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Christians, who belongs to the true church of Christ?

 
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The church of Christ is not
an externally recognizable building,
it is only the union of profoundly
believing people who are in most
intimate contact with the founder
of the church, with Jesus Christ.

Secular organization's who claim
to be the church of Christ on earth,
generally just represent the outward
appearance and not its essence.… They
indeed teach the Word of Christ,
nevertheless only living faith gives
God’s Word the right meaning and the
right value to the human soul.

And this living faith can exist in
every clerical organization but it can
also be absent from it, however, only
the human being who calls this living
faith his own is a follower of His church.

Anyone with a right and living faith,
which is the result of a life of love, will
also know the truth, because the fire of
love emanates the light of truth…. And he
will also discern between divine and
human teachings.... he will more and
more let the divine teachings become
the principle of his life and ignore
the human teachings….


The church of Christ no longer numbers many
followers, and the more love grows cold
amongst people the smaller the flock of
true Christians will become, because love
must definitely be practiced in order for
people to be regarded as true Christians
and to provide a fellow human being with
a shining example of the true church on earth.

It does not require any official affiliation
with a denomination but only a life according
to the divine commandments, which first of all
l call for love, but which then will also
exhibit the certain characteristic that
demonstrates the founder of the church...
Amen


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Last Edited by Pistis Sophia on 08/12/2014 01:49 PM

1 Corinthians 13
If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.

If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing.

If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing.
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Why is your picture a woman holding her hand covering one eye?

You preach of Christ yet show signs of the occult/devil worship?

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True, it was the Romans Catholics who built the churches. Not Holy Qumran, nor Coptic, neither Christianity.

"Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you?" - Corinthians 3:16
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There is no Church, only followers.
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There is no Church, only followers.
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You follow him, or not. Everyone´s personal choice
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Why is your picture a woman holding her hand covering one eye?

You preach of Christ yet show signs of the occult/devil worship?

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It is one of my paintings and it depicts human suffering. As Jesus said if you want to share in the glory you also will in the suffering. Many awaken through suffering.

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1 Corinthians 13
If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.

If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing.

If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing.
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Why is your picture a woman holding her hand covering one eye?

You preach of Christ yet show signs of the occult/devil worship?

waitwhat
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And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Mark 9:47
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There is no Church, only followers.
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"The true church of Christ is not an externally recognizable building"

1 Corinthians 13
If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.

If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing.

If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing.
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join the catholic church or go to hell, your call
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join the catholic church or go to hell, your call
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Run from the catholic church

Revelation 17

Babylon, the Prostitute on the Beast

17 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters. 2 With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.”

3 Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5 The name written on her forehead was a mystery:


babylon the great

the mother of prostitutes

and of the abominations of the earth.

6 I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.

When I saw her, I was greatly astonished. 7 Then the angel said to me: “Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come.

9 “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while. 11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.

12 “The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13 They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. 14 They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

15 Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages. 16 The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled. 18 The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”
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John 6:53 - Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

"Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day." [John 6:54]

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go find your beast somewhere else,

i have told you the truth, if you want salvation but cannot forgive the catholic church you can still receive the Eucharist at an orthodox church
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go find your beast somewhere else,

i have told you the truth, if you want salvation but cannot forgive the catholic church you can still receive the Eucharist at an orthodox church
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Find love in your own heart first.

Good Samaritan

1 Corinthians 13
If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.

If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing.

If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing.
:pic 16:
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join the catholic church or go to hell, your call
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Run from the catholic church

Revelation 17

Babylon, the Prostitute on the Beast

17 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters. 2 With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.”

3 Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5 The name written on her forehead was a mystery:


babylon the great

the mother of prostitutes

and of the abominations of the earth.

6 I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.

When I saw her, I was greatly astonished. 7 Then the angel said to me: “Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come.

9 “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while. 11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.

