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Russian Orthodox Christianity is mostly a fairy tale

 
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Russian Orthodox Christianity is mostly a fairy tale
Russians' orthodoxy in numbers:
59% have never read any Christian text including the New Testament
63% never took communion
41% never prayed
32% never entered a church

The number of Russians who identify themselves as Orthodox may have risen from 52 percent in 1997 to 68 percent in 2014, but according to a poll carried out by Public Opinion Foundation, fewer people go to church now than before.
The poll, which was conducted in a total number of 100 towns, cities and villages across 43 regions in Russia and it included 1,500 respondents, also revealed that 19 percent Russians identify themselves as non-religious. According to the recent survey, only 13 percent of all Orthodox Russians go to church regularly, take communion, know church prayers and read them on a daily basis.
When asked how often they go to church, 32 percent respondents said they have never been to one, 19 percent said they go to church several times a year, 18 percent said they go to church once or twice a year, 14 percent said they go to church less than once a year and 8 percent said they go to church on a monthly basis.
When asked how often they take communion, 63 percent respondents said they have never done it. Eventually, when the respondents were asked if they pray or no, 41 percent said they never have.
The study also revealed that 59 percent Russians have never read any Christian text including the New Testament.
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they are bunch of Christian hooligans
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they are bunch of Christian hooligans
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No, the hooligans pretending to be Christians are not Christians, so you can't call them Christian hooligans!
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08/05/2014 11:24 AM
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Re: Russian Orthodox Christianity is mostly a fairy tale
but they sure build pretty false temples
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The Russian church is mosty women and baba's who are preying for deliverance from their brutal drunkard husbands or their adult male offspring.
Brutality and abominable behaviour is a Russian trait, they worship power and the church has been a \State instrument which cooperated with every despot, monarch and commissar presented them.
Theres not one instance of the official Church speaking out against official brutality.
They are a subversive organ preaching passivity and obedience to whatever antiChrist that comes along.
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Re: Russian Orthodox Christianity is mostly a fairy tale
they are bunch of Christian hooligans
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They aren't Christians, Christians are described as those intentionally following Jesus and his teachings.

Christianity isnt honourary or hereditary.
It's revokable too.
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Re: Russian Orthodox Christianity is mostly a fairy tale
you misspelled the title let me fix it for you:

Christianity is mostly a fairy tale

fixt
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For 40 Years, This Russian Family Was Cut Off From All Human Contact, Unaware of World War II

In 1978, Soviet geologists prospecting in the wilds of Siberia discovered a family of six, lost in the taiga

The sight that greeted the geologists as they entered the cabin was like something from the middle ages. Jerry-built from whatever materials came to hand, the dwelling was not much more than a burrow—”a low, soot-blackened log kennel that was as cold as a cellar,” with a floor consisting of potato peel and pine-nut shells. Looking around in the dim light, the visitors saw that it consisted of a single room. It was cramped, musty and indescribably filthy, propped up by sagging joists—and, astonishingly, home to a family of five:

The silence was suddenly broken by sobs and lamentations. Only then did we see the silhouettes of two women. One was in hysterics, praying: ‘This is for our sins, our sins.’ The other, keeping behind a post… sank slowly to the floor. The light from the little window fell on her wide, terrified eyes, and we realized we had to get out of there as quickly as possible.

After about half an hour, the door of the cabin creaked open, and the old man and his two daughters emerged—no longer hysterical and, though still obviously frightened, “frankly curious.” Warily, the three strange figures approached and sat down with their visitors, rejecting everything that they were offered—jam, tea, bread—with a muttered, “We are not allowed that!” When Pismenskaya asked, “Have you ever eaten bread?” the old man answered: “I have. But they have not. They have never seen it.” At least he was intelligible. The daughters spoke a language distorted by a lifetime of isolation. “When the sisters talked to each other, it sounded like a slow, blurred cooing.”
Slowly, over several visits, the full story of the family emerged. The old man’s name was Karp Lykov, and he was an Old Believer–a member of a fundamentalist Russian Orthodox sect, worshiping in a style unchanged since the 17th century. Old Believers had been persecuted since the days of Peter the Great, and Lykov talked about it as though it had happened only yesterday; for him, Peter was a personal enemy and “the anti-Christ in human form”—a point he insisted had been amply proved by Tsar’s campaign to modernize Russia by forcibly “chopping off the beards of Christians.”
Things had only got worse for the Lykov family when the atheist Bolsheviks took power. Under the Soviets, isolated Old Believer communities that had fled to Siberia to escape persecution began to retreat ever further from civilization. During the purges of the 1930s, with Christianity itself under assault, a Communist patrol had shot Lykov’s brother on the outskirts of their village while Lykov knelt working beside him. He had responded by scooping up his family and bolting into forest.
That was in 1936, and there were only four Lykovs then—Karp; his wife, Akulina; a son named Savin, 9 years old, and Natalia, a daughter who was only 2. Taking their possessions and some seeds, they had retreated ever deeper into the taiga, building themselves a succession of crude dwelling places, until at last they had fetched up in this desolate spot. Two more children had been born in the wild—Dmitry in 1940 and Agafia in 1943—and neither of the youngest Lykov children had ever seen a human being who was not a member of their family. All that Agafia and Dmitry knew of the outside world they learned entirely from their parents’ stories.
Their only reading matter was prayer books and an ancient family Bible. Akulina had used the gospels to teach her children to read and write, using sharpened birch sticks dipped into honeysuckle juice as pen and ink. When Agafia was shown a picture of a horse, she recognized it from her mother’s Bible stories. “Look, papa,” she exclaimed. “A steed!”
They fashioned birch-bark galoshes in place of shoes. Clothes were patched and repatched until they fell apart, then replaced with hemp cloth grown from seed.
By the time the Lykovs were discovered, their staple diet was potato patties mixed with ground rye and hemp seeds.
“Beside the dwelling ran a clear, cold stream. Stands of larch, spruce, pine and birch yielded all that anyone could take.… Bilberries and raspberries were close to hand, firewood as well, and pine nuts fell right on the roof.”

