it. capt. krik: "..we could just take it if we wanted to..."

star trek philosophty was just a mass of lies and contradictions

M-5 was installed on board the USS Enterprise in 2268 as a test of its capabilities.
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guess we're not too far away, eh........

I guess TOS was reflecting consciously or not the dilemmas and contradictions of "the american empire" in the 60s. By other way, the verbatim application of the PRIME DIRECTIVE... would leave us without adventures.

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because it is the most awesome series ever!!!!!!
I feel the same way about TNG as well - it was made in the late 80's, but every episode is just so timeless - doesnt matter how far we have come in entertainment, you just cant improve upon it !

Mooooo!

Some leaks (?) of the retro-future (for us) are really funny. Remember, for example, that Khan cames under hibernation from the 90s...

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yay! my thoughts exactly. Though I dont think there were all that many lame episodes. In seven years of episodes, there are only a handful i was not interested in watching again. Mainly the klingon heavy episodes.
It was the most perfect tv series ever made!

Mooo!

However, I never felt hooked on the Picard's stuff... And, like with another noble enterprises (lol) like Babylon 5, I simply felt... asleep.

fair enough! They were very different captains, after all, lol. I think I just identified very strongly with Picard and the way he thought and reasoned and led the crew. It was all very...me. Not that in real life I could ever be so eloquent, haha. But I think if Picard was a real person he would have been a dear friend, we just shared a common outlook on things. Or perhaps I just learned to be who I am because of his example. Kirk was too flamboyant for me (much as i loved him). I did not relate as well to that kind of character. In TOS I identified most with Spock, lol.

The personal charisma of the fusión actor/charácter is very strong. Patrick Stewart is a wonderful actor but THE SHAT is simply must see/listen and believe it or not. His is a METAPERFORMANCE (lol), and to see and hear at that young, athletic and zany Shatner today is a treasure.

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oh I do adore Shatner!! He is a legend, probably the best thing to come out of canada!!

LOL The Shat is Patrimony of Humanity. I love him.

BOLDLY

The Shat is larger than life and it will be a sad day for humanity when he dies.

Denny Crane!!!

i don't like black women. sorry

You're right. It's curious that The Shat, Nimoy, Armstrong, Aldrin & Collins are/were dudes from the same generation.

Nimoy is simply great, I admire him very much as artist, but The Shat is The Shat.