12 “The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13 They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. 14 They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

15 Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages. 16 The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled. 18 The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”
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The kingdom of God forms within a person not within a church. axe at the tree What is in your heart?


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1 Corinthians 13
If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.

If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing.

If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing.
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So let me ask you and your message of love. Before Jesus Christ returns to this Earth, WHAT MUST HAPPEN?
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Cheat Sheet

The Universe is practice and it is virtual
The ego consciousness is separate from the self
We as spiritual beings came here by contract to learn and evolve
Who we were to be born to and the general lessons we were to take from our lives was entered into through the willing acceptance of a contract, the details of which are intentionally hidden from the ego consciousness so we could learn and take our experience seriously
The Self, controlling the ego, creates our experience for the conscious observer
The ego appears to have control but the self retains control in all things
We as spiritual beings are therefore protected from anything the ego gets itself into
The ego needs to step back and allow the observer an unfettered view of the events and lessons the self creates for it
Operating in the ego only will mean a series of negative reinforcement
The self is the “Holy Spirit” or the spirit within us
Operating in the Self
One must know that the Universe is practice and one must understand that we came here to learn and the fastest way to learn is to make mistakes
One must overcome the fear of facing the uncomfortable experiences that they have amassed through the course of their life instead of allowing the ego to repress the memories
Our “negative” characteristics and memories must be introspectively investigated such that we can learn the positive lesson from these negative experiences, otherwise the Self will force us to relive and relearn the lesson over and over
Until this “negative” content is purged it serves as an obstacle to the proper contact with the Self
One must forgive themselves for their errors and shortcomings because we must remember we came here specifically to fail
The Self allows the Ego to create suffering, pain and stress to focus our attention on the lessons we must learn and they serve a perfectly logical and good purpose
When we create a victim by the violation of law then power is marshaled against us by the Supreme Authority to make the victim whole at the perpetrators expense. This is the source of negative consequences in our lives
Sovereignty
Is a recognition by the Supreme Authority that a man or woman owns their body and takes full responsibility for their actions and the events that occur to them in their lives
The Supreme Authority has no reason to dialog with a man or woman who is not responsible for themselves
Sovereignty is a gift granted by the Supreme Authority and cannot be received without tangible notification made to the man or woman desiring the gift
Sovereignty and ownership of one’s body as property come with rights, and more importantly, responsibility for one’s conduct and as such it is granted through contract
The granting of Sovereignty must be willingly asked for as the Granting Authority will not force the contract into existence that instantiates one’s sovereignty
Sovereignty will not be granted if one does not understand the law required to protect one’s sovereignty
The Law Of Contract
All real enforceable contracts must contain the following.(Enforceable means power will be used in its execution and the binding to terms)
An offer - One has to first solicit
An Acceptance - Another has to accept the offer
An Exchange of Consideration - One does something if another does something
A Meeting of the Minds - A contract must be between two minds. A piece of paper is only documentation and by itself is not a contract even though it may say that it is
Real enforcement of contracts are administered as follows:
All contracts are verbal
A man´s word is their bond
A man has the unlimited right to contract
A man cannot be compelled to relinquish his rights but can, through confusion, be tricked into voluntarily relinquishing his rights or be enslaved
ALL CONTRACTS ARE VOLUNTARY! A man cannot be forced into a contract. A forced agreement will be ignored by Ø and no power will be marshaled to enforce the terms
ALL CONTRACTS ARE BUYER BEWARE! A man is responsible for knowing what they are getting himself into
Under law if the parties begin acting like a contract is in force then it it presumed a contract indeed exists. If you act like you are bound to contract the Supreme Authority treats it as if you are bound to a contract. It does not mean an actual contract is in force it means it appears just like a contract is in force if we do not know any better. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck then it is a duck.
Other Law
The created is never more powerful than its creator
Ignorance of the real law is no excuse
Those who are not in possession of all their faculties or have turned away from Ø are under real law to be judged incompetent and subject to the prevailing authority.
Holy Grail – When the Supreme Authority notifies the man or woman seeking their sovereignty they can make contract with this Authority by speaking the following: “I will trust you without condition if you remove from me my ability to create a victim.”