Yet the Lykovs lived permanently on the edge of famine. It was not until the late 1950s, when Dmitry reached manhood, that they first trapped animals for their meat and skins. Lacking guns and even bows, they could hunt only by digging traps or pursuing prey across the mountains until the animals collapsed from exhaustion. Dmitry built up astonishing endurance, and could hunt barefoot in winter, sometimes returning to the hut after several days, having slept in the open in 40 degrees of frost, a young elk across his shoulders. More often than not, though, there was no meat, and their diet gradually became more monotonous. Wild animals destroyed their crop of carrots, and Agafia recalled the late 1950s as “the hungry years.” “We ate the rowanberry leaf,” she said,
roots, grass, mushrooms, potato tops, and bark. We were hungry all the time. Every year we held a council to decide whether to eat everything up or leave some for seed.
Famine was an ever-present danger in these circumstances, and in 1961 it snowed in June. The hard frost killed everything growing in their garden, and by spring the family had been reduced to eating shoes and bark. Akulina chose to see her children fed, and that year she died of starvation. The rest of the family were saved by what they regarded as a miracle: a single grain of rye sprouted in their pea patch. The Lykovs put up a fence around the shoot and guarded it zealously night and day to keep off mice and squirrels. At harvest time, the solitary spike yielded 18 grains, and from this they painstakingly rebuilt their rye crop.
Of all the Lykovs, though, the geologists’ favorite was Dmitry, a consummate outdoorsman who knew all of the taiga’s moods. He was the most curious and perhaps the most forward-looking member of the family. It was he who had built the family stove, and all the birch-bark buckets that they used to store food. It was also Dmitry who spent days hand-cutting and hand-planing each log that the Lykovs felled.
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After the reforms of Patriarch Nikon to the Russian Orthodox Church of 1652, a large number of Old Believers held that czar Peter the Great was the Antichrist[45] because of his treatment of the Orthodox Church, namely subordinating the church to the state, requiring clergymen to conform to the standards of all Russian civilians (shaved beards, being fluent in French), and requiring them to pay state taxes.
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Re: Russian Orthodox Christianity is mostly a fairy tale
.....russian orthodox is what established catholicism as a whole looked like around 300 ad or so.........yoda
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Re: Russian Orthodox Christianity is mostly a fairy tale
you misspelled the title let me fix it for you:

Christianity is mostly a fairy tale

fixt
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61220402
You made a huge error there. Let me fix it for you:

Anti-Christianity is completely a fairy tale.
[Whereas *actual* Christianity is validated by historic, scientific, and logical evidence, unlike atheism or New Age stupidity.]

*Fixed.

Honestly, the most superstitious idiots I've ever encountered are deluded anti-Christians like you who believe every little rumor they read about Christianity online in an irrational, childish attempt to justify their willful ignorance. It reeks of desperation and self-doubt on the anti-Christians' part. Example: all the anti-Christian retards who unquestioningly believe that completely fabricated and thoroughly debunked pseudo-documentary "Zeitgeist" by Peter Joseph Moreno.
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Re: Russian Orthodox Christianity is mostly a fairy tale
Its a small flock...great grandparents used to be old believers
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The Russian church is mosty women and baba's who are preying for deliverance from their brutal drunkard husbands or their adult male offspring.
Brutality and abominable behaviour is a Russian trait, they worship power and the church has been a \State instrument which cooperated with every despot, monarch and commissar presented them.
Theres not one instance of the official Church speaking out against official brutality.
They are a subversive organ preaching passivity and obedience to whatever antiChrist that comes along.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51160787


Nice troll ;)
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Re: Russian Orthodox Christianity is mostly a fairy tale
Nonetheless, many of its followers have proven to be people of great stoicism and integrity.

What we might call "fairy tales" give others a sense of traditional values and great vibrancy of life in face of hardship.

It's not our place to judge what gets others through the dark night, so long as it harms no others.
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Yeah, bla bla and what is your point Rom? That's right you have no point other than sounding like a whining wounded jew....
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Fairy tales or not - it is what is being used as one of the primary markers of the new Eurasian identity on which the resurrected Russian empire is being forged - Putin being 'gods annointed Tzar' - they regard themselves as the 'Third Rome' and I believ that when the pope is forced to flee Rome he will be heading straight to Moscow to merge the Orthodox and Catholic churches.
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Russians' orthodoxy in numbers:
59% have never read any Christian text including the New Testament
63% never took communion
41% never prayed
32% never entered a church

The number of Russians who identify themselves as Orthodox may have risen from 52 percent in 1997 to 68 percent in 2014, but according to a poll carried out by Public Opinion Foundation, fewer people go to church now than before.
The poll, which was conducted in a total number of 100 towns, cities and villages across 43 regions in Russia and it included 1,500 respondents, also revealed that 19 percent Russians identify themselves as non-religious. According to the recent survey, only 13 percent of all Orthodox Russians go to church regularly, take communion, know church prayers and read them on a daily basis.
When asked how often they go to church, 32 percent respondents said they have never been to one, 19 percent said they go to church several times a year, 18 percent said they go to church once or twice a year, 14 percent said they go to church less than once a year and 8 percent said they go to church on a monthly basis.
When asked how often they take communion, 63 percent respondents said they have never done it. Eventually, when the respondents were asked if they pray or no, 41 percent said they never have.
The study also revealed that 59 percent Russians have never read any Christian text including the New Testament.
[link to www.atheistrepublic.com]
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The Russian church has always aligned itself with any monster ruling Russia.
There is no evident Christianity visible coming from the Russian church. It's just another state organ of control.
They are directly aligned with the Russian military essentially as a propaganda organ to sanction invasions primarily against competing Christian organizations in neighbouring countries. The only reason Chechnya was attacked by Russian was not for it's Islamism but in its attempts to establish an independent breakaway state.
For those of you unlearned in philosophy of religions you should be aware that most religions are theocracies and force control on the public. There is no official organization established by the New Testament so no self proclaimed official churches are valid and none are sanctioned to use force to control Christians or others.

Most all of the Churches claiming authority over others with govt sanction are in fact built on an old testament theocratic model and that's in direct contradiction to the express teaching of the one these churches claim to represent.
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The Russian church is mosty women and baba's who are preying for deliverance from their brutal drunkard husbands or their adult male offspring.
Brutality and abominable behaviour is a Russian trait, they worship power and the church has been a \State instrument which cooperated with every despot, monarch and commissar presented them.
Theres not one instance of the official Church speaking out against official brutality.
They are a subversive organ preaching passivity and obedience to whatever antiChrist that comes along.
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Nice troll ;)
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Trolling is intentionally pushing a lie in contradiction of all the evidence.

That makes you the troll.
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I'm not sure what some expect in a country long ruled by a feudal system supported by the church, where the individual was powerless over his own life, to a system oppressing all religious belief and any sort of rights, to a more modern system where rights are not applied equally and the church gets some of its old rights of oppression restored. I think Putin only embraced the church to try to get some Russian cultural respect back.

How would it go here (or anywhere) if we became a state where the government bowed to the clergy? We see it plane as day in Islamic countries. There is nothing wrong with traditions and religious beliefs as long as it is not used to control and oppress people.

The clergy (of any belief) are not beyond corruption. With power comes corruption. When the clergy become unquestionable abuse follows.

How would you feel if you were required to register your religious belief, required to donate wages, required to attend services and threatened with harm for not doing so? Yet some people in the US and many other countries give this power to their churches and do everything the clergy demands.

A lot of more successful sects of Christianity find success in telling people what they want to hear; a perverse entertainment especially enjoyed by those who feel powerless.

When the United States was created only certain religious sects were allowed. These laws were created by the state. In some states only you could only be Episcopal, Catholic or Jewish. Jews were restricted in many areas from land ownership until the equal rights bill became law. Catholics in many areas were considered corrupt by nature of their faith. In some states if you were not Baptist success in business and employment was very limited. The Constitution allowed people to believe as they wanted but as long as the clergy was powerful religious freedom didn't really exist.

Russia has a long history of religious oppression. The old monarchy supported intolerance supported by the Orthodox Church. The Soviets supported intolerance supported by the idea of atheistic beliefs. And now the new Russia supports intolerance again supported by the Orthodox Church.
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