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Yes , OP the Church is invisible made up of some from all denominations . Jesus is everthing to them .
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So let me ask you and your message of love. Before Jesus Christ returns to this Earth, WHAT MUST HAPPEN?
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Hope this will answer your question. He will return through His disciples first, in a time of great distress as never being seen before on earth.

The following is a prophesy taken from a book called "The Advent of
Christ" By Jacob Lorber (1800-1864) and Gottfried Mayerhofer (1807-1877)

On the occasion of My Second Coming, I shall not again be born as a
child somewhere of a women, for My body remains transfigured as do I
in eternity., and so I shall not ever again need another body like the
one I have now on earth. First I shall come invisibly in the 'clouds
of heaven which means to say: I shall first approach humanity through
true seers, wise men and newly awakened prophets. And in those days
also maidens will prophesy and young men will have clairvoyant dreams
announcing My advent. Many will listen to them and mend their ways,
but the world will call them mad fanatics and not believe them, as was
also the case with the prophets.

"Thus I will, from time to time, awaken persons to whom I will
dictate, through their heart, all that is now, during My presence here
happening and being discussed. The people in those days, almost all of
whom will be able to read and write, will be able to read and also
understand the new books. This way of spreading My teaching from the
heavens, given anew and uncontaminated, will then make it possible to
reach people all over the earth much faster and more effectively than
is possible now through messengers in My name, by word of mouth.

"When in this way My teaching will have been brought to the people of
good will and active faith, and at least one third of humanity will
know of it, then I will also, here and there, come personally and
physically visible to those who love Me most, are longing for My
return and will have a fully living faith(live a life of love). And I Myself shall form of
them communities which no power in the world will be able to resist.
For I shall be their commander-in-chief, their forever invincible
Hero, and shall judge all the dead and blind world lings. Thus I am
going to cleanse the earth from its ancient filth.

"At the time of the new seers and prophets, however, there will be
great misery and distress among the people as has never before been
the case on this earth. But for the sake of My elect this will be only
of short duration, so that they do not come to grief in their progress
towards salvation. However, in this land where I am now being
persecuted like a criminal by the Jews of the temple, from one place
to another, and which at that time will be trampled underfoot by the
darkest heathens, I shall not at first appear personally. But in the
lands of another continent which at present is inhabited by heathens,
I shall establish a new kingdom of peace, harmony, love and lasting,
living faith. There will no longer be any fear of the death of the
body among men who walk in My light and will be in constant contact
with the angels of heaven.

"The earth is Mine everywhere, and I know where My return will be most
effective for all the earth. But in those days, when people will be
able to communicate with each other from one end of the earth to the
other with lightning speed and, by making use of the spirits bound in
the fire and water, will be able to travel across the longest
stretches of the earth faster than the greatest storm and when also
ships, by means of the same forces, will cross the ocean in the
shortest time, - it will be possible to easily spread the news of My
personal return within a very short time over the entire earth, also
to Asia.

"But there remains the question: Will the news be believed by the
blind and deaf heathens of this continent? I should say: Hardly, until
it will have been cleansed through a great universal judgment!

"There is a vast land in the far west, which is on all sides
surrounded by oceans and does not anywhere connect with the old world
above water. From this land the people will first be hearing
great things and these will also appear in the west of Europe. The
result will be a bright radiating and reflecting: the lights of heaven
will meet and support each other. Out of these lights, the sun of life
will be forming which is the new, perfect Jerusalem, and in this sun I
shall return to earth. The visible heaven and this earth will
eventually pass away, but My words which I have spoken to you will not
pass!"


Last Edited by Pistis Sophia on 08/12/2014 01:52 PM

1 Corinthians 13
If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.

If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing.

If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing.
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Yes , OP the Church is invisible made up of some from all denominations . Jesus is everthing to them .
 Quoting: fullfaith


Not just "in all dominations" but all walks of life. You will find many of his true children outside of church or any religion.

All God asked Good Samaritan

1 Corinthians 13
If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.

If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing.

If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing.
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join the catholic church or go to hell, your call
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Obama, is that you?

The Catholic Church? The church that keeps Christ on the Cross, are you kidding?

If you think the Catholic church is the true church, you're lost, sir.

Read Revelation 17 for revelation, no pun intended.

So, is the Pope (the false prophet) the real God, that man of vague doctrine, who has confused the world?

The Catholic church is nothing more than counterfeit Christianity poised to usher in the coming Sunday law, and the anti-Christ who ultimately crush it out of existence..

The same church that has molested a multitude of children for centuries, and now has been given the right to have so called consensual sex with boys (& girls) over 10 years of age. Research this now fact yourself....


The same church that goes after non-paying tithers with a fierceness that makes the IRS look like pre-school in Europe.

The same church that worships Mary (or really Constantine and his mother)?

The same church that keeps its follower's confessions bound on earth as they confess them before men. Obviously this church forgot or ignored the veil being torn, as Christ died, rose and now intercedes for us before the Father.

That Catholic Church?

No, sir...accept Christ and the true Church.

No mitre hats, or fallen halos (priests collars)there....
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Yes , OP the Church is invisible made up of some from all denominations . Jesus is everthing to them .
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Denominations? That's man's thing...

Yes, Christ is everything...he died for a wretch like yourself, and me.

"Without God, all tings are permissible." - Dostoevsky
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Why is your picture a woman holding her hand covering one eye?

You preach of Christ yet show signs of the occult/devil worship?

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2into1
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True, it was the Romans Catholics who built the churches. Not Holy Qumran, nor Coptic, neither Christianity.

"Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you?" - Corinthians 3:16
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How can gods spirit dwell inside someone? if his spirit is the spirit of truth and love then obviously it isn't inside anyone
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Peace, Pistus Sophia.

You began in a very good place, and I don't know how far you've progressed: a good ways, I suspect.

Christology is difficult with Greek or English terminology.

Names are of utmost importance in the Hebrew scriptures: they're the gateway to vast subtexts of the narratives that satisfy or discourage many readers.

The Hebrew name for the Greek Ieosus is Y'Shua, which is Joshua in English; but as it happened, Ieosus became Hesu, became Jesu, became Jesus. The name of the man is not so important, as the man said that he came in his Father's name, not his own.

Y'Shua is the name of the Joshua who served Moses. Just once, however, Moses referred to Joshua as Yahushua (Jehoshua, KJV). This is very significant. Yahushua is the name of a Spirit; Y'Shua is a man's name. Literally, Yahushua means, "the Salvation of Yah."

So when Jesus/Joshua/Y'Shua said he came in his Father's name, he was saying that he came in the name of Yahushua, the Salvation of Yah; for Yahushua is the projection/son of Yah. No man has seen Yah at any time or heard his voice. The only begotten Yahushua has declared him, in that he is Yah's projection into created realms.

This is why Jesus (the man) said to people looking directly at him, "If you had seen me, you had seen the Father, also." It is also why the apostles said, of the man Y'Shua, that in him they saw the fullness of the Godhead, bodily. They understood that Yahushua was not obstructed in the man Y'Shua, who overcame the distortions of the flesh in the wilderness before he began his ministry.

This is also why Y'Shua said, "I, of myself, can do nothing: the Father does the works"; and "the words I speak are the Father's words."

A son is a projection of the father. So, also is Yahushua the only begotten son/projection of Yah, the beginning of Creation, the "Son" of God. Y'Shua is the firstborn "Son" of Man, the first of many brethren.

As the Father draws us, the temple made without hands is open to each of us by a spiritual impregnation. This is the good news: you don't have to die to be born again.

Each of us is a Mt. Sinai. Whether the Spirit falls upon us with the thunder and lightnings that fell on Hagar (Sinai in the wilderness) or whether the Spirit falls upon us as a dove of peace is determined by our works in the sight of HaShem.

Well, I've typed a page full in my first go here. I'll leave it at that.

Enjoyed your posts.

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So let me ask you and your message of love. Before Jesus Christ returns to this Earth, WHAT MUST HAPPEN?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19895021


Hope this will answer your question. He will return through His disciples first, in a time of great distress as never being seen before on earth.

The following is a prophesy taken from a book called "The Advent of
Christ" By Jacob Lorber (1800-1864) and Gottfried Mayerhofer (1807-1877)

On the occasion of My Second Coming, I shall not again be born as a
child somewhere of a women, for My body remains transfigured as do I
in eternity., and so I shall not ever again need another body like the
one I have now on earth. First I shall come invisibly in the 'clouds
of heaven which means to say: I shall first approach humanity through
true seers, wise men and newly awakened prophets. And in those days
also maidens will prophesy and young men will have clairvoyant dreams
announcing My advent. Many will listen to them and mend their ways,
but the world will call them mad fanatics and not believe them, as was
also the case with the prophets.

"Thus I will, from time to time, awaken persons to whom I will
dictate, through their heart, all that is now, during My presence here
happening and being discussed. The people in those days, almost all of
whom will be able to read and write, will be able to read and also
understand the new books. This way of spreading My teaching from the
heavens, given anew and uncontaminated, will then make it possible to
reach people all over the earth much faster and more effectively than
is possible now through messengers in My name, by word of mouth.

"When in this way My teaching will have been brought to the people of
good will and active faith, and at least one third of humanity will
know of it, then I will also, here and there, come personally and
physically visible to those who love Me most, are longing for My
return and will have a fully living faith(live a life of love). And I Myself shall form of
them communities which no power in the world will be able to resist.
For I shall be their commander-in-chief, their forever invincible
Hero, and shall judge all the dead and blind world lings. Thus I am
going to cleanse the earth from its ancient filth.

"At the time of the new seers and prophets, however, there will be
great misery and distress among the people as has never before been
the case on this earth. But for the sake of My elect this will be only
of short duration, so that they do not come to grief in their progress
towards salvation. However, in this land where I am now being
persecuted like a criminal by the Jews of the temple, from one place
to another, and which at that time will be trampled underfoot by the
darkest heathens, I shall not at first appear personally. But in the
lands of another continent which at present is inhabited by heathens,
I shall establish a new kingdom of peace, harmony, love and lasting,
living faith. There will no longer be any fear of the death of the
body among men who walk in My light and will be in constant contact
with the angels of heaven.

"The earth is Mine everywhere, and I know where My return will be most
effective for all the earth. But in those days, when people will be
able to communicate with each other from one end of the earth to the
other with lightning speed and, by making use of the spirits bound in
the fire and water, will be able to travel across the longest
stretches of the earth faster than the greatest storm and when also
ships, by means of the same forces, will cross the ocean in the
shortest time, - it will be possible to easily spread the news of My
personal return within a very short time over the entire earth, also
to Asia.

"But there remains the question: Will the news be believed by the
blind and deaf heathens of this continent? I should say: Hardly, until
it will have been cleansed through a great universal judgment!

"There is a vast land in the far west, which is on all sides
surrounded by oceans and does not anywhere connect with the old world
above water. From this land the people will first be hearing
great things and these will also appear in the west of Europe. The
result will be a bright radiating and reflecting: the lights of heaven
will meet and support each other. Out of these lights, the sun of life
will be forming which is the new, perfect Jerusalem, and in this sun I
shall return to earth. The visible heaven and this earth will
eventually pass away, but My words which I have spoken to you will not
pass!"

 Quoting: Pistis Sophia


some of this doesn't seem to fit to me. what makes this author credible?
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Absolutely agree, OP - great thread :-)

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Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

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Peace, Pistus Sophia.

You began in a very good place, and I don't know how far you've progressed: a good ways, I suspect.

Christology is difficult with Greek or English terminology.

Names are of utmost importance in the Hebrew scriptures: they're the gateway to vast subtexts of the narratives that satisfy or discourage many readers.

The Hebrew name for the Greek Ieosus is Y'Shua, which is Joshua in English; but as it happened, Ieosus became Hesu, became Jesu, became Jesus. The name of the man is not so important, as the man said that he came in his Father's name, not his own.

Y'Shua is the name of the Joshua who served Moses. Just once, however, Moses referred to Joshua as Yahushua (Jehoshua, KJV). This is very significant. Yahushua is the name of a Spirit; Y'Shua is a man's name. Literally, Yahushua means, "the Salvation of Yah."

So when Jesus/Joshua/Y'Shua said he came in his Father's name, he was saying that he came in the name of Yahushua, the Salvation of Yah; for Yahushua is the projection/son of Yah. No man has seen Yah at any time or heard his voice. The only begotten Yahushua has declared him, in that he is Yah's projection into created realms.

This is why Jesus (the man) said to people looking directly at him, "If you had seen me, you had seen the Father, also." It is also why the apostles said, of the man Y'Shua, that in him they saw the fullness of the Godhead, bodily. They understood that Yahushua was not obstructed in the man Y'Shua, who overcame the distortions of the flesh in the wilderness before he began his ministry.

This is also why Y'Shua said, "I, of myself, can do nothing: the Father does the works"; and "the words I speak are the Father's words."

A son is a projection of the father. So, also is Yahushua the only begotten son/projection of Yah, the beginning of Creation, the "Son" of God. Y'Shua is the firstborn "Son" of Man, the first of many brethren.

As the Father draws us, the temple made without hands is open to each of us by a spiritual impregnation. This is the good news: you don't have to die to be born again.

Each of us is a Mt. Sinai. Whether the Spirit falls upon us with the thunder and lightnings that fell on Hagar (Sinai in the wilderness) or whether the Spirit falls upon us as a dove of peace is determined by our works in the sight of HaShem.

Well, I've typed a page full in my first go here. I'll leave it at that.

Enjoyed your posts.

b.
 Quoting: Sequoyah


Thank you for your post.

How I explain this to people, as I am
called to used simple words, Is the
following. We all have
light and darkness within us as fallen
beings. As we live in obedience and
overcome the world through passing the
day to day tests life threw at us, we
drive out this darkness and light replace
this darkness. As God is pure light and
pure love he dwells within this light.
As Jesus was a pure being God dwelled
within him in fullness.

The sad fact is a very few over come the
world, and even less understand the fact
that the sins Jesus died for is not the
sins we commit here on earth that sins we
work off through karma.

The sin he died for, is why we are here on
this planet of sorrows the first place. If
it wasn't for His sacrifice we would of
being locked into this cycle of life and
death forever. He left us within instructions
how to earn eternal life, and that is from
the 5th dimension upward.

All God asked


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1 Corinthians 13
If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.

If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing.

If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing.
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Yes, the gospel is preached in a mystery.

HaShem opens the understandings, or he does not.

It is not for man to direct his steps. To understand that is to prepare to step aright.

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So let me ask you and your message of love. Before Jesus Christ returns to this Earth, WHAT MUST HAPPEN?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19895021


Hope this will answer your question. He will return through His disciples first, in a time of great distress as never being seen before on earth.

The following is a prophesy taken from a book called "The Advent of
Christ" By Jacob Lorber (1800-1864) and Gottfried Mayerhofer (1807-1877)

On the occasion of My Second Coming, I shall not again be born as a
child somewhere of a women, for My body remains transfigured as do I
in eternity., and so I shall not ever again need another body like the
one I have now on earth. First I shall come invisibly in the 'clouds
of heaven which means to say: I shall first approach humanity through
true seers, wise men and newly awakened prophets. And in those days
also maidens will prophesy and young men will have clairvoyant dreams
announcing My advent. Many will listen to them and mend their ways,
but the world will call them mad fanatics and not believe them, as was
also the case with the prophets.

"Thus I will, from time to time, awaken persons to whom I will
dictate, through their heart, all that is now, during My presence here
happening and being discussed. The people in those days, almost all of
whom will be able to read and write, will be able to read and also
understand the new books. This way of spreading My teaching from the
heavens, given anew and uncontaminated, will then make it possible to
reach people all over the earth much faster and more effectively than
is possible now through messengers in My name, by word of mouth.

"When in this way My teaching will have been brought to the people of
good will and active faith, and at least one third of humanity will
know of it, then I will also, here and there, come personally and
physically visible to those who love Me most, are longing for My
return and will have a fully living faith(live a life of love). And I Myself shall form of
them communities which no power in the world will be able to resist.
For I shall be their commander-in-chief, their forever invincible
Hero, and shall judge all the dead and blind world lings. Thus I am
going to cleanse the earth from its ancient filth.

"At the time of the new seers and prophets, however, there will be
great misery and distress among the people as has never before been
the case on this earth. But for the sake of My elect this will be only
of short duration, so that they do not come to grief in their progress
towards salvation. However, in this land where I am now being
persecuted like a criminal by the Jews of the temple, from one place
to another, and which at that time will be trampled underfoot by the
darkest heathens, I shall not at first appear personally. But in the
lands of another continent which at present is inhabited by heathens,
I shall establish a new kingdom of peace, harmony, love and lasting,
living faith. There will no longer be any fear of the death of the
body among men who walk in My light and will be in constant contact
with the angels of heaven.

"The earth is Mine everywhere, and I know where My return will be most
effective for all the earth. But in those days, when people will be
able to communicate with each other from one end of the earth to the
other with lightning speed and, by making use of the spirits bound in
the fire and water, will be able to travel across the longest
stretches of the earth faster than the greatest storm and when also
ships, by means of the same forces, will cross the ocean in the
shortest time, - it will be possible to easily spread the news of My
personal return within a very short time over the entire earth, also
to Asia.

"But there remains the question: Will the news be believed by the
blind and deaf heathens of this continent? I should say: Hardly, until
it will have been cleansed through a great universal judgment!

"There is a vast land in the far west, which is on all sides
surrounded by oceans and does not anywhere connect with the old world
above water. From this land the people will first be hearing
great things and these will also appear in the west of Europe. The
result will be a bright radiating and reflecting: the lights of heaven
will meet and support each other. Out of these lights, the sun of life
will be forming which is the new, perfect Jerusalem, and in this sun I
shall return to earth. The visible heaven and this earth will
eventually pass away, but My words which I have spoken to you will not
pass!"

 Quoting: Pistis Sophia


some of this doesn't seem to fit to me. what makes this author credible?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49838557


This is word for word the translated
words what Jesus spoke on earth 2000
years ago.

Most of us know by now the
bible was changed by the roman church
in the early centuries. Although there
are still amazing info left, the God
they portray in Bible is mostly not a
God of love.

The goal was to instill
fear and through fear they could and
still do control their followers. Many
Christian churches do the same through
wrong doctrine to win followers. That is
why the house is built on sand.


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1 Corinthians 13
If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.

If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing.

If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing.
:pic 16:
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Yes, the gospel is preached in a mystery.

HaShem opens the understandings, or he does not.

It is not for man to direct his steps. To understand that is to prepare to step aright.

b.
 Quoting: Sequoyah


Yes it's like we carry spiritual info locked within,
and as we climb the ladder towards the light this info is unlocked through the spirit.


1 Corinthians 13
If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.

If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing.

If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing.
:pic 16:





GLP